It's okay, she mind raped Shep. The asari babies will all have Shepard as the 'father.'
Of course the problem is when those asari babies all inbreed and after a century you have a colony of ardat yakshi . . .
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Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Thread |OT2| Taste the Rainbow
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It's okay, she mind raped Shep. The asari babies will all have Shepard as the 'father.'
Of course the problem is when those asari babies all inbreed and after a century you have a colony of ardat yakshi . . .
Can't they just mend with the local wildlife?
Is it even possible?
HadesGigas
Member
Liara seemed pretty determined to find Shepard last time they died, so she'd probably not settle down on the jungle planet unless it was impossible to leave it.
If they can mend with species from other planets, I don't see why not. We are all animals after all.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Wow! I finally read that blog post.
Artistic integrity? lol, my word. As if calling something art is some kind of excuse for it being demonstrably poor and slapdash.
Deadly Cyclone, I went in with my perspective coloured by the negative reaction to the ending as well. And for a while I thought "Wow, what a bizarre overreaction!" While not great, the final mission and moments of the game were passable, though I did have a dreaded feeling that things weren't thought out too well. I could overlook Shepard bizarrely making it to the Citadel, and even Anderson 'following him up', and even TIM appearing out of the blue!
And then Star Child appears... It really seems to me that a handful of people at Bioware experienced a 'Emperor Has No Clothes' moment.
Empty Space
Member
I never thought about this. Its all kinds of creepy.
Don't worry we'll find out she also had a PhD in engineering so that she could repair the ship and that Asaris can transform plants into space ship parts.
Felix Lighter
Member
heliosRAzi
Banned
So is Joker's hat
EmCeeGramr
Member
Then they'll write Mass Effect 4: Starring Liara, the Canonical Wife of John Shepard, Soldier.
HadesGigas
Member
She wasn't the only one on the ship with Joker. Though does anyone know exactly how they determine who walks out of the ship? Different people do even in the same kind of ending for people?
heliosRAzi
Banned
Joker always walks out, then I think EDI always does if they hooked up and it's not the Destroy ending, then your LI. If Joker and EDI didn't hook up or you picked Destroy, I think the second person is random, as is the third if Shepard had no time for love.
Psychoward
Banned
Spacer, War Hero, best friend was Garrus Vakarian
The Jacob Taylor Chronicles
It'll just be one cerberus level and you fight waves of spawning enemies for fifty hours.
HadesGigas
Member
Jacob escapes the Citidel, waits 6 months to hear from his pregnant girlfriend who was on the Cruicible, goes and fucks something else.
GOTY.
Finished the game about 3:30 a.m., so I really wasn't following much of the starchild's dialogue or logic. I think I was still more pissed about the god awful combat encounters defending the missiles, but that's another point altogether.
That being said. I chose the blue option and everyone knows where that went. I went back and watched the other two endings on YouTube and not much difference, but whatever. Without thinking too much about the logic of the starchild, I liked the ending. Sheppard has to die, I think, no matter what. They did that. Even though it was cheapened a bit by Mass Effect 2's storyline. And I don't mind not having all of the answers. In fact, I wish the reaper origins were never explained. I'd rather they just be a force of nature that shows up every 50K years.
The indoctrination theory does make sense. But reading through the Google Doc posted, some of the things are extremely nitpicky. In fact, everything about Sheppard and Anderson being knocked out the Alliance forces thinking everyone is dead is nitpicky. That's no more evidence of indoctrination than the Alliance being in such disarray they can't find their people on the ground. But some of it does hold true.
Overall, I think I like what they TRIED to do with the ending. It was downtrodden, depressing and had consequences for the whole galaxy. But I think they handled it extremely poorly. It almost reminds me a bit of The Matrix trilogy's ending. It's trying to be intelligent and provocative, but fails at doing so.
That being said. I chose the blue option and everyone knows where that went. I went back and watched the other two endings on YouTube and not much difference, but whatever. Without thinking too much about the logic of the starchild, I liked the ending. Sheppard has to die, I think, no matter what. They did that. Even though it was cheapened a bit by Mass Effect 2's storyline. And I don't mind not having all of the answers. In fact, I wish the reaper origins were never explained. I'd rather they just be a force of nature that shows up every 50K years.
The indoctrination theory does make sense. But reading through the Google Doc posted, some of the things are extremely nitpicky. In fact, everything about Sheppard and Anderson being knocked out the Alliance forces thinking everyone is dead is nitpicky. That's no more evidence of indoctrination than the Alliance being in such disarray they can't find their people on the ground. But some of it does hold true.
Overall, I think I like what they TRIED to do with the ending. It was downtrodden, depressing and had consequences for the whole galaxy. But I think they handled it extremely poorly. It almost reminds me a bit of The Matrix trilogy's ending. It's trying to be intelligent and provocative, but fails at doing so.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Wouldn’t be the first time she’s pulled a new skill out of her ass.Vamphuntr said:
“Becoming the head of a successful criminal organization is just like archeology, amirite?”
One already exists.WonkersTHEWatilla said:
StalkerUKCG
Banned
While we are on the subject of being angry at mass effect/bioware/EA, this is something that has annoyed me for a long time.
