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[rollingstart]

One thing that bothered me about the story was how Legion wasn't as cool as they said he would be. They made it seem like he would be a reoccuring character in the game, stalking Shepard and all that. He is just there at one point and automatically joins your crew.

 

[Cep]

One thing that bothered me about the story was how Legion wasn't as cool as they said he would be. They made it seem like he would be a reoccuring character in the game, stalking Shepard and all that. He is just there at one point and automatically joins your crew.

I never thought he would be what they tried to make him out to be. None of the characters were.

I still liked his insights and how (Like Tali) he seems to be infatuated with Shepard. Giving him 'tude would ruin him. I think that he is guaranteed to come back in the third as he is the only one that cannot 'die.' I hope they do a Silver Surfer type of thing and have him learn and evolve based on shep's actions.

 

[Y2Kev]

One thing that bothered me about the story was how Legion wasn't as cool as they said he would be. They made it seem like he would be a reoccuring character in the game, stalking Shepard and all that. He is just there at one point and automatically joins your crew.

Shock: the marketing for this game was completely misleading and embarrassing. Lol

 

[adamsapple]

lI really liked the last last scene with his voice over and how relinquishing control was so familiar, yet different.

Combined with the crescendoing music, and it was epic.

I liked the sort of sudden look of realization that comes across the collector leader, or maybe that's just the camera work but it came off great and made it seem like the collector leader was sad and regretting right in the face of the explosion.

Shock: the marketing for this game was completely misleading and embarrassing. Lol

"I'm the galaxy's biggest bitch .. oh by the way I cry when I have sex lol"

 

[Ducarmel]

Not that big of a surprise. My reaction was: Okay, so what.

Well it goes into the philosophy of the Reapers salvation through destruction, I guess the Reaper goal is somewhat assimilation. They destroy who you are and turn you into what they want. They might just feed off your species accomplishments and leave you as a shell for them to control.

May be they take the strongest species and use them as slaves or part of their own maybe that what was what the terminator thing was about.

It was a human that destroyed sovereign so humans I guess earned the Reapers respect enough to use humans as a template for a reaper.

 

[LiK]

i was in media blackout so i avoided everything about it. i came in totally fresh so i thought Legion was cool, in a nerdy way.

 

[Cep]

Well it goes into the philosophy of the Reapers salvation through destruction, I guess the Reaper goal is somewhat assimilation. They destroy who you are and turn you into what they want. They might just feed off your species accomplishments and leave you as a shell for them to control.

This is why I was not surprised, they were the 5th example of reaper re-purposing/controling (Keepers, Husks | Rachni, Geth)

Besides, the collectors have roles ("Collectors"), just like the "Keepers". They also lack apparent individuality(even the Geth had that) and look like bugs(like the keepers)

I mean, really...

P.S. Do not take that to mean that I was predicting that exact thing, I just thought that at that point it was insignificant, because we know what Reapers do to organics.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

The geth fleet that attacked the citadel was immensely powerful because of Sovereign. The most powerful ship in the galaxy. Also we don't know how the exact number of ships that were defending the citadel.

Hmm perhaps, but if you watch the ending cutscene battle of mass effect 1 it's not soverign who destroys the destiny ascension, it's the geth who open up with torpedoes and fuck everyones shit up. Sovereign heads straight to the citadel (to upen the super relay)and ignores the fleet. He only attacks when the arms are opened up, sarens dead and the alliance attack him.

And the fleet must have been pretty sizeable if it's destruction allowed the alliance to take over.

 

[Ducarmel]

Whats with you and bugs? :lol

 

[Y2Kev]

Hmm perhaps, but if you watch the ending cutscene battle of mass effect 1 it's not soverign who destroys the destiny ascension, it's the geth who open up with torpedoes and fuck everyones shit up. Sovereign heads straight to the citadel (to upen the super relay)and ignores the fleet. He only attacks when the arms are opened up, sarens dead and the alliance attack him.

And the fleet must have been pretty sizeable if it's destruction allowed the alliance to take over.

It's true, the Destiny Ascension is attacked by the Geth fleet. But Sovereign does attack some capital ships in the Alliance Fleet and cuts it in two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJAPO3ffzuM&feature=related. He also barges past some other ships and just destroys them.

