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[hariseldon]

Almost every country will have a complete lockdown. There is simply no alternative. The sooner this happens, the better. Early lockdowns can and will massively limit the spread and lead to declining case numbers. If you live in a country that is on the verge of a complete lockout, you should be happy because it is the most effective tool we have.

There are arguments both ways - like all serious matters there is no magic bullet solution (and I think that's the thing that freaks people out most with this in an age where there's always an app for that). Locking down travel in and out of the country is useful for instance if your country isn't infected and neighbouring countries are, but if the level is equal then it's not likely to be hugely useful. Locking things down internally is also of mixed benefit - yes you may reduce the impact of large crowds, people being at work, etc, but this isn't just about biology, it's also about human behaviour which is a tricky beast to predict, and one can reasonably assume unintended consequences would follow from any action, especially in relatively free societies that just can't do what China did. Grandparents getting sick looking after kids, NHS workers unable to go to work because they can't find anyone to look after their kids, people congregating in pubs instead of football stadiums to watch matches, etc.

I'm inclined to agree with the view that most of us are going to get it, whatever measures we take, and that herd immunity would be useful, especially as it will prepare us better for the next big pandemic (and yes in an interconnected global age they will happen more frequently unless we significantly row back on that). In many ways the best plan is the one that sees your country come out the other side stronger relative to other countries than it went in. For my money, Boris is therefore taking the right approach.

 

[AV]

Needed just a few more qualifiers for me to really take you seriously

She actually heard it from her dog.

 

[Nicktendo_]

My takeaway from this situation on day #whatever is that the West needs to get the fuck out of China. Fuck those Commie scumbags. More self-reliance, more transparency, more co-operation with capitalist nations and no more dealing with backward, crooked regimes going forward.

Much of this could have been avoided had they been open from the start. But no, they had to protect their dear leader and those in power. Disgusting how those that were speaking out were handled.

Pack all that shit up and bring it home. We’re gonna need the work once this is all said and done.

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[M. Crassus]

I wonder, so is Alex Jones one of the good guys now? Like, did the cops bust him on false charges just to tarnish his name at this time of controversy over where and how this started. Otherwise, Alex Jones is actually doing well on this issue so far.

I mean, there is solid evidence, at least to this Gaffer, that it was a bioweapon sponsored by Bill Gates. If required I will not post anymore in this thread with my bizarre opinions lol

You just said it was a nothingburger on this very page. So which is it?

 

[The Scrivener]

Czechia:

“We are also banning theatre, music, film and other performances, sports, cultural, religious, community, dancing, traditional events and other meetings.”

NO FUN ALLOWED

 

[Smiles and Cries]

He called Dr. Campbell 'the voice of calm'

 

[mcz117chief]

Czechia:

“We are also banning theatre, music, film and other performances, sports, cultural, religious, community, dancing, traditional events and other meetings.”

NO FUN ALLOWED

Only if there are over 30 people in attendance, so you can still invite people over for some fun time

 

[TheKillerStove]

Facebook has my dad convinced this is a bunch of hysteria and that it'll kill less people over all than the flu does in a year. I'm not super worried since he's only in his early 50s, but I'm sure plenty older than him are going to end up in the hospital with the same cavalier attitude.

 

[The Scrivener]

You just said it was a nothingburger on this very page. So which is it?

Well, the MSM won't give any reference to Alex Jones's theories. The EU NWO are seeking to get one up on our speech and thoughts, see Macron's weaselly comments yesterday. And of course the illuminati won't come out and say they want global depopulisation.

So it's a bit of both. It's a nothingburger for the regular man who is told what to do by social media, and it's all go for the NWO. May I suggest tuning into Jones's nightly live reports?

 

[MafiaMurderBag]

I think the UK government is making a grave mistake by not reacting to this with seriousness and enforcing a lock down.

People here are like sheep & won't take their gut instincts into consideration. My company has the facility to let people work from home, But they're not enforcing it like other countries are just because the government hasn't officially said so, therefore we're safe. Everyone here is treating this like a joke, There's an ignorance that only old people will suffer from this & waiting on official permission from the government is like waiting for permission to eat your food after saying grace or something.

I'm going to HR to tell them I don't feel safe and I want to work from home. I'll keep you updated on if they laugh at me or actually become enlightened & grant me my wish.

All it takes is 1 carrier to enter my office over 200 people and then it's just downhill from there, And as long as I'm here, I'm playing that health lottery.

 

[AV]

Facebook has my dad convinced this is a bunch of hysteria and that it'll kill less people over all than the flu does in a year. I'm not super worried since he's only in his early 50s, but I'm sure plenty older than him are going to end up in the hospital with the same cavalier attitude.