Okay some the release schedules would of been kind of messed up but still the current stuff its terrible.
And next time we get non-customizable armour can we PLEASE have it well spec'd, in fact just make it custom items pieces still.
Okay some the release schedules would of been kind of messed up but still the current stuff its terrible.
And next time we get non-customizable armour can we PLEASE have it well spec'd, in fact just make it custom items pieces still.
"I'm a reaper doomsday device!" 'beepbeepeepeep' "oh shiiiii"
Space Jesus, I spit coffee.
And this is fantastic, for about 60% of it. His early criticism mirrored the notes I was keeping by the pc as I was playing. However it loses focus on trivial crap.
Oh shit I forgot that his girlfriend was probably on the Citadel when it blew up. Ugh, That's sad.
Please explain how the two choices have anything to do with each other.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Troll Javik is amazing. The good thing is, he is totally like that in the game, those comics are not even a parody, they are the real thing.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Another pretty good summation of why the ending doesn't follow the series' precedents and how the ending fails at providing resolution that I thought hit some spot-on points.
http://jmstevenson.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/all-that-matters-is-the-ending-part-2-mass-effect-3/
Honestly, I think like the Final Hours app said, they were toying with Indoc. theory, but ran out of time to make it work, hence why some of the more easily spottable 'hints' are still in there.
http://jmstevenson.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/all-that-matters-is-the-ending-part-2-mass-effect-3/
Honestly, I think like the Final Hours app said, they were toying with Indoc. theory, but ran out of time to make it work, hence why some of the more easily spottable 'hints' are still in there.
heliosRAzi
Banned
You, as a Paragon, cannot side with a war mongering race, but you cured the genophage for the krogan, a war mongering race.
Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
Also, it was stated in ME3 that the quarian civilians don't support the war against the geth and want to make peace and they comprise most of the quarian flotilla. So...
So good.
heliosRAzi
Banned
skoolmunkee on Something Awful in the ME3 spoiler thread
BuckRobotron
Member
This. But I just moved on, each player makes his choices/reasoning.
Empty Space
Member
So he made his decisions based on his opinions and what he thought was right. That's the point of Mass Effect, so what's the argument?
Mutanthands
Member
So...
My wife and I just finished our playthrough. She chose the control ending. I immediately showed her the "taste the rainbow" ending comparison video afterwards.
She talks about how she "enjoyed the story of the entire series," but she's being quite evasive in her uniquely Japanese way about what she thinks about the ending. Not a useful bit of information yet.
I'm afraid she gonna pull a Florida Evans at dinner tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUwcCp7LPE
My wife and I just finished our playthrough. She chose the control ending. I immediately showed her the "taste the rainbow" ending comparison video afterwards.
She talks about how she "enjoyed the story of the entire series," but she's being quite evasive in her uniquely Japanese way about what she thinks about the ending. Not a useful bit of information yet.
I'm afraid she gonna pull a Florida Evans at dinner tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUwcCp7LPE
HadesGigas
Member
Krogan became warlike due to Salarian interference. Granted they were probably somewhat like that already, but the whole nuclear armageddon thing was due to the Salarians wanting to use them. (Then you see the Salarians are about to try the same damn thing with Yahg, morons)
Both stories you can see krogan and geth as the victims who deserve a chance at peaceful existence. Of course you can take the other side of the issue and still be justified too.
Edit: whoops guess my thinking on the timeline was a bit messed.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
YES! Now is time to save it!
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Hahaha, Javik is the best new character . Making him dlc is one of the worst decision they made with this game
Genetic algorithms are cool, but I'm not sure how much sense it would make in the context of Reapers. GAs really are just a means of search (technically most of AI can be thought of like this, though I suppose evolution as well) where you have an objective function that evaluates the quality of something and the search method uses techniques like biology's cross-over to combine local solutions of the better solutions that already exist in a population and thus produce new solutions. It uses "mutation" to add an element of stochastic search so that entire search space can be explored given infinite time (though locally optimal solutions will probably make this exceedingly difficult). However, often times, the newly created solutions are worse than the former (this is especially true as time progresses) and so the gain of cross over and mutation is only found across many generations where each new solution is evaluated itself and chosen for selection due to its superiority or ignored.
Given that, I don't think using the genetics of organics really plays into the genetic algorithm paradigm because there is no subsequent evaluation of newly integrated organic DNA and subsequent selection from it. They take it and are done with it. And if it's just variation they want, that's easily performed with "mutation."
At a bare minimum, it probably would have been better to keep their motivations a mystery unless they (Bioware) had some really ingenious idea.
Mutanthands
Member
No, no, no. The Krogan already had their nuclear war before Salarian contact. Because they're naturally war-like assholes.
Felix Lighter
Member
That happened before the Salarians uplifted them. That's just their nature.
UnluckyKate
Member
Too bad the handwritting is so bad I can't understand half of these on the first read
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Thats not good. Let she vent it now, if not she will explode and the anger will charge your way.
heliosRAzi
Banned
True, but if he's playing straight paragon, his choice comes off as out of character for his Shep. But I know he would have chosen the peace option if he could have.
behem0th x
Banned
I just finished the game... and yeah, totally hoping onto the wtf boat.