Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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The multiplayer DLC is pretty much guaranteed. The dude who made the save game editors for all ME games said it was coming and i trust him. He also figures out what games are coming to Steam by editing things. :lol
 
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
 
Kurtofan said:
The ending being somewhat disappointing doesn't make the game any less great.
People giving the game a shit rating because of the ending aren't any better.
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How so? I've been a fan since day one and played through the first two games numerous times. I have no intention to sit down for another play through. As someone said previously

Dresden said:
Imagine that Frodo got rid of the ring and is now lying there with Sam when a giant eagle picks him up and carries him into magic elf land where he is told by a tiny midget elf that he was the master behind Sauron and now Frodo has to make a choice between killing all the orcs and other such magical beings which would include elves, controlling them and becoming the new lord of dark shit or making everyone half-orc-elf-human-hobbit-dwarfs. Then you see a cutscene where green clouds explode from Mordor and there's a clip of everyone growing elf-ears.
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Do you honestly believe that series would be talked about today the way it is, if it ended that way?
 
EatChildren said:
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
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I'm glad I have the OST, so I can listen to his tracks without watching the ending again. :p
 
EatChildren said:
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
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The DLC should contain "The Last Man" as Shep goes wandering through the Galaxy in his deity form.

DO IT BIOWARE!

wenis said:
So I don't get it, why are people hating the ending? Just finished the game.
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There are some inconsistencies between what the ending was supposed to be, according to a few articles released days before the game and what we got. Plus, some people dislike the lack of closure or epilogue.
 
So whats the deal with everyone who doesn't like the ending being whiny entitled babies?


I honestly can't tell if Jim Sterling/Ben Kuchera etc are just trying to get hits, or they actually think the ending was good. Ben Kuchera is publicly announcing whenever he blocks someone on twitter who disagrees with him, and in between hamburgers Sterling wrote a backhanded sarcastic article about the childs play thing. Which is totally cool, I think it's one thing to write a negative Amazon.com review, it's another to hand over hard earned dollars to say you didn't like the ending. There's little more you could do show how much you care than giving money. I don't think it's to deflect criticisms about being entitled, I think it's to show how serious they are.

It's just funny to see it from the PA guy, working for Gabe and Tycho and then basically go against what they always say about stuff like this. Hell, even in mondays post Tycho says the fact that people are so upset shows how good the games were.

It's really only these game "journalists" that seem to be alright with it too, very curious. I've seen the one or two guy who liked the ending, of course. I didn't hate it, I just didn't think it was that great, but it's a little overt hit fishing I think.
 
EatChildren said:
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
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It sounded to me like the dream segments used an eerie version of his intro piece.
 
EatChildren said:
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
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Indeed it is. The Dream music is amazing as well. Absolutely haunting and ethereal.
 
Prologue said:
How so? I've been a fan since day one and played through the first two games numerous times. I have no intention to sit down for another play through. As someone said previously



Do you honestly believe that series would be talked about today the way it is, if it ended that way?
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You can't judge the entire game on its ending, ME3 is still great.

Even if the destination isn't all that great, the journey sure as hell is.
 
I want to start a Harold Camping level campaign proclaiming "The Truth" DLC will arrive April 1, as proven by The Codex and will of The Holy Catalyst. Through extensive research and spiritual enlightenment, I have found irrefutable evidence that BioWare has trolled us all and is planning to "save" us on April the 1st.

Shepard lives and s/he will rise again to save us all and lead us to the Kingdom of Mass Effect. E nomini Anderson, et Shepard e Catalyst sancti, A-Tali.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
So we have a few options here

1) The ending is as plainly the way it looked. Shep meets magical space child, you choose different colored explosions, for some reason the crew that was with you on earth landed in some jungle.

So, Bioware wrote a really shitty ending, possibly rushed for time.

2) Indoctrination theory where nothing that happened after being hit by Harbinger's laser really happened. It was Shepard's mind fighting off indoctrination. His/her conversation with the Illusive Man was representative of his/her own struggle to keep a grip over their own mind. The choice determined whether you wake up or not and did not actually cause pointless stone age-ing of the galaxy. For whatever reason, Shepard is shown an image of your crew crash-landing in a jungle.

So, Bioware did not write the ending of the game to either leave it vague or to sell you an ending later.

3) They ending was just a feint while they were rushed for time to make an actual ending. It will come out eventually.

