Petey-o
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What are some examples?
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Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Our beaches opened as well mang.
DeSo
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Fox News (foxnews.com) - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
mediabiasfactcheck.com
CNN - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording
mediabiasfactcheck.com
You all need to get better sources.
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cryptoadam
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Fox News (foxnews.com) - Bias and Credibility
QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
CNN - Bias and Credibility
LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording
You all need to get better sources.
Like the BBC lol.
But you are right CNN is flaming garbage.
Everyone knows FOX is right leaning.
xellos2099alpha
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probably because they are not gaint population center like Chicago and New York
DeSo
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I can post BBC's fact rating if you'd like
cryptoadam
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I dont need a fact rating to know BBC has its own biases.
All news is biased and agenda drivin. Just read multiple sources and independent media abd believe very little of it.
pel1300
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Neither are their neighbors.
Insane Metal
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DrAspirino
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Guys, please, take care of yourselves and keep social distancing. This disease is no joke. Today in the morning a very dear uncle of mine passed away from covid-19.
Please, if authorities say you have to keep social distancing and every single measure, you have to do so.
Please, if authorities say you have to keep social distancing and every single measure, you have to do so.
Petey-o
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Fox is flaming garbage as well.
cryptoadam
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FOX is biased but at least they have opposing views and are up front about their conservative bias.
cryptoadam
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But but protest had nothing to do with it.
I wont say that young people going to bars to drink and get laid didnt play a part too but lets not be daft and pretend weeks of riots are not pushing things. At least if something happens at a bar or salon you shut it down. No one would dare suggest that these riots stop though.
Tesseract
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not bad, looking at logs over previous months
let's see where we are by summer's end
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cryptoadam
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Smiles and Cries
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milestone reached
plenty of hours left in the day so numbers will continue to climb for Brazil
www.worldometers.info
here are States and Florida carrying the weight
plenty of hours left in the day so numbers will continue to climb for Brazil
Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,949,997 Cases and 2,852,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info
here are States and Florida carrying the weight
Joe T.
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Reuters is as bad as the rest. An example I'll throw behind a spoiler since we're deviating from the virus.
Trump blames 'both sides' for Virginia violence as many Republicans balk
U.S. President Donald Trump inflamed tension after a deadly rally by white nationalists in Virginia by insisting that counter protesters were also to blame, drawing condemnation from some Republican leaders and praise from white supremacists.
www.reuters.com
Except he did condemn them and Reuters intentionally omitted that in order to help smear Trump with a lie. Reuters has no problem joining the rags that deceive us every day. Their content needs to be viewed with as much skepticism as other major sources.
More on topic, Reuters printed this beauty in April:
Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force
On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive...
www.reuters.com
To quote Sharyl Attkisson:
No, Trump did not put a Labradoodle breeder in charge of COVID-19 response
WASHINGTON — No, the Trump administration did not put a professional dog breeder from Dallas in charge of COVID-19 response. Yes, the chief of staff at the...
www.dallasnews.com
The anti-Trump news is a very real problem because it's intentionally deceiving people all over the world with stories that should never be given the green light to get published. When they do get published by a source like Reuters they get picked up by a long list of other major sources and they "flood the zone" giving the casual observer the impression that these sources can't all be wrong - except they are. Often. If you're exercising any degree of skepticism towards the news, and absolutely everyone should, then you know today's outlets have lost a great deal of credibility.
A random person with access to the internet shouldn't be able to debunk press stories from "respectable" sources in under a minute.
Smiles and Cries
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I think I have learned not to trust any news media.
I watch enough Fuck China News because it entertains me to see how one sided the reports are but to be fair, them vs official news coming out of China balances out.
I can't name one news network that does not lean into one side or has no agenda. But US Mainstream News is alarmingly bad, might as well choose a youtuber that matches your way of thinking and watch that as news.
I don't think these people care that they can easily be debunked
Rock And Roll
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Reuters is as bad as the rest. An example I'll throw behind a spoiler since we're deviating from the virus.
Trump blames 'both sides' for Virginia violence as many Republicans balk
U.S. President Donald Trump inflamed tension after a deadly rally by white nationalists in Virginia by insisting that counter protesters were also to blame, drawing condemnation from some Republican leaders and praise from white supremacists.
