Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Digital Foundry Tech Review - Welcome To The Next Generation
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Props to Insomniac for delivering something that made it to PS4, but also provides a wonderful opening next-gen experience on PS5.
That can't have been easy, but the console benefits. That makes two fantastic showcases that I'm aware of at launch.
Yep. Sometimes I roll my eyes at how minor RT reflections can be, but a Spider-Man game is the perfect application for them. I didn't really realize until this video, how transformative it would be.
That can't have been easy, but the console benefits. That makes two fantastic showcases that I'm aware of at launch.
Yep. Sometimes I roll my eyes at how minor RT reflections can be, but a Spider-Man game is the perfect application for them. I didn't really realize until this video, how transformative it would be.
GymWolf
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If it's only a matter of better reflections, the 30 fps mode can fuck right off, the combat and traversal in this game screams for 60frame...
MasterCornholio
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ReBurn
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You're probably right, but it's definitely going to make the Sony first part proposition so much more enticing.
gow3isben
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Not just a launch game but one limited by previous consoles
CAB_Life
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Holy crap at the RT
Okay, that screenshot was one of the first I can recall that made me think RT might be worth it. That looks like an actual street.
Krappadizzle
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namekuseijin
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welcome to the next generation of raytraced remasters of flat old games
wait for GTA V
wait for GTA V
BlueXImpulse
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They really should have made a dynamic resolution 60fps mode with ray tracing.
diffusionx
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I got a platinum in this game on PS4, it plays well, and the mechanics are not so complex that they cry out for more responsiveness. It is not Sekiro. On the other hand, I think it would really benefit from the better reflections, materials, puddles, etc., in large part because of its setting. Similar to Watch Dogs 3. That's just my opinion of course.
My guess is they tried, but it doesn't work unless "dynamic resolution" means getting way down to One S levels.
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eyesabitdull
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On that note, I just finished episode 2 of Mandalorian Season 2.
Off topic, I know, but goddammit was I annoyed
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BlueXImpulse
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It should be able to dip as low as 1080p and be fine.
GymWolf
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You don't need complex machanics to enjoy 60 fps in a fast paced combat system (or in any combat system really)
And let's be honest, sekiro is kinda of a one trick pony with his gameplay, it's basically parry 95% of the time.
Spiderman has far more moves and stuff that you can chain together and it is vastly more dynamic than sekiro, you literally fly from an enemy to another if you are skilled enough.
I don't need better reflections that i'm gonna notice every once in a while compared to something that you feel every time you move the camera or your character.
Different tastes i guess.
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Krappadizzle
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I get your lack of enthusiasm, I share it to a small degree, but I won't pretend that ray/path-tracing can't substantially impove the look of many games.
Quake 2 looks pretty goddamn stunning considering it came out over 23 years ago, which I wager is older than most people on this forum considering how some act.
Hell, without even official support, GTAV's fake ass raytracing mods look incredible on PC.
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Krappadizzle
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Yeah, because then you'd have to have proof. Alex is clearly a PC-centric focused guy. How you try and label him otherwise makes no damn difference unless you have a SHRED OF EVIDENCE to the contrary. As it stands, I imagine you'll just say your bullshit and then go hide somewhere.
Just seeing this is giving me a bit of vertigo.
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DeepEnigma
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On that note, I just finished episode 2 of Mandalorian Season 2.
Am I the only one annoyed by baby Yoda in that episode?
Off topic, I know, but goddammit Child stop it
Trogdor1123
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This makes me really really want a new infamous....
timmyp53
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A man of taste I see.
manfestival
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They are shills. Shilling for the Iranian government and world destabilization through video game reviews and analysis.Where are all the DF it's a MS chill posts?
Trogdor1123
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Love those games.
This review has also sold me on ray tracing. I've posted it was a "waste" in the past... I just didn't know...
eyesabitdull
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I dont think anything I said was spoilerish?
Apologies if so, allow me to edit that post.
Behold! Glorious 30fps!
Grinchy
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This shit is looking so good with the reflections.
The 60fps mode seems really nice too, but the RT really makes it a tough choice. I'm usually all about framerate, but that's usually if it's just about resolution decreasing. Decreasing what makes this stand out (raytraced relfections) is a different story.
The 60fps mode seems really nice too, but the RT really makes it a tough choice. I'm usually all about framerate, but that's usually if it's just about resolution decreasing. Decreasing what makes this stand out (raytraced relfections) is a different story.
Low Moral Fibre
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It really didn't look much improved until they show the side by side footage and you can see there really is a huge step up. My memory was definitely being overly generous to the PS4 game.
Raytracing seems to be a sensible compromise here - while on paper a PS5 can never match a powerful PC for raytracing performance the clever use of it here really brings the city to life.
Raytracing seems to be a sensible compromise here - while on paper a PS5 can never match a powerful PC for raytracing performance the clever use of it here really brings the city to life.
Krisprolls
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For the last time, it' s not "DF is shills"
- John (DarkX) is mostly a PS fan
- Alex (dictator) is mostly a Xbox and PC fan
- Richard Leadbetter is mostly a Xbox fan too iirc.
There's no "DF", people just have different tastes and it's fine unless you're a hardcore fanboy trying to pass biased videos as truths.
Tripolygon
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Yup impressive showcase for AMD raytracing capabilities on the first try on upper mid range hardware. Yes it fidelity mode for me.
Md Ray
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The lighting and the scene due to snow here kinda reminds me of the Division before it got downgraded to hell. Games are only going to look better than this.Holy crap at the RT
Krappadizzle
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Just seeing this is giving me a bit of vertigo.
It's amazing how much the reflections complete the scene, add realism to it, and yeah, make it actually kind of kick in a fear of heights, lol.
Md Ray
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Pretty sure the image quality will downsample to your 1080p set. So the image will be internally rendering at native 4K (in the case of 30fps mode) and the resulting image quality, even on a 1080p display, will look very sharp and pristine. Sharper than native 1080p render.
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Tripolygon
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Easiest decision I ever made. Screw 60fps. Lol
Just look at how far off into the distance they are tracing rays. This is fucking incredible.
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-Arcadia-
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I feel like we underestimate how much work these alternate performance modes are, specifically to quality test, but this would be an awesome option for a lot of games.
Krappadizzle
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I think that poster is implying that he'd prefer to play with all the sweet RT stuff at 1080p/60fps than 4k/30fps. Which, tbh, seems like a fair perspective.
Md Ray
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Ah, right. I missed the 60fps part.
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Watching this now. Man this looks impressive!
Krappadizzle
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I can't wait to see the photo thread when more people start getting their hands on the PS5/XSX. Gonna be some great shots I bet.
I have no doubt you're absolutely right. Really not a big deal, but if it were somehow available, I would love the option.
RoadHazard
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Oh man, choosing between fidelity and performance is gonna be hard with this one. The ray tracing looks pretty amazing in this game, but the 60fps fluidity is also sooo nice.