So, Bioware sold you an incomplete product, but intends to fix it eventually and was not out to PURPOSELY screw you out of an appropriate ending.

It's kind of funny that the best possible choice for Bioware - as in, the option above that makes them look the least incompetent and sleazy - is the one where they tried to write a clever ending and just threw up all over themselves.
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I think the indoctrination theory didn't come out of nowhere, but it's not even an option. It's like that one youtube video where the guy pointed out that there's really no hard evidence showing that's what happened, and that everyone would rather it all been "a dream" instead of what actually happened shows how bad it was. But all the so-called evidence for the indoctrination theory is just gameplay elements, like the gun and the no-helmet in space. I don't even know why that keeps being brought up. A super advanced ancient space station is gonna have atmosphere on it. The only part of the citadel that's sealed is the presidium, the wards are just open sky. People are really grasping at straws for the "it didn't really happen" option. It's like denial.


Lifejumper said:
I wonder why Anderson was shown as a renegade and Illusive Man as a Paragon in the ending. Doesn't make any sense.
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People say it's the indoctrination thing, but more likely it's because there isn't a "destroy the reapers" option, there's only a "destroy synthetic life" option, which includes your friends the Geth and EDI. So TIM is the lesser of two evils, the only good ending (evidenced by what the space child said and having to have a lot of EMS) is the green ending. So technically I think both options are "bad".

Man, it's almost like their own ending pointed out how stupid it was.
 
Man, it must suck to be a mining colony. Your only connection to the outside world just blew up, and probably took the only fueling station for 150 lightyears around with it. If not, then somebody's gonna grab that thing and become a feudal warlord fast.

Actually no, it'll be worse if you're one of the big homeworlds. After about 5 minutes of "yay shepard" shit's gonna turn Fallout fast as soon as people realize that the colonization that makes life possible on their resource-depleted polluted shitholes possible is gone.
 
LAUGHTREY said:
I think the indoctrination theory didn't come out of nowhere, but it's not even an option. It's like that one youtube video where the guy pointed out that there's really no hard evidence showing that's what happened, and that everyone would rather it all been "a dream" instead of what actually happened shows how bad it was. But all the so-called evidence for the indoctrination theory is just gameplay elements, like the gun and the no-helmet in space. I don't even know why that keeps being brought up. A super advanced ancient space station is gonna have atmosphere on it. The only part of the citadel that's sealed is the presidium, the wards are just open sky. People are really grasping at straws for the "it didn't really happen" option. It's like denial.
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They want to believe the BioWare writers are smarter than they appear to be. It's kind of cute.
 
LAUGHTREY said:
So whats the deal with everyone who doesn't like the ending being whiny entitled babies?


I honestly can't tell if Jim Sterling/Ben Kuchera etc are just trying to get hits, or they actually think the ending was good. Ben Kuchera is publicly announcing whenever he blocks someone on twitter who disagrees with him, and in between hamburgers Sterling wrote a backhanded sarcastic article about the childs play thing. Which is totally cool, I think it's one thing to write a negative Amazon.com review, it's another to hand over hard earned dollars to say you didn't like the ending. There's little more you could do show how much you care than giving money. I don't think it's to deflect criticisms about being entitled, I think it's to show how serious they are.

It's just funny to see it from the PA guy, working for Gabe and Tycho and then basically go against what they always say about stuff like this. Hell, even in mondays post Tycho says the fact that people are so upset shows how good the games were.

It's really only these game "journalists" that seem to be alright with it too, very curious. I've seen the one or two guy who liked the ending, of course. I didn't hate it, I just didn't think it was that great, but it's a little overt hit fishing I think.
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Whatever respect I had for kuchera is gone. Talk about being a huge baby.
 
Sojgat said:
http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effec...-the-mass-effect-3-ending-sequence/35-539298/

if your unconvinced skim this
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Another good read. I'm glad they mentioned no one helping the kid onto the escape shuttle. I was thinking about that today, and noticed no one paid any attention to the kid, when normally they would have literally tossed him in the escape shuttle ASAP.

But people still want to say the indoctrination theory is people grasping for straws to make the ending better... that explains why I thought the indoctrination theory was bullshit until I read a good deal into it.
 
1stStrike said:
*high five*

Whenever I see a straw I'll be thinking of that line from now on. Drunk Tali is best Tali.
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Best Tali indeed. Whenever I'm going to drink something out of a straw now, I'm gonna chuckle or giggle for a a split-second, and friends will ask "what's so funny". They won't get it.