So I dunno what the options are for the next game. We shall see!

Man, the music in ME1 is so much better.

 

[adamsapple]

What if they pull off a Pirates of the Carribean style 1 vs 1 fight with Harbinger facing off against the Normandy to decide the fate of the galaxy ?

how awesome would that be ..

 

[Y2Kev]

The Normandy could probably fit under one of Oprah's fat folds. I'm putting my money on Harbinger.

Normandy gets hit with some tail laser, things look bad, ALL HOPE IS LOST, boom here comes the rachni fleet to hiss and make annoying noises at Harbinger. ohhh nooo they are spraying acid on him, ahhh Harbinger is allergic get him his antihistamines ahh

 

[Cep]

Man, the music in ME1 is so much better.

Only in that it was more unique and some tracks were not BLATANT rearrangements of others.

Other than that, I disagree, this soundtrack was better, not by much, but still.

...Although this game used the music better. Many of the single tracks sound like they are purposed for all emotional highs/lows of the current level.

And I think they looped certain portions until needed.

ME1 was never that dynamic.

 

[Lostconfused]

It's true, the Destiny Ascension is attacked by the Geth fleet. But Sovereign does attack some capital ships in the Alliance Fleet and cuts it in two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJAPO3ffzuM&feature=related. He also barges past some other ships and just destroys them.

So I dunno what the options are for the next game. We shall see!

Man, the music in ME1 is so much better.

My main point is that apparently the Destiny Ascension is the only dreadnought that appeared in both games. Not counting Sovereign who was also classified as one. We have yet to see what a total mobilization of all the fleets might mean.

 

[adamsapple]

The Normandy could probably fit under one of Oprah's fat folds. I'm putting my money on Harbinger.

Normandy gets hit with some tail laser, things look bad, ALL HOPE IS LOST, boom here comes the rachni fleet to hiss and make annoying noises at Harbinger. ohhh nooo they are spraying acid on him, ahhh Harbinger is allergic get him his antihistamines ahh

But what if you didn't save the Rachni queen ?

 

[Cep]

My main point is that apparently the Destiny Ascension is the only dreadnought that appeared in both games. Not counting Sovereign who was also classified as one. We have yet to see what a total mobilization of all the fleets might mean.

Simple, gathering the galaxy together + unforeseen weakness/weapon = Ability to take on reapers.

Their fleet is not that big.

 

[Y2Kev]

But what if you didn't save the Rachni queen ?

Then you lose the game and the game ends with your save file being deleted a la Steel Battalion

I think it'd be crazy if bioware actually let you LOSE the game based on a decision you made two games ago, but that won't happen.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I'm hoping mass effect 3 starts during a war with the reapers, we find out at the end of ME1 that the reapers built the super relay to quickly conquer species, wipe out the command and control and eat them at will.

Without the super relay they're gonna have to do it the slow way, wearing us down, conquering planet after planet, slowly wiping out species. They'll be fighting an enemy thats (hopefully) prepared and knows they exist this time.

Billions will die, it'll be a desperate struggle and through the rubble john connor...sorry, commander shepard will save the day. that might be too dark though, so expect a computer virus killing the reapers.

 

[adamsapple]

Then you lose the game and the game ends with your save file being deleted a la Steel Battalion

I think it'd be crazy if bioware actually let you LOSE the game based on a decision you made two games ago, but that won't happen.

Yeah, I can see it only being helpful to an extent like how the civilians you save in Arm of Two come back to help you in the final mission, nothing you can't beat the game without, but helpful if it's there.

I'm more concerned what'll happen when Liara and Miranda come face to face Can't really choose either one.

 

[Lostconfused]

Simple, gathering the galaxy together + unforeseen weakness/weapon = Ability to take on reapers.

Their fleet is not that big.

Well that weakness is not all that unforeseen. I mean Sovereign shut down completely when Saren died.

I'm more concerned what'll happen when Liara and Miranda come face to face Can't really choose either one.

Liara rips here to pieces, with her mind? God that was really embarrassing.

 

[Cep]

I'm hoping mass effect 3 starts during a war with the reapers, we find out at the end of ME1 that the reapers built the super relay to quickly conquer species, wipe out the command and control and eat them at will.

