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So....I just went through a fight between
and
. I didn't have the paragon to deal with the situation without pissing one of them off. So I pissed off
after I got her loyality up and her loyality went down after the fight. Will I have an option to make the person in question happy with me again later or will that person be super pissed at me for the rest of the game?
Miranda
Jack
Miranda
Solo said:
That's if you act evil and benevolent to the same person, for the same basic reason. But when people are building up both meters it's because they decide to be bad in some situations, and good in others. Depends on circumstances, characters, etc.
I was going to go for full Renegade, as I usually do in these games, but I've found myself essentially taking every dialogue choice character-by-character and side-plot-by-side-plot.
Because they're not "evil" and "benevolent", and it's not even really shades of grey. They cocked it up in ME1 by making most of the big choices very clearly good/evil, but it's pretty apparent in ME2 that Shepard is almost always intended to be a good guy; Paragon and Renegade are mostly about how you do good things, not whether you do good things. You're Renegade when you're abrasive, decisive, and unforgiving. You're Paragon when you're friendly, cautious, and willing to let things go as long as the solution is a net positive. It's entirely possible (and frankly, more realistic than "hold up-right" or "hold down-right" Shepards) to be proficient at handling different situations in either of those ways, as the situation warrants, without feeling like an inconsistent character. That's what the Paragon and Renegade meters represent. It's a big step forward for video game morality, as far as games with morality meters go.Solo said:
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
Bidding for my Terminus Armour code has now ended....
£21!
So that makes the game £5 AND BioWare still got all my money. :lol
£21!
So that makes the game £5 AND BioWare still got all my money. :lol
Meus Renaissance
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Question regarding Krogan sidequest
The mechanic has asked me to find him a Combustion mechanic. Where can I find that? Note that I've already done the Rite of Passage for Grunt
Coxswain said:
Also, Paragon in ME2 is more about doing what's morally right, while Paragon in ME1 seemed at times more about doing what's legally right. Similarly, Renegade is less about being a bad guy and more about taking shortcuts and doing whatever, as long as the ends justify the means.
Some of the Renegade choices feel more grey than they did in the first game. There's one in
Mordin
corrosivefrost
Member
Meus Renaissance said:
Mordin's loyalty question where you go take on the Weryloc clan.
corrosivefrost
Member
Zeliard said:Also, Paragon in ME2 is more about doing what's morally right, while Paragon in ME1 seemed at times more about doing what's legally right. Similarly, Renegade is less about being a bad guy and more about taking shortcuts and doing whatever, as long as the ends justify the means.
Some of the Renegade choices feel more grey than they did in the first game. There's one in's loyalty quest where you have a Renegade interruption choice that allows you to kill the leader of the group you're about to fight, before the battle actually starts. If you don't do the interruption, you end up having to fight and kill him regardless, and he's a tougher guy than the others. If you do the interruption and kill him, you get Renegade points despite the fact that you would have had to kill him anyway. It's probably considered Renegade due to the lack of "sportsmanship".Mordin
Renegade vs. Paragon is simply the age old question of "fight it out vs. talk it out.". Paragon tends to be the diplomatic, non offensive way to get things done. Renegade, as the loading screen puts it, is about being badass. The moment you're talking about is like "hey, do I keep trying to talk this guy down, or do I just say fuck it and ace his ass since it's headed to a fight. I've never not aced his ass either. He's got it coming.
ExtraKr1spy
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Meus Renaissance said:
you get along the way in mordins quest on tuchanka.
unless youve done it already and in which case you missed it
Subject Zero says doesn't want to be part of the "girls club"
I helped you move on from your past
corrosivefrost
Member
golem said:
That's a very good way to put it.
Meus Renaissance
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After Jack's loyalty mission she was
What percentage of Paragon/Renegade would I need to unlock these options? Does anyone know?
fighting with Miranda. I had to pick who to side with. I picked Miranda. I went to see Jack later on but she's not talking to me, however there are dialogue options that are greyed out.
Calavera520
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Kodiak said:
I agree, and the Zaeed model is also pretty strikingly realistic.
By the way, is there any way to hide the helmet while maintaining the benefits? There's no point to the great modeling if it's hidden behind a face mask.
this scene:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/FallenOneRaZe/1264872595218.jpg
Was worth the price of admission.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/FallenOneRaZe/1264872595218.jpg
Was worth the price of admission.
Zod the Bear
Member
Calavera520 said:
Not that I've seen, which has made the Terminus/Dragon Age armors no-gos for me. I used the targetting visor pretty much the whole game, as I was an infiltrator and it gave me a bonus while I could still see my face.
wind_steaker
Member
Wow, this arrived this morning,and I just lost 6 hours to it without noticing. Having just played through 1 I can feel and appreciate all the changes, I'm also happy my PC runs this on full settings too
Archangel was a nice surprise and that whole area with Afterlife is just wonderfully done.
Archangel was a nice surprise and that whole area with Afterlife is just wonderfully done.
Nose Master
Member
Man, I wish I had a Zaede code :< he seems amazing.
Zod the Bear
Member
hermit7 said:
I think I found about 2 of everything.
For my insanity playthrough is it easier to start a whole new character for it?
Also, anyone notice in the final scene
Also, anyone notice in the final scene
if you save the collector base the sun behind the Illusive man is red, if you destroy it it's blue representing your paragon options I guess. I don't think I'll ever save the base though.
Mr Solo Dolo
Member
Just finished the game loved every second of it.
I'm just finishing up on some achievements now, does anyone know where to get the Heavy Pistol upgrade? I need it for the upgrade 7 weapons achievement.
