Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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A combination of things: All the talk from Aria, plus the fact that there was originally supposed to be a mission on Omega.

Add to it that it's an obvious place to stage a stand-alone DLC package and you can see how people are adding 1+1 and getting 2.

What would be the point of playing it now we know it'll make no difference and be cut off from the rest of the galaxy at the end? Good luck growing crops on an asteroid in hard vaccuum.
 
What's the Kai Leng/Cereal meme about? I want in on the joke.
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Ooh, so that's where the rumor about Aria being a temporary squadmate originated from? Guess she will be in that DLC just like Liara was in Shadow Broker.

Great, i love Aria. Best Asari ever(sorry Liara, you're #2!)

Aethyta the Asari matriarch bartender laughs at Aria's arrogance.

I'd like to add that while I have nothing against Femshep you guys are fools.
 
Actually... what was the default crucible setting? It has to be control right? I mean no one would make a device that kills the reapers where the only way to get it to kill the reapers is to shoot a big ass pipe and blow the entire thing to shit.

maybe default setting blocks the indoctrination signal meaning no reapers ground forces so can the fleets and ground force can focus on destroy the big ships.
 
I still can't believe the ending...ugh. I beat it Saturday eve...I just...fuck.

Like, I couldn't even have one last conversation with Harbinger? Instead I get fucking space kid? Really?

The rest of the game was great...I even enjoyed Marauder Shields and the fact I was all fucked up at the end. I liked where that was going...the hardship, the sacrifice. This was the hardest thing Shep had ever faced!

Could you imagine of my Shep was colour blind? How could he even choose properly?!

I didn't need a happy ending; I expected Shepard to die all along, to be honest. But fuck...really?

The whole thing is too mind-numbingly derp to comprehend and now all I have is the empty satisfaction of blaming EA's corporate whoring and Bioware's slide down shit-mountain for ME's conclusion.

Gah!
 
Shame Wrex is most probably stranded on Earth now and not able to go back to Tuchanka to make babies, WHICH I WORKED SO HARD TO ACCOMPLISH. Fuck sake, Bioware.
 
I still can't believe the ending...ugh. I beat it Saturday eve...I just...fuck.

Like, I couldn't even have one last conversation with Harbinger? Instead I get fucking space kid? Really?

The rest of the game was great...I even enjoyed Marauder Shields and the fact I was all fucked up at the end. I liked where that was going...the hardship, the sacrifice. This was the hardest thing Shep had ever faced!

Could you imagine of my Shep was colour blind? How could he even choose properly?!

I didn't need a happy ending; I expected Shepard to die all along, to be honest. But fuck...really?

The whole thing is too mind-numbingly derp to comprehend and now all I have is the empty satisfaction of blaming EA's corporate whoring and Bioware's slide down shit-mountain for ME's conclusion.

Gah!

It's best if you just end the game after you get laserbeamed and then write your own ending.
 
This is a lie perpetrated by crazy people. Jennifer Hale is terrible in Mass Effect.

OBJECTION!!!

I'm playing as male shepard as my second run through and I sorely miss her performance, when a moment comes up again, it just doesn't click like it did when playing as Katherine Shepard.
 
It's not just female Shepard, I cringe when I watch YouTube videos of any Shepard that isn't mine. That's what BioWare did so well.
The red eyed shepard is even worse. I can understand your shepard is a renegade/ tough guy, but what is with the silly red eyes. I agree with you though, anyone that is not Christian Shepard seems like a knockoff. My shep looks better than cannon shep in many respects.
 
Walker's What's right with Mass Effect 3's ending.

I am giving it a shot, I am always open for positive views on it (that is not senseless defending)

More "It's the journey, not the destination" crap. Goes on to say that are choices did matter in the end, when that is untrue, as we do not say, see any instance of, Rachni kicking husk ass, or Geth fighters doing there thing, etc.

He defends the Catalyst picking the vent kid as an appearance because it affected Shepard emotionally...but we are Shepard. And most people don't give a fuck about the kid.

"Don't like options? Deal with it"

Yeah okay, whatever.

"I'm okay with the made up sci-fi nonsense"

So yeah no defense at all.
 
