Karak
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Copy lots of back and forth here. I misunderstood I guess.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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Copy lots of back and forth here. I misunderstood I guess.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Somebody make this happen, and find a way to connect KOTOR II to missing the "Reaper deadline".
Karak
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That and the fact that the solider ignored HIM but helped others. He also gets through the locked door that shep couldn't get through inside the building. Its just...too strange.
Something just dawned on me. This is so many orders of magnitude past the KOTOR 2 issues and that is still talked about often to this day. MY lord...history in the making people.
If they had ended ME3 with properly excellent-yet-depressing ending, the Reapers can win, and you start ME4 50K years in the future, recovering artifacts from the cycle we just played. Liara's history and warnings abound.
Of course, then you have to workaround the idea of playing a space game with no humans, and I can't imagine that'd sell very well.
All of those sound pretty cool though. First contact war sounds great.
They kind of already did that in the one comic series they did.
Like how the turians and humans could understand each other even though it was the first time they ever met and humanity didn't have those translator devices yet.
Yes, a game with a main character of another race would be fine, like a Kolyat or Garrus game, but a game without any humans could be poorly received.
The liberation of Shanxi and the first visit to the Citadel could make some nice movie moments, or maybe and animated series.
Well I always assumed the black tendrils or whatever on the screen while you are talking to the illusive man is indoctrination encroaching on your consciousness
We all know Turians are just men who evolved from chickens.
Never really minded how human all the aliens are, but Palaven was pushing it.
Well.. I wasn't expecting to keep playing when it was over.
Karak
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If you want to dive into the deep end of Bad Ideas, I guess you could reuse the Prothean DLC plot device. Just flashfreeze Shepard and his/her buddies. "You couldn't save the galaxy this time, but you're the key to the galaxy's ultimate salvation. GO GET 'EM NEXT TIME, TIGER."
Halo 2's ending was a cliff hanger. This is Deus Ex (hurr hurr) machina with no resolution.
Karak
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It sounds like a good deal of you aren't as interested in Shepard and the crew and some kind of continuing adventures. I can see why, but it makes me sad. I just don't see liking someone as much as him, even if Shep is just fighting smaller wars or picking up the pieces or facing a new threat in a sequel.
They do that, and you can see some black all over Shep's neck. But once he tells TIM that he needs to STFU, they disappear.
Apophenia Overload
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The whole damn trilogy should be about having space adventures and pulpy wacky fun, but Bioware is obsessed with the Hero of a Thousand Faces and all modern gaming seem to have to involve gritty end of the galaxy scenarios and finishing the fight.
I'm speaking in general terms of crushing disappointment (we really have to make a measurement for this).
Halo 2's ending was legendarily bad, so I wanna know where it stacks up.
not even remotely surprised by this
Yeah there was some more too but I forgot. I think EatChildren knows it by memory almost.
Karak
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For me, and Halo is my favorite game series. ME3's ending is far far worse. More invested, nothing whatsoever returned. Not even on the same level.
ME4 would be a perfect chance for this. Start out on a planet full of various aliens, you pick one of the races to play as. Then go exploring the galaxy without relays.
Halo 2 was disappointing, in that it was a total cocktease, but at least we had the promise of Halo 3 (and the hope that the series would wrap up there). So it didn't hurt too much and we had the rad multiplayer to play.
This is the end for the ME trilogy.
One thing that still bugs me:
In Citadel: Kakliosaur, a salarian wants a Kakliosaur fossil so that he can create clones using its DNA and help Krogan warriors fight on toxic worlds.
How come no one mentions creating new Protheans using genetic material from a living specimen? It doesn't make sense as well that Javik himself show no interest at all in ''resurrecting'' his race, specially when it seems simple enough with the technology at the time.
In Citadel: Kakliosaur, a salarian wants a Kakliosaur fossil so that he can create clones using its DNA and help Krogan warriors fight on toxic worlds.
How come no one mentions creating new Protheans using genetic material from a living specimen? It doesn't make sense as well that Javik himself show no interest at all in ''resurrecting'' his race, specially when it seems simple enough with the technology at the time.
PsychoSoldier
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If Shepard has to kill the Geth in order to have further space adventures I could give two shits about playing that Shepard.
Karak
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Jezuz...christ...its like a fucking bloody wound each time I read that.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Thing about Halo 2 was that you knew there would be a third one. And despite the whole shenanigans about the Chief being "killed/MIA", the legendary ending of 3 proved that even if there wasn't a Halo 4, Chief was still out there, "waiting until you needed him".
