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:lol :lolChoklitReign said:
That part was awesome.
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That part was awesome.
Keyser Soze
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ChoklitReign said:
This is my favourite post on the Citadel
ChoklitReign
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*sigh* Of course I followed the damn lights, but then I opened a door next to a scion or something and it ate me. The monsters aren't very predictable for me so I don't know when I should wait and when I should run. So you're supposed to go up the stairs in Engineering and wait for the thing to pass? Just tell me what the fuck to do next so I don't have to do it over again (really, no checkpoints whatsoever?).
The other side of this is that I absolutely love how Hardcore difficulty is handled. Is this day and age pretty much every game handles difficulty by just ramping up enemy health and damage. While this is present in ME2, the difference is how they do it. Instead of simply piling a ton of HP on each enemy, they give enemies armor, shields and/or barriers. This is much preferable to fighting a bunch of bullet-sponges since each defense type has a weakness and the player has plenty of tools to exploit that weakness. Suddenly powers that strip defenses become invaluable. Powers that effect defenseless enemies are no longer the be-all end-all. Switching weapon types and ammo becomes useful. Deciding which squadmate to bring into battle is more important.Gattsu25 said:
Though Insanity is pretty much the extra enemy defenses of Hardcore + bullet-sponginess. It's pretty damn rough in the beginning for most except Soldier because they start with enough guns and ammo to sink into their enemies.
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Well I decided to just go ahead and finish it. I really reget that.
I still think it could've been handled better. There's no reason certain powers should be made pretty much useless on harder difficulties making some of the other classes far less enjoyable to play than on lower difficulties.PBalfredo said:
I think bullet sponges are always bullcrap in harder difficulties but I agree that if you're going to go with bullet sponging, then ME2's system is the way to do that.
IW are still one of the few developers that understand how harder difficulty settings should be handled.
IW is a terrible example, and is probably where Bioware got the idea of monster closets and spawn point triggers from. And all Veteran in MW/MW2 does is get you killed faster while tossing more enemies at you until you finally move on to the next area. I prefer enemies needing to be debuffed before killed.Dan Yo said:
No class is 'far less enjoyable' on any difficulty. Every class has enough tools to deal with any situation. Every class-defining ability is useful and every ability in the game has a time and place where it is either viable or needed.
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Dan Yo said:
Oh god no...
Naughty Dog (Uncharted) and Rocksteady (Batman) deserve praise. IW just make your character less good, and toss in more enemies that seem to cheat more to get shots at you (and don't forget spawning grenades at your feet too)
Dresden said:
All very true, but some classes just have more tools than others and some tools were just better thought out. Or not (Vanguard charge is horribly broken, the geth colossus proves that).
As for difficulty, yeah, IW is not a good example.
I really miss the days when each scenario had carefully thought out spawns and enemy units to maximize the situation. Instead we get silly spawn points and regenerating ammo spots.
Zalasta said:
I personally feel that it could have added something. Had they bothered to put any thought into it.
Which is fine. As long as they don't add more health to the enemies like every other game does. MW2 on veteran would've been far less enjoyable if all of a sudden, instead of one shot to the head or 1 or 2 to the body, I was now having to empty entire clips into enemies.HK-47 said:
That's just dumb, and a cheap way to increase difficulty.
It would completely screw with the system that game has where every kill is satisfying, because every enemy goes down with the perfect shot, no matter what the difficulty setting.
I remember playing Dead Space on a higher difficulty setting after playing on normal for a few minutes and figuring I'd have more fun if there were more of a challenge. Only problem was, the limbs of the enemies didn't chop off in one satisfying shot anymore. Now I had to shoot their limbs 3 or 4 times. The first 2 or 3 shots appearing to have absolutely no effect until the last shot magically severed the limb. Not nearly as satisfying and I was having less fun because of it.
I think devs should avoid this tactic for "rasing difficulty" at all costs. IW has managed to keep their games very difficult on higher settings without resorting to turning enemies into bullet sponges and I hope more devs at least aspire to that goal.
Dresden said:
Yeah, I am not sure how infinite spawns are any better than bullet sponges.
Best way to do it is to somewhat increase your enemies stats, but make them MUCH more capable and aggressive.
But really, it depends on the game.
EX: Fire Emblem. In those games, increasing enemy stats just makes sense. Spawn points and amounts/triggers are also changed, enemies become more aggressive and certain items and bosses change.
But in return, players get a few more capable units and some new tools.
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soldat7 said:
This. It was seriously a breath of fresh air and a nice change of pace from all the hold RT > X > hold RT > Y > Hold RT > X > wash/rinse/repeat. Story had me hooked though...can't really tell you what else I wanted in the game right now though.