I'm going to need some new friends.
 
The indoctrination ending just makes too much damn sense. All the stuff that don't make sense in the original ending, just turns around and become crystal clear.

I can finally play through the game again "knowing" that's the deal.

Also, if this means DLC about finishing the fight against the last remaining reapers, it could mean getting to know their true motives. The catalyst only chose the concept "Organics vs Synthetics", as Shepard isn't as well versed in the problem of spreading dark matter or any other more complex issue the reapers could be supposed to solve.

Do not forget that we could get a better ending to TIM too.
 
hao chi said:
Another good read. I'm glad they mentioned no one helping the kid onto the escape shuttle. I was thinking about that today, and noticed no one paid any attention to the kid, when normally they would have literally tossed him in the escape shuttle ASAP.

But people still want to say the indoctrination theory is people grasping for straws to make the ending better... that explains why I thought the indoctrination theory was bullshit until I read a good deal into it.
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I also found it odd about the kid not being helped.
 
hao chi said:
Another good read. I'm glad they mentioned no one helping the kid onto the escape shuttle. I was thinking about that today, and noticed no one paid any attention to the kid, when normally they would have literally tossed him in the escape shuttle ASAP.

But people still want to say the indoctrination theory is people grasping for straws to make the ending better... that explains why I thought the indoctrination theory was bullshit until I read a good deal into it.
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Or it could be that the engine can't really handle collision detection between models, so they didn't bother trying to have someone help the kid into the shuttle.

Hell, half the time they can't even show people kissing. Does that support the Indoctrination theory as well? In her dream, Liara/Garrus/Thane/Kaidan aren't real, so they're not allowed to kiss Shepard. :p
 
Sojgat said:
http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effec...-the-mass-effect-3-ending-sequence/35-539298/

if your unconvinced skim this
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I want to believe... :\

EDIT: 12. *The Xbox version of the game takes up 9 GB more space than the PC version. Why? Because the information for the actual ending is already on the Xbox disc, and they couldn't put it on the PC disc because we PC modders would have easily found it.* The PC version only requires 16 GB, when we were told the game would require 25 GB right up until the release date."

This has to be BS right? Wouldn't crazy data miners / hackers find evidence in like 10 seconds ala SFxT?
 
EatChildren said:
You know what? It pisses me off that Mansell's incredible work was reserved for all my least favourite parts of the game. I still think the intro sucks, and his music is there. The ending sucks, and his music is there. Wouldn't be surprised if he scored the dream segments too.

An End Once and For All is an amazing piece.
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Clint only scored 2 tracks out of the entire soundtrack, underwhelming use of his talent.

Was just watching the credits again, didn't realise Buzz Aldrin voiced the Stargazer. Heh.
 
From Jessica Merizan twitter (Bioware employee)

USER: Just finished ME3. I didn't know my squadmates could teleport . . . strange, innit?
JM: Not teleporting - can't explain now though to keep my feed spoiler free :)

USER: Can you give us some glimmer of hope so I can at least get some sleep tonight?
JM: We should both go to sleep with some hope :)

USER: So it's been 3 games and Shep has never been indoctrinated? Or are we missing something?
JM: What do you think?

USER: Because the relays were destroyed I either a: Destroyed all life quickly or b: sentenced them to extinction.
JM: Are you absolutely sure about that?
 
So tell me if I got this Indoctrination theory down right. Everything we did in the game didn't happen? It was all a Matrix-style illusion designed to change Sheperds point of view to align with who? The Reapers?

I think I chose the destroy option so I guess that would explain why I wasn't see the Reaper's angle.
 
Lifejumper said:
From Jessica Merizan twitter (Bioware employee)

USER: Just finished ME3. I didn't know my squadmates could teleport . . . strange, innit?
JM: Not teleporting - can't explain now though to keep my feed spoiler free :)

USER: Can you give us some glimmer of hope so I can at least get some sleep tonight?
JM: We should both go to sleep with some hope :)

USER: So it's been 3 games and Shep has never been indoctrinated? Or are we missing something?
JM: What do you think?

USER: Because the relays were destroyed I either a: Destroyed all life quickly or b: sentenced them to extinction.
JM: Are you absolutely sure about that?
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She's a community manager, she did not work on the game.
 
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