Without the super relay they're gonna have to do it the slow way, wearing us down, conquering planet after planet, slowly wiping out species. They'll be fighting an enemy thats (hopefully) prepared and knows they exist this time.

Billions will die, it'll be a desperate struggle and through the rubble john connor...sorry, commander shepard will save the day. that might be too dark though, so expect a computer virus killing the reapers.

I sort of agree. I also would like it if Shepard started his on Galactic organization(or take over Cerberus if you are renegade) and kept most of his crew (except Zaeed leaves, Miranda returns to Cerberus, Thane and Mordin die(age and disease))

Complete with Thane Flashbacks if he was you LI.

 

[Cep]

Well that weakness is not all that unforeseen. I mean Sovereign shut down completely when Saren died.

I think when a reaper controls a subject, they pour a significant amount of themselves in them, so when they die, they have trouble returning to the original body (could be that harbinger was different 'cuz the Collector leader was engineered to allow safer control by proxy).

 

[KHarvey16]

I blew that station up just based on what happened with the IFF. I think it would be funny if saving it just made ME3 start up with "lol gg."

 

[golem]

One thing that bothered me about the story was how Legion wasn't as cool as they said he would be. They made it seem like he would be a reoccuring character in the game, stalking Shepard and all that. He is just there at one point and automatically joins your crew.

i still dont know whats up with Legion wearing the N7 armor... are the "normal geth" shepard fanboys ? maybe i havent got to that conversation topic yet, when i asked he clammed up. can anyone elaborate?

 

[Y2Kev]

i still dont know whats up with Legion wearing the N7 armor... are the "normal geth" shepard fanboys ? maybe i havent got to that conversation topic yet, when i asked he clammed up. can anyone elaborate?

You can ask him about it. He basically is obsessed with Shepard. Totally wants his wang. Entire Geth Nation has a website called GMZ where they post updates on Shepard and Lady Gaga, who is actually Queen of the Geth.

 

[Cep]

You can ask him about it. He basically is obsessed with Shepard. Totally wants his wang. Entire Geth Nation has a website called GMZ where they post updates on Shepard and Lady Gaga, who is actually Queen of the Geth.

lol, but seriously.

He stonewalled me when I asked (also, he did not say the line about fear like he did in the promos).

 

[adamsapple]

i still dont know whats up with Legion wearing the N7 armor... are the "normal geth" shepard fanboys ? maybe i havent got to that conversation topic yet, when i asked he clammed up. can anyone elaborate?

Legion found a piece of his armor searching for him on Eden Prime apparently, also where he got shot up by the Alliance which is why he has a hole in his chest.

 

[Lostconfused]

Legion found a piece of his armor searching for him on Eden Prime apparently, also where he got shot up by the Alliance which is why he has a hole in his chest.

Funny how in 2+ years he never bothered to get it fixed.

Edit: Well I guess you aren't edgy and bad ass if you don't have scars or tattoos to show for it.

 

[Kabouter]

expect a computer virus killing the reapers.

Upgraded EDI defeats Reaper AI's, takes over, rules galaxy with iron fist with joker by her side.

 

[golem]

Well if you follow the arguments the reapers make, its impossible to beat them by just trying to nab more advanced technology. Simply because that would be co opting their technology which makes you actions predictable. EDI makes the argument that she can't pilot the ship because a better AI like Geth or Reapers would be able to predict all her actions. In the end the Reapers are sitting at the top and no random piece of technology found lying around will save humanity from them. The solution has to come out of the left field.

That is of course if you believe Sovereign and everything he said wasn't just a huge bluff.

Yeah i think this is the most important point ME2 made, and might the message of the whole trilogy... the shortcuts arent going to work.

If they carry that to ME3, where people who salvaged the space station were actually hampered by the technology they adapted, it would be great.


Also, really enjoyed the fact that it was revealed the heretics were actually the minority, makes perfect sense too.

 

[Ducarmel]

Did anybody encounter Conrad Verner I thought it was funny he was trying to be a spectre in N7 armor, I should go back and finish that side quest.

Its the only thing I think Bioware did right when it referenced somebody from ME1 (assuming you renegade option him in ME1), all the other references were either useless or not well thought out.

 

[selig]

Yeah i think this is the most important point ME2 made, and might the message of the whole trilogy... the shortcuts arent going to work.