Except he did condemn them and Reuters intentionally omitted that in order to help smear Trump with a lie. Reuters has no problem joining the rags that deceive us every day. Their content needs to be viewed with as much skepticism as other major sources.
More on topic, Reuters printed this beauty in April:
Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force
On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive...
To quote Sharyl Attkisson:
No, Trump did not put a Labradoodle breeder in charge of COVID-19 response
WASHINGTON — No, the Trump administration did not put a professional dog breeder from Dallas in charge of COVID-19 response. Yes, the chief of staff at the...www.dallasnews.com
The anti-Trump news is a very real problem because it's intentionally deceiving people all over the world with stories that should never be given the green light to get published. When they do get published by a source like Reuters they get picked up by a long list of other major sources and they "flood the zone" giving the casual observer the impression that these sources can't all be wrong - except they are. Often. If you're exercising any degree of skepticism towards the news, and absolutely everyone should, then you know today's outlets have lost a great deal of credibility.
A random person with access to the internet shouldn't be able to debunk press stories from "respectable" sources in under a minute.
Seems like just a couple months ago we celebrated hitting that 1 million milestone. Great to have you back
Rock And Roll
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milestone reached
plenty of hours left in the day so numbers will continue to climb for Brazil
Coronavirus Update (Live): 130,949,997 Cases and 2,852,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
here are States and Florida carrying the weight
Seems like just a couple of months ago we celebrated 1 million cases. Great to have you back here with the solid updates
Smiles and Cries
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I would not say celebrate but I get what you mean.
This is still stressful to follow but it won't just go away by trying to ignore it so I am following updates again, well until I burn out again and need to take a break
listening to someone that you agree with already is the single worst way to understand what is going on.
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hariseldon
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Look for the thread Evolution of the woke BBC (I’m on my phone so linking is a pain in the arse). I did some comparisons over time to show how the BBC went from showing lots of factual news on the news homepage, lots of stories to give a good solid overview, to a small number of stories and a lot of opinions with a fucktonne of “this is what you should think”.
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hariseldon
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Fox is right wing and makes no secret of it. The BBC pretends to be impartial while being a woke far left dumpster fire. The dishonesty is worse as people don’t know to correct for the bias.
Smiles and Cries
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agreed
My saying you may as well follow a youtuber that thinks like you, is called the easy way, most people live in that type of bubble, that is why the mainstream media gets away with such huge lies, because no one is going to challenge them on it because they love the bubble. It is hard to try to understand the other side of things for most people.
I would agree with you it would be best if you could open your mind to many different perspectives.
But I can't really agree that you'll always learn much if the person you listening to is just focused on propaganda. But if you can find someone who has a different view point and they are honestly living that and expressing that yeah you can learn and understand that perspective because that voice would come accross as natural.
It takes courage and work to step outside your bubble most people can't do it. Most people are so deep into their beliefs that it becomes their identity. You love being that person you love feeling that your ways are the right ways. It takes a lot of work to look outside of that shit you are in and see what harms you might be taking part in just because your side is right and the other side is so wrong. Yeah the bubble is easy and people shouting at you from the other side makes it easy to justify staying in that bubble.
I no longer even feel like I belong to a political party anymore, most of that change happened when I returned to NeoGAF and reading a lot of posts from the other side. I get where they are coming from.
Still I have to remain mindful that I am not so woke, and could just be resentful of some shit and could still have many blindspots.
it takes work
Insane Metal
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10 million holy shit
Smiles and Cries
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to be fair if China came out and said their real numbers are 10 million I would not blink an eye at this point, I would believe it.
Still for some reason seeing it as a worldwide number is still impressive just because it is amazing they are willing to test that much. In another 6 months I am not sure if this will still feel impressive.
Smiles and Cries
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Brazil bump
cryptoadam
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Its really funny.
I barely see anyone wearing a mask and no one bothers them. And i live in MAGA country in Canada with all our french Trump lovers....NOT.
I barely see anyone wearing a mask and no one bothers them. And i live in MAGA country in Canada with all our french Trump lovers....NOT.
Petey-o
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Okay, so they're upfront about being garbage.
edit: Wtf America, why the fuck are people so against wearing a goddamn mask. I swear so many of you people are brainwashed.
