Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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BannedEpisode
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Most people being the geth?
Sorry Geth. I like them but I have a gut feeling that even they would understand.
As for being wiped out thats assuming that the relays completely supernova'd. As far as we know they simply broke down releasing the synthetic kill switch wave.
Are you certain that isn't a New Game+ save you are referring to? This is my save file:
BigJonsson
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I also like how every advanced civ that was annihilated left something for the next prospect civ to discover and add too
I think I've been indoctrinated by the indoctrination theory. It really does make the most sense. How else could you explain the extra scene of Shepard taking a breath in the pile of rubble - something that only can happen if you choose the "destroy" ending and directly contradicts what the kid tells you minutes earlier. And all those Mass Effect Twitter account replies are pretty telling.
Is there any reason to call the kid god? I don't consider the Catalyst to be so, though it contains magical qualities. There's nothing godlike about it, actually.
However, what's the point of the indoctrination theory? You're indoctrinated and you'll accept Reaper-dom. Congrats, you'll now be a Reaper. The end.
Zomba13
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Exactly. Shepard should have had the option of arguing back and disproving the AI's claims. He had (in my game) two perfect examples of Synthetics and Organics getting along.
My Shep would have said screw your choices, we'll take our chances. I mean the EMS said the chance of victory was even.
Jake Tower
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anti-ending
pro-indoctrination (which makes the ending even more bullshit meaning the "real ending" is DLC)
You should never take that twitter account seriously.
PsychoSoldier
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He rewrites the genetic code of everyone in the galaxy.
If that's not godlike I don't know what is.
CATALYST like
What's wrong with the destruction ending?
It's not it though, because it tells you that it can't do it on its own: You have to make the choice. The Crucible/Citadel are responsible for the magic after that.
You destroy sentient robotics.
BannedEpisode
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I mean seriously right?
Which is why my Shepard is still just standing there watching the earth from outer space. Fuck the kid I don't have to choose any of your bullshit endings. Ha!
Zomba13
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It wipes out the Geth, a race that has just recently been given full sentience and individuality thanks to the Reaper code upgrade.
Jake Tower
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It means the slices of bread you toast are cyborgs.
BannedEpisode
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It kills the geth and screws up intergalactic flight for the foreseeable future.
Maybe I sympathize with Biological life but it seems like the best long term solution.
Psychoward
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All of the endings destroy the mass relays.
So again, intergalactic flight = over
Riposte
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So how likely it is that the original reason the Reapers were killing advanced civilizations was because of mass effect fields and how they were causing dark energy to destroy (or accelerate the destruction of) the universe/galaxy? Would fit the game's title a lot better. (And the hints in ME2, etc. I think there was hint in one of the novels even.)
Though that wouldn't make much sense unless some use of mass effect technology stopped the universe from obtaining the natural form of complete entropy.
Though that wouldn't make much sense unless some use of mass effect technology stopped the universe from obtaining the natural form of complete entropy.
Keep in mind that even if shepard isn't indoctrinated, he just lost a significant amount of blood, been exposured to Geth/Cerberus/Prothean/Reaper mind altering technology repeatedly, stressed from the fate of his species and the galaxy resting on his shoulders, and probably suffered from personal losses.
Even if that is the right choice, and I definitely agree that it is, it's understandable why it did not occur to shepard at that time.
It's only robots though. They can always be rebuilt. And you stop all the genocidal ones.
^ Robots have feelings, too. Didn't EDI teach you that? She learned to love.
We'll, thanks for committing genocide. You're no better than the Reapers.
Psychoward
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But he'd be organic.
"Yo Toasty, hit me up with the good stuff, extra butter"
"I don't feel like it, maybe after I finish sleeping"
According to the theory, if you choose to destroy the reapers despite the signals pushing you towards one of the other two choices, you overcame the attempt at indoctrination, Shepard wakes up, and we get the real ending. (As DLC probably.
)The child is a synthetic consciousness that created all synthetic and organic life in the universe. From the central point of the Citadel, this being created all Reapers and he controls them to use in cycles of destruction and rebirth as he sees fit to control the balance of "chaos" within the entire universe.