If they carry that to ME3, where people who salvaged the space station were actually hampered by the technology they adapted, it would be great.

can someone explain as to why technology isnt going to be of help against the Reapers? I must have forgotten the reason.
Either way, we should really start gathering possible solutions, seems interesting to talk about
So far, there´s four options imo:

- Beat them fairly, by gathering all military forces of the galaxy. Doubtful, though, it that´d be enough
- Some lame "we put a virus into the them, now we´ve won"-Independence Day-solution
- Another lame deus-ex-machine solution, where they manage to beat the Reapers by "will power"
- Help from another galaxy (Someone already mentioned Andromeda, for example). Which could be lame, too, though. Then again, this could be a nice return to the Reapers´ arrogance when the Sovereign explained how the Reapers have been there before "you" and will be there "when you´re gone". Basically, showing them that there´s bigger picture that even they couldnt grasp.

Oh, and there´s a fifth outcoming to the ME-trilogy: Galaxy folks DO NOT manage to defeat the Reapers. Story ends with "Oh snap, we were just too weak" by default. :lol

 

[LiK]

Did anybody encounter Conrad Verner I thought it was funny he was trying to be a spectre in N7 armor, I should go back and finish that side quest.

Its the only thing I think Bioware did right when it referenced somebody from ME1 (assuming you renegade option him in ME1), all the other references were either useless or not well thought out.

of course, that was great. i also met many many other NPCs that i helped in ME1 and they remember everything i did for them. i guess playing Paragon really was advantageous. cuz i bet if you played a Renegade, you probably killed half of them :lol

btw, i helped Conrad again so i bet he'll be up to something else in ME3.

 

[Cep]

of course, that was great. i also met many many other NPCs that i helped in ME1 and they remember everything i did for them. i guess playing Paragon really was advantageous. cuz i bet if you played a Renegade, you probably killed half of them :lol

btw, i helped Conrad again so i bet he'll be up to something else in ME3.

He started a charity in my game.

 

[adamsapple]

can someone explain as to why technology isnt going to be of help against the Reapers? I must have forgotten the reason.
Either way, we should really start gathering possible solutions, seems interesting to talk about

Figuring out some way to use the relays as weapons, or as means to transport the reapers to unknown galaxies or some shit like that. ?

The reapers made the relays right .. so in that sense it'll fit the "using their own things against them" scenario.

Or hell the Citadel could play a big role again, as a reverse conduit or something .. too many possibilities.

 

[Cep]

can someone explain as to why technology isnt going to be of help against the Reapers? I must have forgotten the reason.
Either way, we should really start gathering possible solutions, seems interesting to talk about
So far, there´s four options imo:

- Beat them fairly, by gathering all military forces of the galaxy. Doubtful, though, it that´d be enough
- Some lame "we put a virus into the them, now we´ve won"-Independence Day-solution
- Another lame deus-ex-machine solution, where they manage to beat the Reapers by "will power"
- Help from another galaxy (Someone already mentioned Andromeda, for example). Which could be lame, too, though. Then again, this could be a nice return to the Reapers´ arrogance when the Sovereign explained how the Reapers have been there before "you" and will be there "when you´re gone". Basically, showing them that there´s bigger picture that even they couldnt grasp.

Oh, and there´s a fifth outcoming to the ME-trilogy: Galaxy folks DO NOT manage to defeat the Reapers. Story ends with "Oh snap, we were just too weak" by default. :lol

They are being a tad to literal, but the idea is that the more of their technology we use, the more predictable we become, the better they are able to counter us.

This is dubious when we are talking about direct and immediate conflict. But in terms of evolution, it makes much sense.

 

[The Librarian]

We know from Tali's loyalty quest that the Quarians were experimenting on how to control the Geth once again, and that they were really close.

Did anyone else get a message from one of the Admirals? He said he'll complete what Rael started and that as a result, the Quarians will control the largest synthetic army in the galaxy.

I hope this really materializes in ME3.

 

[LiK]

We know from Tali's loyalty quest that the Quarians were experimenting on how to control the Geth once again, and that they were really close.

Did anyone else get a message from one of the Admirals? He said he'll complete what Rael started and that as a result, the Quarians will control the largest synthetic army in the galaxy.

