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Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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heliosRAzi
Banned
That's how I feel. There should be a happy ending, but it should be EARNED. It should be difficult to get it.
Trying to play through the older games just gives me a don't care feeling now because...what's the point? Everything gets fucked up and everyone likely dies anyway. Why am I going through making different choices for no reason? I'm sure not playing ME1 and 2 because of the addictive combat, that's for sure.
As for future DLC like EatChildren said it kind of hurts my ability to care about it. Using taking back omega as an example, I'll take it back, get like 100 war assets or something which don't mean anything with the current ending in place, and then it'll proceed to get blown up when the mass relay explodes. What's the point? The ending was that bad.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
That was great and I agree
That pretty much explains my problem with the ending story wise better then i ever could of. Thanks for linking that.
No.
With that said though the ending has kind of hurt the series as a whole for me.
Indeed, there's a disconnect between the words good (or suitable) -- whether sad or not -- and happy, which springs cheerfulness and glee.
I feel like the ends we saw are the ends we will only get.
There won't be any DLC to change it, unless six months from now BW announces/releases Mass Effect 3: Deflection ~ A True Kawaii End ~ in order to placate the ones who want that happy end.
Of course not. But ultimately, do you want to be burned in an explosion (Easter egg: you may not have died), electrocuted, or vaporized?
Since some folks brought up DA2...
The thing that killed that game for me (other than the ridiculous copy-paste dungeons) was the same thing that made the ME3 ending so terrible: the lack of the most obvious consequences for your actions. Support the mages at every single opportunity? Get attacked by mages all the time anyway!
The thing that killed that game for me (other than the ridiculous copy-paste dungeons) was the same thing that made the ME3 ending so terrible: the lack of the most obvious consequences for your actions. Support the mages at every single opportunity? Get attacked by mages all the time anyway!
lastplayed
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But who leads this rebuild? The Council is gone, Earth's government is gone, fleets are destroyed. It'll probably cause more splintering and infighting than Europe's dark age ever did.
More people need to read this. This guy used writer's language to explain why the ending was so bad and why it' was a "no ending."
To me the best criticism of ending so far.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but weren't you the one who came in here with the detailed impressions about how the ending didn't bother you?
Goddamn, this ending man...it just has a hold on people. The more you think about it, the more you hate it
zyxwvu4321
Member
Exactly. The "default" should be something bittersweet, like BioWare claims to have wanted. But the option should also be out there to earn a BIG GODDAMN HEROES ending, as well as being able to take your FailShep through and watch the Reapers win.
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Deleted member 81567
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It's actually quite ambiguous. I feel they might do it, but it won't be very fleshed out. Just a short DLC with a few waves of enemies and a cheesy ending to satisfy fans.
Depends on the amount of feedback they gather.
They could just keep plugging their ears and throwing out random NY Times quotes about how amazing their games is though.
Wait, From Ashes costs 10 dollars. I bought the Witcher for less than that.
And Lair of the Shadow Broker is still 10 dollars, whereas you can buy the entire ME2 on steam for 20 dollars.
I have a crazy theory. I think Bioware/EA created a shitty ending just so they could create a new DLC ending so more people would buy it.
This right here. That is exactly the feeling I get now since i started playing Mass Effect again.
Pretty much to sum it up the galaxy more or less gets fucked anyway so what does it matter if I do this or do that.
And have the head mage turn into a horrific monster. Also, it's implied he supported the serial killer that butchered Hawke's mom and turned her into Frankeinstein's bride. "Not all mages are bad!" *bioware goes out of their way to make them all look bad* So Meredith is justified in her paranoia! No wait, this artifact here is responsible for her crazy ass. It also morphs her into a monster!
Fuck that game.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Rajik was a soldier, not a scientist, being prothean didn't give him the knowledge by default. Just like EDI might have reaper tech as part of her, that doesn't mean she has the knowledge of the reapers.
And nothing standing in the way? How about resources? Where is all the eezo and materials going to come to rebuild all this? Earth was seriously devoid of resources before the war. You now have a whole galactic fleet to feed. Some of which can't even eat the same food as the others.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Denial stage.
Plus, I never stated I liked the ending, simply that I didn't feel it was as bad as GAF hyped it up to be, nor 'series destroying' or other such nonsense. Which I still stand by, the latter anyhow. The ending didn't ruin my playthrough of Mass Effect 3, and it certainly didn't ruin the series, not by a long shot.
Over time though I've come to realise how badly BioWare missed the mark, and what a poor finish it was for the trilogy.
An all-time terrible ending is all that matters. A mediocre ending that doesn't completely destroy the game's universe wouldn't have caused any of these feelings for me and I would just proceed like normal with all DLC and future games.
LowEndTorque
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Has this been posted yet?
Mass Effect 3 ending sparks FTC complaints
thread moves too fast, too lazy to check.
Mass Effect 3 ending sparks FTC complaints
thread moves too fast, too lazy to check.
When the games are all about your choices and the ending invalidates your choices...
Yes, and even the most fanatical people over on BSN think hes absurd and taking it too far.
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Deleted member 81567
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Yep. Might be too far.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't think they'll change, add or do anything, and if they do, it will be some stupid shit that doesn't really solve any problem. The only way to properly 'fix' the ending is to delete everything that happens once that platform starts floating and re-write the whole damn thing, and that is definitely not going to happen.
