See how your choices do matter. The ending can be a depressing letdown, or a REALLY depressing letdown.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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See how your choices do matter. The ending can be a depressing letdown, or a REALLY depressing letdown.
I genuinely feel sorry for that PR person, it's a thankless job and that's kind of a shitty thing to say
Well, it is true.
Glad that you see sense
scarybore
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Usually I'm not one to speak bad of people but I can only hope Walters is never lead writer on a series ever again. He's probably a nice man, but he clearly made some awful decisions with the franchise as a whole and appears out of his depth.
Sure hope someone records it as it should be glorious. Also hope someone tries to steal Walter's hat, it's a human hat probably made by a child so no doubt he would be distraught.
The colour blind tweet was superb, don't have the image at hand though.
Sure hope someone records it as it should be glorious. Also hope someone tries to steal Walter's hat, it's a human hat probably made by a child so no doubt he would be distraught.
Lol at this tweet.
The colour blind tweet was superb, don't have the image at hand though.
God dammit, I really feel for the other writers. There is some genuily amazing stuff in ME3. Garrus is great, Tali is as cute as ever and Liara is just amazing. To have that kind of content attached to a, at best, soap opera ending is just baffling. I mean, this is a videogame. a Bunch of pixels with a voice on top. But, I actually cared about some of the characters. This was my space soap opera, one I could interact with. I mean, one of the most amazing moment I can remember was the "Time Box" that Liara gives to Shepard. That was what I wanted. My own Shepard shaping my story.
Fuck that, I'm just sad for the entire team now.
Vire
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I can think of many things.
It's funny that he mentioned Brave New World as a source of inspiration because despite it being one of my favorite novels of all time, the ending is one of the most ridiculous nonsensical unrelated pieces of shit that I've ever read.
Regardless, the book has too many important themes and ideas to let it bother me enough.
heliosRAzi
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Brave NEw World > Matrix LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
EatChildren
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Ha ha ha oh wow.
I know what you mean. Tali died in my playthrough (which also made me feel crappy) and I rewrote the geth, so peace between with the Quarians was impossible for me. Forced into choosing between 2 genocides, I defended the geth, and I felt absolutely horrible as all the quarians died. It made me depressed for the entire day.
That is not what happens with the ending though.
Here it is, along with a series of other images gathered from this thread.
https://minus.com/mbxm0TCIq#1g
If the Guild Wars 2 panel at PAX East last year was any indication...you're going to have to line up 2-3 hours early in order to get in. It was about 2 hours for GW2 and this one's going to have a LOT of attention. I'll certainly be planning to attend it, though, although I wouldn't be surprised if the writers skip out on this one, specifically Mac. He'd be way too much of a target.
Lol at this tweet.
Brilliant.
Seriously. It would explain a lot if Walters tackled the main story arc while the other writers did the various missions and characters. That right there would explain the amazing 99% of the game and terrible 1%.
EatChildren
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I like basically ever bit of writing in ME3 with the exception of the intro (which I got over) and the ghost child ending. I loved the story arcs for all the characters. I loved the individual dialogue. I loved the set pieces. I loved the themes. I loved how it wrapped most things up but also left room to speculate about the future. They wrapped up so many character arts in convincing, enjoyable ways. The final set pieces on Earth, where you talk to all your crew for the last time, was incredible and showed how invested I was.
Then suddenly, a wild Walters appeared.
heliosRAzi
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Lol at this tweet.
What a fucking asshole. Not funny in the slightest.
FullMetalx
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damn...I guess I'll have to play some MP then.
Rebel Leader
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What a good read tthough
I think it would have been a nice touch to have flashbacks of prior moments in the series and possible outcomes as you walk toward your choice. Adds some weight and emotional investment to the decision. I say this because the short shot of Liara's half smile as my Shepard was absorbed to power the synthesis got me good.
FullMetalx
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Lol at this tweet.
that is glorious.
I just noticed this post. If you know this friend, ask him to get the other writers to write up on how they would have ended it and post it somewhere. That will be my personal canon.
I've seen a few episodes of Evangelion, I think that was it, but it was a good while ago now so i can't really remember anything.
And I didn't mean so much that they shouldn't have killed anyone off, I went in thinking Shepard would have to sacrifice himself anyway, it's the combination of not only killing off your favourite characters but to then give a really shitty ending.
I can deal with killing people off if the ending isn't terrible, and I don't mean terrible to mean not a happy ending, it can be a sad ending etc., but the ending we got wasn't a good ending for the series as a whole even in the slightest.
SpectreFire
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Eh. It's pretty much what Bioware did to us?
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Yeah, about what we said in our launch trailer... We were just kidding.
Barack Lesnar
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Sums it up perfectly.
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Am I reading this wrong? Didn't see it pointed out specifically, might have missed it.
They're basically admitting that they cut the Prothean from the main game to put as DLC due to time constraints, aren't they?