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darkinstinct
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Why? Because ma right to die as I see fit of course. Those fuckheads don't realize that they aren't supposed to wear masks to protect themselves, but to protect others. The result:
US is now trending towards 500.000 deaths by corona (if a second lockdown happens NOW) by end of the year. But it's just a flu, bro. Just a flu. Annual actual flu deaths in the US: 25.000 to 50.000. Flu deaths in the US during the 1918 Spanish flu (the thing that killed 50 million people worldwide): 675.000.
And we haven't even begun to understand the longtime consequences of Covid-19. Could kill you within three years even if you only had mild symptoms, cause it's attacking EVERY SINGLE PART of the body. We have had people with the virus in their brain stem. Plus immunity through antibodies seems to be temporary for around three months. And then you can get it again. Great stuff. There's a pretty good chance that masks will be required for the rest of our lives. The only thing that keeps it in check is distance. That's why less dense states and countries are slower to be infected (but it will eventually reach everyone nevertheless). Cold doesn't kill it, heat doesn't kill it. Worldwide numbers are accelerating and could reach close to a billion infected by end of year.
Grinchy
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I don't really understand how a country like India, with 1.4B people all crammed together like sardines, with a lot of very poor areas, can have only 16,000 deaths. Russia has only 9,000 deaths? It looks like they've tested really hard (128K per million population), so did they just find everyone who had it before it could spread?
Are some countries just flat out lying about their numbers, or did we pump ours up?
Are some countries just flat out lying about their numbers, or did we pump ours up?
NoviDon
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Hopefully it mutates into a weaker strand like the Spanish flu eventually. That could take months or years though. We definitely need that to happen to, because with all the anti vaxers and no mask warriors it's not gonna just end with a cure.Why? Because ma right to die as I see fit of course. Those fuckheads don't realize that they aren't supposed to wear masks to protect themselves, but to protect others. The result:
US is now trending towards 500.000 deaths by corona (if a second lockdown happens NOW) by end of the year. But it's just a flu, bro. Just a flu. Annual actual flu deaths in the US: 25.000 to 50.000. Flu deaths in the US during the 1918 Spanish flu (the thing that killed 50 million people worldwide): 675.000.
And we haven't even begun to understand the longtime consequences of Covid-19. Could kill you within three years even if you only had mild symptoms, cause it's attacking EVERY SINGLE PART of the body. We have had people with the virus in their brain stem. Plus immunity through antibodies seems to be temporary for around three months. And then you can get it again. Great stuff. There's a pretty good chance that masks will be required for the rest of our lives. The only thing that keeps it in check is distance. That's why less dense states and countries are slower to be infected (but it will eventually reach everyone nevertheless). Cold doesn't kill it, heat doesn't kill it. Worldwide numbers are accelerating and could reach close to a billion infected by end of year.
ManaByte
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We know for a fact the US deaths were pumped up because they were counting things like heart attacks as COVID deaths. There are lawsuits going on about that now.
cryptoadam
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Too many fatties and killing old people
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SLoWMoTIoN
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But that's wrong. They know, they just don't care.
DrAspirino
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The thing is that covid-19 actually covers a lot of death causes. For example, a person could effectively die of a heart attack due to covid-19, because the virus, among the classical respiratory syndrome, causes blood clots and renal failure.
Receptors for SARS-CoV-2 Present in Wide Variety of Human Cells
Analyses from single-cell sequencing datasets support the idea that COVID-19 is not just a respiratory disease but an illness that can affect multiple organs.
www.the-scientist.com
So yes, if a person has diabetes, renal disease, respiratory problems, cardiac problems, obesity, hypertension and dislipidemia, it has high chances of dying from the exacerbation of those previous comorbidities..
Since the USA has one of the highest indexes of obesity and cardiovascular diseases in the world, its no surprise that the death toll there is so high.
cryptoadam
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Allright guys, looks like the spike isn't caused by riots, protests, hair cuts, or going to the beach. Here is the real culprit
prag16
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Why? Because ma right to die as I see fit of course. Those fuckheads don't realize that they aren't supposed to wear masks to protect themselves, but to protect others. The result:
US is now trending towards 500.000 deaths by corona (if a second lockdown happens NOW) by end of the year. But it's just a flu, bro. Just a flu. Annual actual flu deaths in the US: 25.000 to 50.000. Flu deaths in the US during the 1918 Spanish flu (the thing that killed 50 million people worldwide): 675.000.