That's one of the biggest downers. EMS is useless, so there's no incentive to play the mission to bulk up your army. There's no closure or epilogue, so even if you 'take back Omega' it doesn't really matter. Had EMS actually been important you'd want to play it. Had the game provided an epilogue ala old school WRPGs, panning across various worlds and locations to show how they changed/developed right after the war ended, you'd have incentive to buy DLC, as that would add in a new slide/sequence of lore.
The only reason to buy the DLC will be if you legitimately enjoy the compartmentalised gameplay and want to see a specific story arc resolved in the time frame of ME3. That will be enough for me, though I suspect it wont be for many others.
The fridge logic is what really does it for some people.
I think the only way they can fix anything is by apologizing that they subverted the premise of Mass Effect for the vagueness of a brave new broken world. Of course, that won't happen. I'm not hoping for an apology, I'm not that entitled.
Rebel Leader
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Because you were expecting it..
Well, that's stupid.
LowEndTorque
Member
It is too far/out of hand. It's like an internet meltdown manifesting in real life. I just can't believe that 65K has been raised to change the ending. Cray. How about take that money and go feed some homeless people or something.
Freeza Under The Shower
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you know those Quantum Entanglement Devices the Normandy has two of? Works across the entire universe, yet they could not come up with a way to create long distance calls?
(sent out drone with one pair, wait X years for someone to pick up the phone, talk)
It would literally not even take a century for them to rebuild with their technological (in the lore, that is) level. All those omni-tools still work, there is the most advanced ship of the Alliance right there on planet REBOOT and if you're lucky, you get some excellent engineers and an AI with it.
Seriously, the only way they could possibly fail, is if they killed each other two days later or all had a collective brainfart unlike any other.
making the whole Casper speech moot, AGAIN.
edit: I'm not saying it would be the same right of the bat, but it would not be that hard to get everything you need and rebuild with the available tech and knowledge of it. You'ld be surprised what (real) people can figure out when they have to.
And if we assume that everyone starves to death because they forgot to fire their engines in the general direction of a previously scanned planet, well then they deserved to starve, because then they are idiots.
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Only in the worst ending (everyone dies).
Sigh, my thoughts as well. I still love Mass Effect 1, and 2, and hell...3, but given the ending of it all, it feels like all those "important" choices mean absolutely nothing now.
It's had to describe the sort of flow the story takes. There isn't really any branching options. It doesn't matter if I choose Udina or Anderson for the council, shit ends up the same. It doesn't matter if I kill the rachni or not, shit ends up the same, and so on and so on.
EmCeeGramr
Member
The money is going to Child's Play, a charity.
I agree though that that stuff is really crazy and silly.
Psychoward
Banned
It is too far, but, sadly, he is right.
It's going to charity.
edit: Beaten.
Ironically, that to me is the best ending. It at least has some closure if you look at the explosion as being final. It burns everyone and everything on Earth, but the Reapers are gone and everyone is left with getting on with his/her life. It doesn't have any weird attachments like the synthetic or control endings. The galaxy is left to start anew in the dark age.
Give it time.
I just beat it too like 30 minutes ago.
It's really bad. It's good up until you get that little kid but after that it goes to sh*t.
Sucks, because unlike most of GAF I really enjoyed the story to the rest of ME3. Space Child screws up everything though..
Dacon
Banned
That's gonna take a looooooooooooong time.
Yeah I'll be there too but I'll be pouting like a 10 year old girl the whole time unless the ending's fixed. Even with this ending it would at least be something if all the war assets you gathered made some sort of difference in the space battle above Earth and the London parts. At the very least show me some extra cutscene footage that shows some of the more special assets I obtained.
Psychoward
Banned
That ending doesn't exist though.
Earth gets blown up, but everything else seemed to be fine.
I'm pretty sure most people loved the rest of the game as well.
No, we pretty much all love everything but the ending too. Which is what makes it all the more terrible.
I'll say this: In this series it matters more, because of the emphasis on choice and tailoring your own story, even though they don't carry over when they have the potential to influence the scenario.
I don't usually replay games. I move on to the next thing right away. I'd rather read articles on a game or reminisce than outright start it up again. That, if at all, comes usually much later. I started ME1 and ME2 up right after I finished them, just to see what happens if I did things differently. I bought every piece of DLC for ME2, however inane (and justified it with left over BW points, I'm weak).
I have no such desire for ME3. The ending just deflated my interest in playing the game again. Aside from a bunch of relatively minor niggles it was great, up until the ending. I won't be touching any DLC after this, that's for sure. I might watch Youtube videos of some scenes to see how they play out in different configurations.
tl;dr: The series always had minor to major faults, but I liked it a lot despite all those. The ending to ME3 sent it off the edge for me.
Jake Tower
Banned
Let 'em have their fun, Javik.
LowEndTorque
Member
well then, I guess some good is coming out of this after all
looks like Bioware did a good deed by botching the ending.
MotionBlue
Member
One of the most bothersome things in ME3 was the Geth.
ME2 Legion: We wish to self-determinate, and refused the Old Machines gifts
ME3 Legion: Uh oh, Quarians are here! Better get help from the Old Machines that hate us.
ME2 Legion: We wish to self-determinate, and refused the Old Machines gifts
ME3 Legion: Uh oh, Quarians are here! Better get help from the Old Machines that hate us.
Citation, please.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Imagine if ME3 had three distinct endings based on decisions made all the way back in ME1? That would give you a reason to actually dig up a copy of ME1 and replay the entire series. Now, all I'm really playing is the multiplayer and that's because of the slot machines.
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