I kinda saw the overall "we didn't expect it would be so poorly received", but this.....this is just shittastic decision making by Bioware.
They're basically admitting that they cut the Prothean from the main game to put as DLC due to time constraints, aren't they?
I kinda saw the overall "we didn't expect it would be so poorly received", but this.....this is just shittastic decision making by Bioware.
Hence, the sheer amount of fan endings on YouTube that have been created that simply excise all the Ghost Child out and just shows the beam of energy killing the Reapers.
No. BioWare didn't deliberately insult us by creating a great game with a bad ending. That "fan" had one purpose for making that Tweet and it was to act like a child.
Yeesh, Mac Walters almost makes me want to hate the game.But the game has a whole is pretty great and it's a fucking shame they let him do this abortion of an ending.
I hate Walters so much.
FullMetalx
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the "different" endings of this game make me realize how awesome the ending are for Heavy Rain.
EatChildren
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Barack Lesnar
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Pretty much.
Which directly contradicts everything that they said about it in the first place.
Empty Space
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As much as I would like this to happen even if it was done anonymously it would probably expose who they are inside the company and get them in huge trouble.
Rebel Leader
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I am wondering... how close is the nearest hospital to Pax?
Where is this information from?
Barack Lesnar
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hahahaha love that meme
Just got caught up on the last couple of pages and the entire "Lots of speculation" stuff. I... wow. Pulling something like this intentionally is probably one of the biggest dick moves I have ever seen in any work of fiction.
It sucks for BioWare because it's pretty much like a football team being at the Super Bowl, being the very last chance that team could play, be within spitting distance of the winning touchdown, but fumbles at 99 yards, costing them the game. The team might have been adored by most and had a spectacular performance, but that one moment will be the albatross hanging around their neck throughout history.
I don't want to fall into the trap of thinking I am entitled to a better ending; it is their story and they can do with it as they wish. With a trilogy or any series of fiction, bad endings are just an inherent, unavoidable risk. But personally, if BioWare is going to pull something like this for the sake of speculation alone, why even get anywhere near as invested in any other game with similar writers? Why even give them the benefit of the doubt? At the moment, my thought is "If they are going to sweep the rug from under the players' feet with this much glee, I'll just spare myself the headache in the future entirely by not playing their games."
It sucks for BioWare because it's pretty much like a football team being at the Super Bowl, being the very last chance that team could play, be within spitting distance of the winning touchdown, but fumbles at 99 yards, costing them the game. The team might have been adored by most and had a spectacular performance, but that one moment will be the albatross hanging around their neck throughout history.
I don't want to fall into the trap of thinking I am entitled to a better ending; it is their story and they can do with it as they wish. With a trilogy or any series of fiction, bad endings are just an inherent, unavoidable risk. But personally, if BioWare is going to pull something like this for the sake of speculation alone, why even get anywhere near as invested in any other game with similar writers? Why even give them the benefit of the doubt? At the moment, my thought is "If they are going to sweep the rug from under the players' feet with this much glee, I'll just spare myself the headache in the future entirely by not playing their games."
heliosRAzi
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I was just about to post that
Sums it up perfectly haha
Any number of relatively simple endings would have worked.
HAPPY ending: you get your EMS up, you get the galactic readiness up, you storm Earth, you fuck up the Reapers something nasty, you win. Garrus and Shep kick it in Rio with mai tais.
SAD ending: you get your EMS up to minimums, you get the galactic readiness up to minimums, you storm Earth, you fuck up the Reapers something nasty, you win, but Shepard dies in the battle. Big ol' galactic funeral for the dead savior.
DARK ending: you don't get EMS and readiness up enough, you storm Earth, the Reapers fuck up your shit, you flash-forward 50K years and see a new species (or two) uncovering one of Liara's data collection artifacts.
So simple. So easy. So much better than godchild. None of those above endings have to be any GOOD to be better than what we got. That's the worst part.
Besides the dog, is that genuine?
I know what you mean there is some really good stuff in the game, I even ended up really liking James, and I was determined to hate him during the run up to the games release. Tali committed suicide in my first playthrough, and I actually felt real guilt that my actions had led to the death of a character in a videogame.
I hope so. That way the damage will come full circle. After all ToR is a huge reason why the ME franchise suffered after 1 when they moved their lead writer to that game.
Lol. And to think I was honestly starting to change my tune about Walters. Midway through ME3 I thought to myself "Maybe the main ME2 story was just a fluke. This game is great so far". Couldn't have been more wrong.
Why wouldn't it be? Look Back a page or two for the source.
No, the proper football metaphor is that it's the end of the game, time has run out, a Hail Mary is thrown, Mac Walters catches it, rushes to the 99-yard, then suddenly turns left, runs out of the stadium into the parking lot and proceeds to do an interpretive dance on the importance of diversity.
Metaphor courtesy of EmCee
Yes, it's taken from the iOS app "The Final Hours of Mass Effect 3" (yours for the low price of $2.99!)
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