I have this problem with my stepdad and father-in-law. They'll tell you that everything the media says is a lie, but they'll believe literally anything they read on Facebook because it's not the BBC.

 

[EviLore]

He called Dr. Campbell 'the voice of calm'

"3-6 months or more" of total societal transformation toward extreme social distancing and other containment measures. Get yourselves ready, friends.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Spain just updated with 633 new cases

Just 6AM on Friday here for me

 

[betrayal]

Germany has further intensified the fight against the virus. We will win.

 

[GAMETA]

My takeaway from this situation on day #whatever is that the West needs to get the fuck out of China. Fuck those Commie scumbags. More self-reliance, more transparency, more co-operation with capitalist nations and no more dealing with backward, crooked regimes going forward.

Much of this could have been avoided had they been open from the start. But no, they had to protect their dear leader and those in power. Disgusting how those that were speaking out were handled.

Pack all that shit up and bring it home. We’re gonna need the work once this is all said and done.

Good luck finding Americans and Europeans willing to work for barely nothing. China is the cheap work provider of the world.

Even Latin America now is on your payrolls. I live in Brazil and work with 3D modeling and graphic design... most of my income comes from the US, Canada and Europe, Lots of companies are not willing to pay what the 1st world professionals charge, so they come to us, good work for a third of the price (and we're still making 2 to 3 times more than our local market pays).

 

[M. Crassus]

Well, the MSM won't give any reference to Alex Jones's theories. The EU NWO are seeking to get one up on our speech and thoughts, see Macron's weaselly comments yesterday. And of course the illuminati won't come out and say they want global depopulisation.

So it's a bit of both. It's a nothingburger for the regular man who is told what to do by social media, and it's all go for the NWO. May I suggest tuning into Jones's nightly live reports?

And for the purpose of depopulisation they use a bioweapon that only kills a small percentage of the elderly? Makes total sense.

 

[AV]

Just do this to the virus and it won't come near you. Problem solved.

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Germany has further intensified the fight against the virus. We will win.

USA brings the pot roast

 

[Smiles and Cries]

"3-6 months or more" of total societal transformation toward extreme social distancing and other containment measures. Get yourselves ready, friends.

We will need more Amazon drone deliveries

 

[The Scrivener]

And for the purpose of depopulisation they use a bioweapon that only kills a small percentage of the elderly? Makes total sense.

They failed with 911 because of too much evidence. They need something invisible and uncontrollable, such as suicide bombings and viruses. I'm listening to The History of Rome podcast right now, and they conspired to kill everyone all the time, did they not.

There's nothing wrong with a good conspiracy theory. They provide a fun release from the stresses of modern life, and one can still be a man of science and a religious believer, and still think Alex Jones might not always be wrong.

Anyway, I like my Gaf account, I don't want to risk losing it by talking about Alex Jones. I honestly think the British are proceeding correctly, we'll see, I'm not saying Jones is right.

 

[betrayal]

"3-6 months or more" of total societal transformation toward extreme social distancing and other containment measures. Get yourselves ready, friends.

People will be amazed at how quickly the new restricted behaviour will become an accepted part of everyday normal behaviour.

 

[M. Crassus]

They failed with 911 because of too much evidence. They need something invisible and uncontrollable, such as suicide bombings and viruses. I'm listening to the history of Rome podcast right now, and they conspired to kill everyone all the time, did they not.

There's nothing wrong with a good conspiracy theory. They provide a fun release from the stresses of modern life, and one can still be a man of science and a religious believer, and still think Alex Jones might not always be wrong.

Anyway, I like my Gaf account, I don't want to risk losing it by talking about Alex Jones. I honestly think the British are proceeding correctly, we'll see, I'm not saying Jones is right.

I doubt you'll get banned for discussing conspiracy theories. It just doesn't make sense though, as killing off a small percentage of elderly will do nothing to halt overpopulation.

 

[Nicktendo_]

Good luck finding Americans and Europeans willing to work for barely nothing. China is the cheap work provider of the world.

Even Latin America now is on your payrolls. I live in Brazil and work with 3D modeling and graphic design... most of my income comes from the US, Canada and Europe, Lots of companies are not willing to pay what the 1st world professionals charge, so they come to us, good work for a third of the price (and we're still making 2 to 3 times more than our local market pays).

Did I say it would be easy?

We have to find a way. The world is imbalanced. Markets vary wildly across the globe, but we should at least be in a place that plays by the rules of market economics and keep the important stuff closer to home. The fact that 96% of the US's antibiotics are made in China should be an outrage.