I hope this really materializes in ME3.

yea, i got that message, it's from that female admiral. i didn't choose sides after the trial on keeping peace or starting a war. having Legion in my squad now, it changes everything. ME3 is gonna be epic!

 

[Cep]

We know from Tali's loyalty quest that the Quarians were experimenting on how to control the Geth once again, and that they were really close.

Did anyone else get a message from one of the Admirals? He said he'll complete what Rael started and that as a result, the Quarians will control the largest synthetic army in the galaxy.

I hope this really materializes in ME3.

It was a she, and one of the main reasons why I chose to blow up the heretics. Legion's Geth are not the same so her measures may not work on his people, as well the fact that I do not want him fighting on two fronts (just in case the virus does not completely work) in ME3

 

[Weeman0313]

They are being a tad to literal, but the idea is that the more of their technology we use, the more predictable we become, the better they are able to counter us.

This is dubious when we are talking about direct and immediate conflict. But in terms of evolution, it makes much sense.

I am Ostrava of Boletaria! Now help me fight these reapers!

 

[Mindlog]

They are being a tad to literal, but the idea is that the more of their technology we use, the more predictable we become, the better they are able to counter us.

This is dubious when we are talking about direct and immediate conflict. But in terms of evolution, it makes much sense.

It's also the same exact path Saren took with Sovereign.


I have a bunch of ME1 Sheppard's I can import. I can't remember which ones punched the reporter in the first game. I'd really like to import that Sheppard.

 

[LiK]

have a bunch of ME1 Sheppard's I can import. I can't remember which ones punched the reporter in the first game. I'd really like to import that Sheppard.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Cep]

I swear to god, if Tali is not in ME3 as a squad member, HEADS WILL ROLL.

 

[LiK]

I swear to god, if Tali is not in ME3 as a squad member, HEADS WILL ROLL.

she's a fan favorite just like Garrus from those Bioware interviews i've heard. so i assume they'll bring her back once again.

 

[adamsapple]

I swear to god, if Tali is not in ME3 as a squad member, HEADS WILL ROLL.

Would be kind of stupid really, Bioware have said many times themselves that she was one of the most requested one's. I can see Mordin, Jacob and Thane taking side rolls for the third one to make room for returning characters from the first one if possible.

 

[Cep]

she's a fan favorite just like Garrus from those Bioware interviews i've heard. so i assume they'll bring her back once again.

If anyone is to be a party member in ME3, Tali and Garrus definitely have the best shot, but still...

Probably gone:

Grunt (Join Urdnot on Tuchanka)
Jacob (Dull, do not care)
Miranda(Dull, do not care)
Thane (Dead: Disease)
Mordin (Dead: Old age)
Samara (Back to Justicar stuff)
Zaeed (Job done, back to mercenary life)

Probably back:

Tali
Jack
Legion
Garrus

 

[LiK]

If anyone is to be a party member in ME3, Tali and Garrus definitely have the best shot, but still...

indeed, Tali was in my squad for the final fight in ME1 AND ME2. i will continue my tradition unless Bioware are jerks and deny me

 

[Weeman0313]

If anyone is to be a party member in ME3, Tali and Garrus definitely have the best shot, but still...

better not let them die i guess. hopefully Garrus won't look like he has shingles in the 3rd one. and Hopefully WE'LL SEE TALI'S FRIGGIN FACE FINALLY!!! ( i was so pissed when you didn't see it during the romance scene)

 

[LiK]

better not let them die i guess. hopefully Garrus won't look like he has shingles in the 3rd one. and Hopefully WE'LL SEE TALI'S FRIGGIN FACE FINALLY!!! ( i was so pissed when you didn't see it during the romance scene)

i thought it was weird that Garrus didn't change his armor after it was damaged. was even weirder when i changed his outfit colors. guess they didn't have a scarred Garrus with new armor model ready

 

[Lostconfused]

i thought it was weird that Garrus didn't change his armor after it was damaged. was even weirder when i changed his outfit colors. guess they didn't have a scarred Garrus with new armor model ready

The worst part is that if they made DLC that fixed hist suit and you know patched up his face, I would buy it.

Edit: I actually don't know why. Its pretty much a pallet swap and they have a model where his face and armor are fine. It couldn't have been that much work.