Also I'm at level 27 I've explored most of the map do you think there is enough side quests to get to level 30?
I'm just finishing up on some achievements now, does anyone know where to get the Heavy Pistol upgrade? I need it for the upgrade 7 weapons achievement.
Also I'm at level 27 I've explored most of the map do you think there is enough side quests to get to level 30?
I NEED SCISSORS
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YES!Lyphen said:
But i've since gotten used to that change. It still seems a bit stupid to consolidate 3 actions onto one key.
The only other changes i've made are Q for holstering weapons (because H is too far away), and E for melee.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
I had the two mixed up for the first 30 minutes. I would have swapped them, but space is much more than just run, so I left it how it is.Lyphen said:
fastford58
Member
My only complaint:
The game doesn't seem to have as much freedom as it did in regards to environments. Particularly the Citadel; I hate not being able to walk around where ever I want like in the first game.
tadcalabash
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Just finished the game and
Maybe I just got lucky, but I felt some of the decisions were relatively obvious...
Now I just need someone to come out with an indepth FAQ of all the permutations and possibilities.
everyone lived, including Kelly, Dr. Chakwas and the crew. I was kind of shocked because I'd heard from all the pre-release press how hard it would be for that to happen.
Maybe I just got lucky, but I felt some of the decisions were relatively obvious...
Legion to hack the doors, Jacob to lead the 2nd crew, Jack to hold the barrier...
Now I just need someone to come out with an indepth FAQ of all the permutations and possibilities.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
He's not. I mean, he seems like a cool character with a potentially interesting personality, and he's solid enough in combat, but he's clearly underdeveloped and feels more like cheap DLC rather than a full-fledged party member.Nose Master said:
I thought about that as well, but I've never, ever played a game that expected me to hold space for any long period of time, or so often (except Morrowind, I think. And that was use, which was switched to E).darkpaladinmfc said:
I just found it incredibly unnatural, and don't get how Bioware could be so out of touch to expect people to jump into those controls.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Pandaman said:
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Lostconfused
Member
Its not that they are obvious, its that 3 or more characters can fill each role.tadcalabash said:
More of the little things that I absolutely love about the game that shows how much more it's improved over the last one:
When I can see I can go multiple ways, and I click any of the analog sticks to see where I have to go, and when it points me in the right direction to go, I know I can go the opposite way to safely collect anything without triggering the next scene or fight - brilliant. It's these little things that I had no clue about that just surprised me about the game.
Individually placing where you want each squad member on the battlefield - I already knew this, they even wanted to put it in the first ME, but it's perfectly done here - you can even attack with the mapped power/attack with their d-pad also too - so good.
I'm enjoying this mission that I'm on right now, and Grunt's a beast - he was always one I wanted to keep on the squad, so glad that he's meeting expectations so early. But I gotta say that it's tougher to keep just the same two or three squad mates I had in mind - BioWare managed to keep me wanting to mix them up every single mission - great job on their part with that one.
When I can see I can go multiple ways, and I click any of the analog sticks to see where I have to go, and when it points me in the right direction to go, I know I can go the opposite way to safely collect anything without triggering the next scene or fight - brilliant. It's these little things that I had no clue about that just surprised me about the game.
Individually placing where you want each squad member on the battlefield - I already knew this, they even wanted to put it in the first ME, but it's perfectly done here - you can even attack with the mapped power/attack with their d-pad also too - so good.
I'm enjoying this mission that I'm on right now, and Grunt's a beast - he was always one I wanted to keep on the squad, so glad that he's meeting expectations so early. But I gotta say that it's tougher to keep just the same two or three squad mates I had in mind - BioWare managed to keep me wanting to mix them up every single mission - great job on their part with that one.
I'm now playing Infiltrator and what the hell is up with sniper rifle? It holds 10 ammo at once. :lol My biggest negative about the game. So either I can't use it, or I have to search for ammo after every battle (and in most cases, I can't even find enough to fill it up). Someone please tell me where I can find a new one that has bigger ammo capacity.
Though I'm surprised how good the standard pistol is. It's a headshot machine. So accurate.
Cloaking seems quite useless. The sniper kills in one shot anyways so the damage boost is kind of moot.
He has a badass quest though. At least if you play renegade.
Planet scanning is still better in my opinion. At least it's quick.
Though I'm surprised how good the standard pistol is. It's a headshot machine. So accurate.
Cloaking seems quite useless. The sniper kills in one shot anyways so the damage boost is kind of moot.
He has a badass quest though. At least if you play renegade.
Planet scanning is still better in my opinion. At least it's quick.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I had one particular comment about (not really story spoiler, but more of a location spoiler)...
The Citadel. I saw some people comment where they say they were disappointed in it but so far I'm not seeing it. I the Citadel is pretty awesome, a lot better than I thought given some comments of it. What were some of the criticisms exactly? It doesn't seem as open as the Citadel in ME1 but ME2 has gone for a lot more linearity overall than its predecessor.
fizzelopeguss
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Chairman Yang said:
But he loves that shitty old rifle.
I enjoyed the Mako exploration more than the scanning, definitely. I think the main thing that soured everyone on the Mako was combat since unless you were on a perfectly flat plain, you have no idea where the hell your shots are going to go. That was definitely what I hated most it.Pimpbaa said:
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Shrinnan said:
It's way too small and "compartmentalized" as someone else said. I enjoyed running around the Citadel scanning keepers, talking to people, enjoying the sights etc.
Seeing the presidium with only one room was a pretty big letdown.
Seeing the presidium with only one room was a pretty big letdown.
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