ChoklitReign
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Finished! Great finale, totally as good as the ME1 finale. I loved the music on the Collector ship, the boss fight, and the credits. Is it all on the official soundtrack? I also liked the twist that
Disappointments:
the Reapers originated from another galaxy.
Disappointments:
1. Legion died, along with the Normandy crew. Can I upload a save and finish the mission again to get the achievement?
2. No romances. I tried Jacob at the beginning but started hitting on Garrus after recruiting him. Both declined talking after some missions and I wonder why. I nearly got Jacob after the final mission. Does the romance scene happen before or after the final mission?
2. No romances. I tried Jacob at the beginning but started hitting on Garrus after recruiting him. Both declined talking after some missions and I wonder why. I nearly got Jacob after the final mission. Does the romance scene happen before or after the final mission?
Wiggum2007
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ChoklitReign said:
Say what now?
All that was shown at the end was the Reapers out in dark space where they reside between cycles of harvesting the galaxy, not that they are actually coming from a different galaxy or anything.
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Wiggum2007 said:
Exactly.
whatGattsu25 said:
Mass Effect 1 on Insanity was stupid because every non-Geth enemy was a giant bullet-sponge that took forever to kill, and just to add an extra layer of boredom you were never in any danger of dying during that time, because every other skill was an insta-win button that rendered the enemy completely incapable of fighting back (Lift, Throw, Singularity, Overload, Neural Shock, Stasis). Every encounter was over in the two and a half seconds or so it took to neuter the room, but they made you wait around for another couple of minutes until their life bars hit zero.
Every non-Elite enemy (except maybe Krogan) in ME2 will go down in one good Shotgun/Sniper hit, once you've stripped their defenses; effectively getting rid of their defenses almost invariably involves at least some variation in tactics besides holding down the trigger with your one, single weapon of choice, and a protected enemy will be stunned, but not defeated by biotic powers; they can actively fight back at least until they're down to Health, and they can keep fighting back even then if you don't have a biotic in the group.
The part of ME2's combat on Insanity that maps to the whole of ME1's combat on Insanity takes maybe a fifth as long as it did in the first game. Even if it takes as long to down an enemy from scratch in ME2, it's a pretty massive leap up in complexity and, apart from Scions, isn't really accurately described just by saying "takes more bullets".
Let me help you out:Coxswain said:
I wasn't saying that ME1 was sinless, just that ME2's ammo system adds an extra layer of difficulty that just barely tips it over the challenging/frustrating line, in my opinion. This is a complaint that is only relevant before your character gains weapon damage mods (which will take care of my multiple sniper headshots to kill certain foes complaint), ammo capacity mods, or a weapon with a larger clip size.
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Wiggum2007 said:
They were definitely outside of the galaxy when I saw them.
The implication was there, since you lauded Modern Warfare's 'spawn shit till the player trips the invisible flag while chucking fifteen grenades around him to make things challenging' school of game design.Dan Yo said:
With the exception of sniper rifles, I can't remember a single time where you are starved for ammo.Gattsu25 said:
Dresden said:
The hand cannon can chew through ammo even faster than the sniper rifles. The other weapons all hold a good amount of ammo, though - as does the Viper sniper rifle.
As for ME1 Insanity, that was a cakewalk once you'd leveled up and gotten the overpowered abilities. When warp was on cooldown it could take forever to kill all the immunity-spamming enemies, but they never posed much of a threat. My Infiltrator pretty much only died when I got hit with a biotic while Immunity was down, and my Vanguard never died.
Laughing Banana
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Has this been posted? Sorry if old.
Unlimited Skill Point Trick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMk_G-KcoN8
Unlimited Skill Point Trick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMk_G-KcoN8
Wiggum2007
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ChoklitReign said:
Yes. In dark space, outside of our galaxy, which as was revealed in the first game is where they wait in hibernation between cycles of harvesting. Not in a different galaxy.
ChoklitReign said:
True, but
being outside the galaxy and originating from another galaxy are two different things. It was explained in the first game that they hibernate in deep space (outside the galaxy), but it was also revealed in the 2nd game that a reaper was being constructed in our galaxy. Maybe they all were? Who knows. Their origination is still unrevealed.
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you need 100% ammo or more to work, if you get all the upgrades you can get two shots from itd3athcr4ft said:
deim0s said:
One more dangle by the fingers.
One more one handed grab.
One more dangerous jump.
and I will show the Krogans how to use the Conduit
clashfan said:
Noticed about the romance.
After you complete a romance the (minor romance related details)
picture in your cabin is down. If you end it later you can get the picture back up. I guess that doesn't count as cheating.
The_Dude said:
Very similar to Mass Effect 1.
When you enter the relay.
Inferno313
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That's when it happens. I don't understand why this is so strange to a lot of people. It was the same way in ME1The_Dude said:
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