I live in one of the poorest nations in Europe and we have the same situation with IT based work. Much cheaper here than in the West and the specialists are just as qualified with excellent English. They work for less than half the salary of a U.K. based employee.

Like I said, it won't be an easy task, but it has to start changing. Countries that play by the rules and are open should be prioritised.

 

[TheSadRanger]

"3-6 months or more" of total societal transformation toward extreme social distancing and other containment measures. Get yourselves ready, friends.

This is the entire fucking problem and why people should be raising questions when the United States has been through fucking Typhoid, Yellow Fever, and TB.

Yet this virus has shown none of the long term effects as of yet or near the mortality rate.

 

[ROMhack]

I think the UK government is making a grave mistake by not reacting to this with seriousness and enforcing a lock down.

People here are like sheep & won't take their gut instincts into consideration. My company has the facility to let people work from home, But they're not enforcing it like other countries are just because the government hasn't officially said so, therefore we're safe. Everyone here is treating this like a joke, There's an ignorance that only old people will suffer from this & waiting on official permission from the government is like waiting for permission to eat your food after saying grace or something.

I'm going to HR to tell them I don't feel safe and I want to work from home. I'll keep you updated on if they laugh at me or actually become enlightened & grant me my wish.

All it takes is 1 carrier to enter my office over 200 people and then it's just downhill from there, And as long as I'm here, I'm playing that health lottery.

It depends on the workplace. I have mates working in digital companies (e.g. startups) and they've been told to all stay at home since the beginning of the week. If the sheep mentality exists it comes from older work-forces that refuse to change — look at BT who are still being told to go to work despite their CEO testing positive.

I personally could do my job at home every day as I work in a team of one and my manager is in another city but I'm not still being asked to come in. Last time I had a cold and suggested working from home (two weeks ago, so very much in Coronavirus season) I was told I wasn't allowed and would have to forfeit a day's pay instead.

Edit: My job is digital so it's fairly mad, I think.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

here is an english link to the story

Police launch probe into man who wanted to "spread" virus

A woman has tested positive for the new coronavirus after coming into contact earlier in March with an infected man who had expressed to others that he wanted to "spread the virus," according to a central Japanese city government.

english.kyodonews.net

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Germany Ain't got shit on this banger

 

[jufonuk]

I hope after this, all the fucking anti-vaccine people shut the hell up. now they see what a Vaccine can do (if we had one) to this pandemic?

take it from shit we're fucked too, no worries

 

[TheSadRanger]

For instance, what in theory is going to happen to all of the displaced unemployed individuals after all of this?

The ultra wealthy now have a fresh supply of labor willing to do whatever it takes and we've fallen right back down into a hole.

This is all a fucking game.

 

[MafiaMurderBag]

It depends on the workplace. I have mates working in digital companies (e.g. startups) and they've been told to all stay at home since the beginning of the week. If the sheep mentality exists it comes from older work-forces that refuse to change — look at BT who are still being told to go to work despite their CEO testing positive.

I personally could do my job at home every day as I work in a team of one and my manager is in another city but I'm not still being asked to come in. Last time I had a cold and suggested working from home (two weeks ago, so very much in Coronavirus season) I was told I wasn't allowed and would have to forfeit a day's pay instead.

Edit: My job is digital so it's fairly mad, I think.

If they say I can't work from home, I'm going to tell them fuck off I ain't coming in anyway. We're going to fuck our selves if we don't listen to our gut & just follow good old fashioned rules & bureaucracy, invented by people who never took disaster scenarios into consideration when they invent protocol.

This is why so many people died in the Titanic, Because they followed instructions like sheep rather then woke up to the danger around them & took matters into their own hands. That and also a lack of preparation fuelled by arrogance.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

At times like this I do enjoy being Northern and English. No panic, no queues at the shops, no pandemonium, just people going about their business.

The government haven't enforced a lock-down here because it's Friday. Try banning every nightclub in the major cities

If there was a lock-down, there would be a throng of Corona-Virus Isolation parties! Up and down the country.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Here in Austria people are buying the fucking grocery shops empty. Fucking morons are too dumb to get that even when closures come the grocery stores are not affacts by this. Pisses me off to no end as I can't even buy my weekly ration because of that.

 

[Cunth]

here is an english link to the story

Police launch probe into man who wanted to "spread" virus

A woman has tested positive for the new coronavirus after coming into contact earlier in March with an infected man who had expressed to others that he wanted to "spread the virus," according to a central Japanese city government.

english.kyodonews.net

string this prick up by his balls

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Iran rejects Trump’s offer of coronavirus help as "hypocritical" and "repulsive"
From CNN’s Radina Gigova

Iran has rejected an apparent offer by US President Donald Trump to help the nation in the fight against coronavirus, calling it “hypocritical” and “repulsive” and accusing the US of “economic and medical terrorism.”

