Last Hearth
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Anti-ending.
Pro-indoctrination.
Pro-indoctrination.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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I can see a post game DLC but a new ending I don't think so. They can't patch a new ending. It would require too much mb and MS/Sony would charge them for it as that content isn't on the disk already. At best it will be a DLC you will pay for :/.
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Dacon
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Yeah I should have just shot Ashley and put her out of her own misery.
EDI never shows up on the ship during the destruction ending so she's definitely toasted. In my game I tried the 3 endings and I got
Green Space Magic : Joker, EDI, Kaidan
Blue Space Magic : Joker, EDI, Kaidan
Red Space Magic : Joker, Kaidan, Garrus.
EDI dies in the destruction one.
Dunno, I'd hate to waste 100 hours toward a boring "yay" ending when the one they made impressed me.
Pro-ending.
Not sure about indoctrination.
dragonelite
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Tell that too ea bad company 2 patch of around 400mb. Didn't bf3 had a 1gig patch with back to karkand. I believe ea is on a seperate deal when it comes too live.
And both of these patches were free when you bought a new copy of the game.
I don't know. I feel like a new ending could probably fit in at 1 GB (hell, the shitty animation library and the rest of the assets are already there) and there's plenty of DLC that hits that size.
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Misread your post.
They are explained in detail in ME1.
- ancient race, not determined from when
- survived as indoctrinated by the reapers when their race was wiped out (like some of the Protheans survived as collectors)
- they no longer listen to reapers, taking orders only from the citadel itself (this explanation makes no sense because apparently both the reapers and the citadel are governed by the same AI)
They're explained in the conversation with the Prothean VI on Ilos (Vigil)
What about this terrible ending impressed you?
Hm, ok. So some of you may remember my initial satisfaction with the ending. After sitting on it for a few days and running my new game plus, it's turning more into "meh". I still don't hate it with every fiber of my being like so many others, but maybe that's because I haven't done as many runs through the games as some people.
However, I would be ok with a different ending. I just don't know how I would feel if it was a forced "redo" based on people's feelings. I don't believe that a story should be shaped solely on popular opinion. If that was the true ending to BioWare's story, then it should be the ending. But if they knew from the beginning this is how they wanted to plan out the ending, by adding DLC, then fuck yes I'm on board with it.
I haven't been on GAF most of the day so I only read back the past few pages, but does anyone care to share a summary of the hints BioWare has mentioned about this actually happening? I only saw the Twitter link to the live-action trailer guy mentioning the indoctrination, and honestly I don't know how anyone would take that seriously. It reeked of sarcasm.
However, I would be ok with a different ending. I just don't know how I would feel if it was a forced "redo" based on people's feelings. I don't believe that a story should be shaped solely on popular opinion. If that was the true ending to BioWare's story, then it should be the ending. But if they knew from the beginning this is how they wanted to plan out the ending, by adding DLC, then fuck yes I'm on board with it.
I haven't been on GAF most of the day so I only read back the past few pages, but does anyone care to share a summary of the hints BioWare has mentioned about this actually happening? I only saw the Twitter link to the live-action trailer guy mentioning the indoctrination, and honestly I don't know how anyone would take that seriously. It reeked of sarcasm.
Last Hearth
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Why do people think a patched ending is impossible?
Fallout 3 did it and it's didn't ruin Bethesda's reputation or their "artistic integrity".
Fallout 3 did it and it's didn't ruin Bethesda's reputation or their "artistic integrity".
Vire
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Aye, he's allowed.
ElectricBlue187
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Pro-ending: I always enjoy an ending that doesn't tell you everything. ME's story has sucked since halfway through the first game
Anti-make believe ending: the evidence is just way too flimsy and based on what people want desperately to believe
Anti-make believe ending: the evidence is just way too flimsy and based on what people want desperately to believe
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My bottle of rum says he's got some esplainin to do
I hope there's some kind of ending patch before I finish my 1st run. /grand delusion.
I would like an ending where Shepard is alive. It doesn't have to be happy ending with the Reaper defeated. But Shepard being alive and able to interact with his crew is what I really wanted.
I would like an ending where Shepard is alive. It doesn't have to be happy ending with the Reaper defeated. But Shepard being alive and able to interact with his crew is what I really wanted.
Vire
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Wait you haven't even beaten the game and you hate it?
Don't let other people's opinions color your own. Make up your own mind first.
ElectricBlue187
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If he's posting in this thread he's probably aware of how it ends
Wait wait, I haven't bought nor do I have the intention of doing this anytime soon. This is pretty much the same Final Fantasy VIII speculation all over again(it was all a dream after disc 1 derp). Self-denial of fans that refuse to accept a crappy ending is amazing. Though even if you buy into the whole indoctrination thing, does that magically make the ending good?
On the flip-side Bioware egging the fans on isn't helping.
On the flip-side Bioware egging the fans on isn't helping.
I'm curious when someone finally pops up that liked it. It seems to happen once every 200 people or so, so I want to know how someone managed to like it.