And we haven't even begun to understand the longtime consequences of Covid-19. Could kill you within three years even if you only had mild symptoms, cause it's attacking EVERY SINGLE PART of the body. We have had people with the virus in their brain stem. Plus immunity through antibodies seems to be temporary for around three months. And then you can get it again. Great stuff. There's a pretty good chance that masks will be required for the rest of our lives. The only thing that keeps it in check is distance. That's why less dense states and countries are slower to be infected (but it will eventually reach everyone nevertheless). Cold doesn't kill it, heat doesn't kill it. Worldwide numbers are accelerating and could reach close to a billion infected by end of year.
Is this post satire? You realize you posted a "cases" graph, not a "deaths" graph, right? Deaths are still trending down and have been for months. 500k by the end of the year? What are you smoking? Masks for the rest of our lives? Lol fuck off.
As soon as death rates weren't scary enough as they have been in decline for a while, media pivoted to using cases as their fearmongering centerpiece. Yet the people who are wise to the dishonesty going on are the ones who are brainwashed, sure. Tell yourself that.
This "long term consequence" stuff has actually fallen mostly out of the media fearmongering rotation, probably because it's so anecdotal and not proven to be widespread at all. Same with this "kawasaki-like" nonsense in kids they tried (mostly unsuccessfully) to link with COVID.
You are all useful idiots and are being played. The virus is real, but it is being taken advantage of by bad actors. Maybe it's just to hurt Trump. Maybe Bill Gates is trying to play God. Maybe something else is going on. But you even have the CDC estimating an infection fatality rate of 0.26% which is only marginally higher than the seasonal flu, and we're ready to totally destroy our way of life for this. They scared the shit out of everybody to the point that almost everybody bought in over such a short period of time.
I hadn't seen this until today, but this scientist thinks the lockdown has already caused an obscene number of deaths. I'm willing to go with Hanlon's Razor here and will not assume this was done on purpose, but as I said, nefarious interests are definitely taking advantage.
All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response | Request PDF
Request PDF | All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response | The latest data of all-cause mortality by week does not show a winter-burden mortality that is statistically larger than for past winters. There... | Find, read and cite...
www.researchgate.net
cryptoadam
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Shit I never knew Italy was part of the kill seniors program.
www.trtworld.com
Maybe thats where Cuomo got the idea. Isn't he Italian?
The 'massacre' of Italy's elderly nursing home residents
Covid-19 patients in Italy's virus epicentre of Lombardy were transferred to nursing homes by an official resolution with catastrophic consequences.
www.trtworld.com
Maybe thats where Cuomo got the idea. Isn't he Italian?
prag16
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If I recall correctly Italy was one of many places where the median age of death was firmly above the overall life expectancy. Wouldn't surprise me.Shit I never knew Italy was part of the kill seniors program.
The 'massacre' of Italy's elderly nursing home residents
Covid-19 patients in Italy's virus epicentre of Lombardy were transferred to nursing homes by an official resolution with catastrophic consequences.
Maybe thats where Cuomo got the idea. Isn't he Italian?
Smiles and Cries
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yo this is seriously a left and right thing? Politics go that deep? that is not very fair did the Republicans just allow the Dems to double dare them into not wearing masks and getting sick over stupid shit?
Yo that is some wild shit
All scientists and politicians in my (sane European) country have warned about protests...
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Smiles and Cries
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stop being yolo friends.
i hate wearing mask and they are expensive but...
that gives someone a lot of reason to be pissed if you are wearing a mask and someone walks into your space not wearing one
I get the reaction, 70% is a big probability
MisterFalcon
Member
You do realize that 0.26% of the American population is 858 thousands deaths ?
I hadn't seen this until today, but this scientist thinks the lockdown has already caused an obscene number of deaths. I'm willing to go with Hanlon's Razor here and will not assume this was done on purpose, but as I said, nefarious interests are definitely taking advantage.
All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response | Request PDF
Request PDF | All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response | The latest data of all-cause mortality by week does not show a winter-burden mortality that is statistically larger than for past winters. There... | Find, read and cite...
Nothing says 'scientist' quite like graphs with no values on the axis that look like it's drawn by a six year old.
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