If that's not god, I don't know what is.
Sure it destroy's synthetics, but the catalyst states that the cycle will just continue.
No it is possible but it heavenly depends on the choices you made in ME 1 and 2.
BannedEpisode
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Call me an optimist but I have a feeling that the tech breakthroughs gained while building the crucible along with a continued need to work together among the allied races will have them working to fix them.
They understand how relays work and they possess faster than light travel. Simply having the liveship and the generational galactic travel knowledge of the Quarians makes it conceivable undertaking.
The cycle will potentially continue because it is plausible that another genocidal synthetic race will be developed by organics. That is a long ass time coming if it happens.
Well, that's unlikely since she lacks the biochemical responses to feel love. She may be able to identify it in other species though. Possibly even mimic it.
Furthermore, it's not like Shepard hasn't mucked with the Geth before. In ME2 you either completely rewrote an entire sect of the species or committed mass murder of them if you did Legion's loyalty mission. Yet Shepard wasn't charged with war crimes for that.
XANDER CAGE
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Another call for names, anyone still want in? Maybe I'll just volunteer select people :3
BigJonsson
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Zomba13
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That was pretty much the original plot before they decided to make it stupid.
So because I was a true paragon I have to do multiplayer?
I'm sorry but that doesn't fly with me. If what you say is true, then there should be no choices at all at the end. It should just be a non-interactive cutscene. But in this case the player IS Shepard, and the player is making Shepard's decisions. It is not understandable why it did not occur to "Shepard" when it occurred to me, especially since I am role playing as Shepard.
Bad writing.
It isn't though. We don't know that it created anything. When did it say that it created life?
We only know that it's a system that's hidden within the Citadel which can only be tweaked with the Crucible. Once it's activated, the Crucible gives the Citadel magical powers. Currently, or at the time Shepard goes to meet it, the Catalyst is set to run the genocidal 50-thousand-year cycle.
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lastplayed
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ME I've been complaining since the beginning of the thread.
I hate the ending and that indoctrination theory.
The only one that matters w/r/t to what you're talking about is the newgameplus save file that is created at the end of the game. (that's the file used to re-import your me3 shep for a ng+)Are you certain that isn't a New Game+ save you are referring to? This is my save file:
No one's save file say anything about living on the normal saves.
Pollux
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I think Bioware has something up their sleeve. I just think they've been holding out on revealing it until after the game has been released in all regions.
I think they did this because they didn't want the ending spoiled. Think about it, this star child ending has been spoiled for everyone. Now imagine if that were the actual ending. There would be no wonder, or surprise, for people who found out. Same as there is no wonder for those who found out about this ending we're all pissed about.
We'll see. I'm probably wrong though.
I think they did this because they didn't want the ending spoiled. Think about it, this star child ending has been spoiled for everyone. Now imagine if that were the actual ending. There would be no wonder, or surprise, for people who found out. Same as there is no wonder for those who found out about this ending we're all pissed about.
We'll see. I'm probably wrong though.
Karak
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Man. I want to piss in 3 colored water balloons and toss them at Bioware at E3 after asking them to choose a color!
Shitting endings leave a bad taste in your mouth don't they?!?
If I could I would bring my nephew and dress him up like the star child and have him badger them for the rest of the event.
Shitting endings leave a bad taste in your mouth don't they?!?
If I could I would bring my nephew and dress him up like the star child and have him badger them for the rest of the event.
Zomba13
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But did it have bloom?
What does one need to say to get a magical orange space magic name in a video?
I would also accept green!
Anti-ending.
Would have been a better ending with-indoctrination.
It bothered me at the time that after everything he has been through in the games, that at that last step he just kinda stands there and accepts whatever the AI tells him and gets on with it, I tried walking away and hoping something would happen to find myself disappointed.
Because nothing bad has ever come from volunteering for something you don't know about.
Edit: Helpful response - anti-ending
BigJonsson
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Anti-ending
Pro-indoctrination (Maybe even pro-ending if the indoctrination theory is true because of how fucking ballsy it would be on Bioware's part.)
This sounds like a terrible business strategy. And that's not even broaching the artistic merits.
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