It's like asking why you even need the Keepers to activate anything on the Citadel to start a Reaper invasion when the Citadel itself controls the Reapers.
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Why do people who haven't beaten it come here?
Karak
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Anti ending- Too many mistakes. Even if its the ending they wanted to tell their inability to do it without all the errors after knowing about it for 5 years is beyond idiotic. Teleportation, stupid characters, suddenly terrible writing. Its just bad.
Indoctrination has some uniquely interesting bits and would be a huge gamble. If anyone would do it, it would be Bioware and it helps with the endings having all the errors(because its a dream) but I am undecided on that.
Indoctrination has some uniquely interesting bits and would be a huge gamble. If anyone would do it, it would be Bioware and it helps with the endings having all the errors(because its a dream) but I am undecided on that.
MisterNugNug
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What video?
Because I've already seen it via Youtube? I thought it's better to prepare this way than to get the shock of my life when I get there.
And yes, it's bad. Considering how what I've experienced so far has been so good, I can't fathom how the ending can be that bad.
Vire
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Because they hate themselves.
Well that's no fun...
You are missing context of what leads up to that point on Earth.
PinkCrayon
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anti-ending.
but I don't know if indoctrination is the way to fix it...
but I don't know if indoctrination is the way to fix it...
PsychoSoldier
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It's pretty mind-boggling---I still think there was some kind of time crunch that forced them to cut it short and make it the way it is.
WrenchNinja
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Edi not showing up isn't proof she's dead.
Yes, I'm in denial but goddamn it, I refuse to believe anything the brat said. Killing the reapers is the only way to make sure the extinction cycle is over, none of this letting them fly off to dark space or giving into their whims and becoming cyborgs nonsense.
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I doubt whatever I haven't seen will change my mind about the ending. I've always been a spoiler whore so I don't mind that much, providing the whole thing actually makes sense and coherent, I'm content with seeing bits and pieces of spoiler.
Well, probably not to this extent but I can list a few:
Final Fantasy VII - wtf, I hate ending where it doesn't show me what happens to the characters.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - lame ending. I hacked countless computers for 3-4 lame choices?
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - as messed up as ME3 but at least we know it'll be solved in FFXIII-3 or DLC.
ElectricBlue187
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Totally dead sorry bro, and its also the ending that Bioware prefers since shep can live
PinkCrayon
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Charging for the DLC will cover the expenses.
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Karak
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I would assume its the same as always. Just hire them via contract. Its not that hard. Scheduling and so forth can be worked around and its not an incredible amount that would be needed. Plus you have some audio already recorded on the disk. You can bet they are like any other company and have a ton already on their server that didn't make it into the press and may cover some of the actual ending anyway. Even if it is simply copies of greetings, "Shepard your alright!" That kind of stuff. All assets of the games used and unused are saved.
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Vire
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Didn't you know? The new ending is already done. They are just waiting for everyone to get mind fucked first.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Unfair?
I thought that was pretty much a direct empirical observation. How is it unfair?
Let's be clear here: they are writers, not gamers. There is only so many hours in a week, with multiple games each week and even more articles to be written. Where would they find the time to reflect properly on the meaning of what they are seeing?
(that, and the many other effects / manipulations companies use to ensure a positive opinion)
It's quite telling that she will never show up in that ending. Why would they code it that way if it wasn't to mean something? If she did show up or if some dead characters showed up I could believe that it was a dream but it's logical that she can't show up in that ending. Your characters can indeed die when you run for the beam too. If your war assets are low you will see their corpse when you walk to the beam.
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Did you make her compute π?
I did synthesis and she showup... reloaded did control and she showed up
I seriously wish this was true, it would be the most evil but genius thing ever.
Getting voice work done with Bioware is extremely smooth. They talked about it on Giant Bomb, but they do everything by video conference, basically, including the directing. And all the actors are well-versed in Bioware's methods so it wouldn't be difficult at all.
The biggest hurdles would be things like getting permission from EA to create assets for free content. And also the fact that the writers may just like the endings and are satisfied with their work.
The biggest hurdles would be things like getting permission from EA to create assets for free content. And also the fact that the writers may just like the endings and are satisfied with their work.
Karak
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Yep that was eye opening actually. They are only the hub and people don't even need to come there. Its all done wherever the person is and their procedures and steps are spot fucking on. Great behind the scenes.
Out of curiosity, out of the people who hated the ending, how many of you hated endings to movies where the characters don't live happily ever after?
I'm not going to give examples of movie titles to avoid spoiling, but I want to see if people base their opinions of endings on whether or not it ended up how they want instead of a tragic ending or something that is left up to interpretation.
I'm not going to give examples of movie titles to avoid spoiling, but I want to see if people base their opinions of endings on whether or not it ended up how they want instead of a tragic ending or something that is left up to interpretation.
Anyone know if the new game+ save allows you to change any of the decisions you made in ME1/2 when importing an ME3 save? I'm more tempted to restart ME3 to experience the good stuff again, but I don't want to have to see the same exact scenarios play out. And dead Jack makes me sad in the pants.
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