Just completed it.

Actually don't know wtf i did at the end as the AI bored me to tears so much that i forgot which one did which.

I went to the left one, the reapers buggered off and then the credits rolled and i got Grandpa.

Fuck you Bioware.
 
John Walker's What's right with Mass Effect 3's ending.

I am giving it a shot, I am always open for positive views on it (that is not senseless defending)

I think most people acknowledge the great job ME3 did in illustrating player choice throughout the game. It is just the fact the ending negates any changes made during the game that makes it so unsatisfying. Sure, Walker may have brought peace to the Turians and Krogan and all of the story progression from ME1 and ME2 may have influenced his decision to choose synthesis, but ultimately, those choices mean little in the galactic sense because of what happened to the relays. Either Arrival's lore holds true and ALL of the species involved, their homeworlds, and a good deal of their colonies have been entirely wiped out OR the Catalyst's beam negates Arrivals lore in which the bulk of the species are stranded on Earth where they will either starve or simply never be able to see their homes again. Hell, if we go by what the ending shows us, we can assume the entire galactic fleet was knocked offline by the relay blast (akin to what happened to the Normandy) so FTL travel may not even be an option (and repairs may be out of the question with Earth in utter ruins below).

Ultimately, ME3 did a great job of providing me with a sense of accomplishment right up until to threw all of your decisions out of the window.
 
What's the point though? Even if Omega does not blow up when the relays explode, the ensuing chaos created by the events at Earth will most likely lead to some sort of civil war where everyone dies on Omega when the realization that all their supplies are now cut off.

Also seeing Omega was right next to a relay, why wouldn't a Reaper just pop in, laserbeamofdeath it and continue on? There's no way the merc fleets around there would be enough to stop one.

Why should we care anyway? I'm going to back to fucking Omega(love that place in ME2) to kill stuff with Aria! I'm not gonna worry about damn Reapers during that time or how fucked up the galaxy will be in the end, if Bioware never changes it.

As to why Reapers would ignore Omega, i dunno. Maybe being on an asteroid makes it easy to go unnoticed.
 
I think one of the biggest problems with the VA is so much of it seems spliced together.

STEEEEVE sounded fine when Steve died.

STEEEVE...You sure? did not sound fine and you can tell that it was two sound bits spliced together based on that choice.

I think this is the problem with most of the game, they record parts, then splice them together to fill in the dialogue based on the choices you made, which is why it can go from emotional to just flat in the same instance.
 
Can we not get into another Meer vs. Hale discussion again? It has been done so many times before and it ultimately comes down to player preference. You either like Male Shepard and Mark Meer or you hate them. You either feel Female Shepard is the only choice and Jennifer Hale is the essence of ME or you couldn't imagine ME with either of them. IMO, it is a testament to Bioware's ability to connect the player with their Shepard and personalize the ME universe.
 
Just completed it.

Actually don't know wtf i did at the end as the AI bored me to tears so much that i forgot which one did which.

I went to the left one, the reapers buggered off and then the credits rolled and i got Grandpa.

Fuck you Bioware.

Welcome to the neogaf support group. Hugs are $14.99. Please enjoy your stay.
 
Can we not get into another Meer vs. Hale discussion again? It has been done so many times before and it ultimately comes down to player preference. You either like Male Shepard and Mark Meer or you hate them. You either feel Female Shepard is the only choice and Jennifer Hale is the essence of ME or you couldn't imagine ME with either of them. IMO, it is a testament to Bioware's ability to connect the player with their Shepard and personalize the ME universe.

I was about to say, but at least it's breaking the rut this thread had gotten in.
 
John Walker's What's right with Mass Effect 3's ending.

I am giving it a shot, I am always open for positive views on it (that is not senseless defending)

"It's the journey that matters"
"The space magic is nonsense, but all the game is sci fi nonsense as well, so it's ok"
"I'm not a crazy person that dissects everything that happens in the game, like you crazy people"
"You are probably supposed to hate the endings anyway"
"There IS choice, you choose red, green or blue, duh"
"I didn't need to think through what happens after I choose an ending, I just think that it matters because what I chose during the game matters"
"It's better than just ambiguously fading to black with no answer at all" (well, no shit)

I found it really hard to agree with almost anything he said.
 