With ME3, the defining ending to a trilogy, we get jack diddly for resolution, either on Shepard's Crew or the Universe as a whole.
Ugh. At least the music is absolutely amazing. Take tracks like this one. So damn good.
Ethics, I suppose? It's kind of a moot point, Javik isn't interested in conquering the galaxy like the protheans of old, he wants to finish the war, and go to rest with his dead comrades.
It's probably a good thing. The Protheans were assholes.
Maybe Protheans have specific beliefs about cloning sentients?
I mentioned it earlier that the soundtrack was familiar. That track just sounds like the one from The Fountain.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VUgC6215Gko
Although he's just part of the music, having had Mansell work on the game really makes me wish that if they wanted a metaphysical ending, they should have gone all out.
Edit: We should all watch The Fountain again.
Finish it. BioWare.
There's probably galaxy wide laws from the Council against cloning anything that's advanced or civilized. Plus like it was said already they were huge assholes and probably shouldn't be brought back
ElectricBlue187
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I did the paragon ending and I gotta say, I loved it. Incredible ending. I'm interested to see the others
I love how all the choices had good and bad outcomes. Perfect.
I love how all the choices had good and bad outcomes. Perfect.
There's probably galaxy wide laws from the Council against cloning anything that's advanced or civilized. Plus like it was said already they were huge assholes and probably shouldn't be brought back
I'm sure there are Salarians that would do it on the sly if you wanted
You've seen the others. True story. They just come in Cherry and Mint.
All three endings are nearly identical.
ElectricBlue187
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But if the little dude was telling the truth there's no way all the outcomes could be the same
They mean that all options have the same FMV. You should check them out on YT.
It's up for you to imagine what those outcomes are, because BioWare sure as shit isn't going to show you.
It's true that they were assholes, enslavers and all, but that's not a genetic trait, a new prothean wouldn't necessarily want to conquer worlds and kill hanar because they can't speak properly.There's probably galaxy wide laws from the Council against cloning anything that's advanced or civilized. Plus like it was said already they were huge assholes and probably shouldn't be brought back
Someone should be at least interested in cloning a Reaper, even if for simple use as private troops or pure research. Someone like the Illusive Man, for instance, should be interested in indoctrinating a reaper, in theory it could be much more efficient than having that many assault troopers.
ElectricBlue187
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I'm okay with that. I don't need a fmv to show me every last detail. Story wise I thought it was a pretty solid ending
Shepard lives in the renegade option. So there's that. He falls down to earth in the wreckage, survives the descent through the atmosphere, and then also survives crashing into the ground at 20,000 miles per hour or however fast wreckage falls.
Also, Edi will only be alive in one out of the 3 endings. Otherwise, they're the same cut scene with some different colors thrown in.
Definitely not worth replaying the game two, or even 3 times, to see them.
The FMVs don't show you any detail whatsoever to distinguish the three, beyond the one ending having leaves look like computer chips. That's a far cry from "every last detail".
I replayed the last scene because I picked the synthesis ending, not knowing there were actually the two other options. When I saw the difference was getting cherry instead of mint (excellent description of it, btw), I was so pissed I wasted those 20 mins.
I meant for the impact of the outcome you selected (i.e., what does destroying them mean for the universe v. controlling them). I didn't think the RGB explosion difference mattered much in that regard.
Apophenia Overload
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The Deus Ex comparisons are pretty telling, I can't help but think even Invisible War's endings were better than ME's. In both DX 1 and 2 the endings are really brief but they're really evocative, really fitting the different world you end up creating. They ain't no palette swaps of each other.
That's incorrect. The explosions are different colors
I'm sure the lack of elaboration is one of the many nasty points about the ending, but I don't think that's on the top of the list.
The problem is that the ending just doesn't fit with the world and what weve come to enjoy and appreciate about it. It's almost like it's some awful thread in the OT forum - "If organic life was doomed to be overthrown by its own robots, how would you deal with it?"
It just doesn't fit with Mass Effect
The problem is that the ending just doesn't fit with the world and what weve come to enjoy and appreciate about it. It's almost like it's some awful thread in the OT forum - "If organic life was doomed to be overthrown by its own robots, how would you deal with it?"
It just doesn't fit with Mass Effect
you did it for joker. it was obvious he had a thing for EDI, now it's just not embarassing.
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