“Instead of hypocritical displays of compassion and repulsive bragging, you should end your economic and medical terrorism so that medicine and medical supplies can reach medical staff and the Iranian people,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi said Friday, according to state-run Press TV.

“We do not need American doctors,” Mousavi said on Friday, adding that Iran has “the best, bravest and most component medical staff in the world.”

Iran rejects Trump’s offer of coronavirus help as "hypocritical" and "repulsive"

The novel coronavirus pandemic continues to spread, with more than 125,000 cases and 4,600 deaths worldwide.

www.cnn.com

Good, we can't afford to give them to you anyway

London tube driver tests positive for coronavirus

A London Underground driver has tested positive for coronavirus, Transport for London has confirmed.

A TfL spokesperson said: “A train driver on the Jubilee line has tested positive for COVID-19. They are receiving support from health services and are self-isolating.

"Their duties mean they were not working in a customer facing area. The safety of our staff and customers is our top priority and we are taking all necessary precautions.

"The areas where the driver worked are being cleaned, including the depot and the trains, in line with guidance from Public Health England with whom we are working closely.”

This is the second confirmed case among TFL workers, after an office worker tested positive on Monday.

London tube driver tests positive for coronavirus

The novel coronavirus pandemic continues to spread, with more than 125,000 cases and 4,600 deaths worldwide.

www.cnn.com

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Wife went shopping yesterday and mentioned it was the first time she noticed shelves cleaned out since the coronavirus news broke a few months ago. Food and basics were plentiful but toilet-paper and hand sanitizer were scarce lol

My company is already prepping for departments to work from home and/or send in a skeleton crew in shifts to do office-only tasks. Michigan is already inching toward lockdown / work-from-home:



I look forward to getting to know all of you a lot better as we enjoy lockdown together via the internet.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

here is an english link to the story

Police launch probe into man who wanted to "spread" virus

A woman has tested positive for the new coronavirus after coming into contact earlier in March with an infected man who had expressed to others that he wanted to "spread the virus," according to a central Japanese city government.

english.kyodonews.net

Is this illegal?

Say I had Covid, would I be able to sell my services to infect people that others don't like? Or pay a visit to a workplace to shut it down so that the workers don't have to go to work?

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Aaaaaand K-12 schools cancelled classes statewide starting March 16th (Monday) until April 5th, governor's orders.

 

[AV]

At times like this I do enjoy being Northern and English. No panic, no queues at the shops, no pandemonium, just people going about their business.

This was my local Asda the other day:

And Aldi on the same day:

Aldi shoppers confirmed for big brains.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Is this illegal?

Say I had Covid, would I be able to sell my services to infect people that others don't like? Or pay a visit to a workplace to shut it down so that the workers don't have to go to work?

Pretty sure it would be seen as illegal if they could prove you were doing it with that intent.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

This was my local Asda the other day:

And Aldi on the same day:

Aldi shoppers confirmed for big brains.

Asda looks like that anyway. Lazy cunts never restock their shelves.

Which Asda is it?

 

[Cunth]

This was my local Asda the other day:

And Aldi on the same day:

Aldi shoppers confirmed for big brains.

thats like a dream for australians right now

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

thats like a dream for australians right now

A wet, but absorbant dream.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Aaaaaand K-12 schools cancelled classes statewide starting March 16th (Monday) until April 5th, governor's orders.

by this time next week my only worry will be how to kick out ugly villagers off my Island


If Tom Nook sells Toilet Paper there will be no messy rush.

 

[AV]

Asda looks like that anyway. Lazy cunts never restock their shelves.

Which Asda is it?

One in Leeds.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Wife went shopping yesterday and mentioned it was the first time she noticed shelves cleaned out since the coronavirus news broke a few months ago. Food and basics were plentiful but toilet-paper and hand sanitizer were scarce lol

My company is already prepping for departments to work from home and/or send in a skeleton crew in shifts to do office-only tasks. Michigan is already inching toward lockdown / work-from-home:



I look forward to getting to know all of you a lot better as we enjoy lockdown together via the internet.

Is that Caitlyin Jenner in the vid?

 

[Slings and Arrows]

One in Leeds.

And I would have gotten away with it, If I wasn't distracted by those meddling, sexy kids!

Dewsbury and Morley Asda's are always half-stocked.

 

[Mihos]

"3-6 months or more" of total societal transformation toward extreme social distancing and other containment measures. Get yourselves ready, friends.

I have been preparing my whole life for extreme social distancing

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Is that Caitlyin Jenner in the vid?

boo booo boooooo my guy