Can we not get into another Meer vs. Hale discussion again? It has been done so many times before and it ultimately comes down to player preference. You either like Male Shepard and Mark Meer or you hate them. You either feel Female Shepard is the only choice and Jennifer Hale is the essence of ME or you couldn't imagine ME with either of them. IMO, it is a testament to Bioware's ability to connect the player with their Shepard and personalize the ME universe.

You're right. Let's go with this.
Back to ending hate.
 
Can we not get into another Meer vs. Hale discussion again? It has been done so many times before and it ultimately comes down to player preference. You either like Male Shepard and Mark Meer or you hate them. You either feel Female Shepard is the only choice and Jennifer Hale is the essence of ME or you couldn't imagine ME with either of them. IMO, it is a testament to Bioware's ability to connect the player with their Shepard and personalize the ME universe.

I posted literally irrefutable evidence that Mark Meer is better than Jennifer Hale, not my problem Femshep Fanbabies are experiencing cognitive dissonance.
 
He already did, luckily.

Unfortunately it means nothing since Wrex was likely the sole force that kept Krogan tribes from tearing each other apart.

But what do I know I am just speculatin'. Maybe they all got along just fine after the news the mass relays exploded.
 
John Walker's What's right with Mass Effect 3's ending.

I am giving it a shot, I am always open for positive views on it (that is not senseless defending)

My biggest gripe though isn't that the choices I made over the course of three massive games aren't reflected in the game's ending, but it's that the game ended on the laziest deus ex machina, one which didn't make a ton of sense in the context of the game and left many players confused when it should have brought closure.
Having an omniscient character introduced in the last 15 minutes of the game and quicly explaining exactly wtf is going on also felt cheap and unimaginative, just like Big Boss's long monologue at the end of MGS4. And, much like ME2's ending, it was surprisingly emotionally uninvolving for a game that includes so many likeable characters.
 
More "It's the journey, not the destination" crap. Goes on to say that are choices did matter in the end, when that is untrue, as we do not say, see any instance of, Rachni kicking husk ass, or Geth fighters doing there thing, etc.

I haven't seen a lot people complaining about the actual game, it's only the last 15 minutes that completely fucks everything up and leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth and shrugging indifference towards the setting because everything you do before the battle is made completely obsolete by how things are wrapped up.

Why would I give two fucks about potentially being able to retake the Omega station, when I know it'll just be blown to fucking pieces when the Omega relay next to it blows up at the end of the game?
 
Want me to give a fuck about a kid you only met 2 min ago before he dies while im a stone cold soldier.

If you really wanted to force to feel for him he should have appeared in ME 1 or ME 2 as a tunnel rat that got onto the Normandy and Shepard let him stay. And let a connection grow as if he sees Shepard as a uncle/aunt. Because just like in real life i don't really have a emotional reaction about people dying that aren't close to me.
 
Can we not get into another Meer vs. Hale discussion again? It has been done so many times before and it ultimately comes down to player preference. You either like Male Shepard and Mark Meer or you hate them. You either feel Female Shepard is the only choice and Jennifer Hale is the essence of ME or you couldn't imagine ME with either of them. IMO, it is a testament to Bioware's ability to connect the player with their Shepard and personalize the ME universe.

Sure people might not be able to imagine Mass Effect without a Hale voiced Femashep, but that doesn't make the any less wrong. Male shep had infinitely more Gifs then Femshep automatically making him better.
 
He defends the Catalyst picking the vent kid as an appearance because it affected Shepard emotionally...but we are Shepard. And most people don't give a fuck about the kid.

Someone posted a comic earlier depicting how it doesn't even make sense for it to affect Shepard, especially Renegade/Asshole Shepard.

Losing a trusted camarade on Virmire? No problem.
Being for the genophage, killing Mordin, then killing Wrex, and consciously dooming an entire species? Hell yeah.
Watching Tali off herself? Everyday!

But that damn kid whom you spoke 2 lines with in a ventilation canal? T_T WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE KIDDO
 
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