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Mass Effect |OT| Alien love in an elevator
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Memphis Reigns
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Mindlog said:
fuck that sucks
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Mindlog said:
:lol
Holy fucking shit! Better hope they don't carry that shit over to ME II!!
"You busted up that Geth compound pretty good, Shepard, but did you have to break that much furniture?"
"You tell me. You had a pretty good view from The Citadel."
Mammothtank
Member
Just beat it, seemed too short compared to KotoR. I wish there was more of an epilogue with my crew members, I miss them =(
Did anyone else notice how much the game has changed from when it was first being shown? There's nothing special about interrupting dialogue early, which was highlighted as a major feature of the dialogue system and instead serves only to skip. It seems they also did away with the tactical movement of your party.
Bioware really does need to let some other team do a combat system. They can craft engrossing worlds and characters, but combat seems to baffle them. The Mako missions also bored me to no end, hated that damn thing.
I prefered Kotor's dialogue system as well since there were choices that tied into your character's abilities such as repair and awareness. Bluffing your way out of trouble was alot more rewarding with the ol' persude ability than a flat, blue or red option.
Oh well, here's to ME 2...
Did anyone else notice how much the game has changed from when it was first being shown? There's nothing special about interrupting dialogue early, which was highlighted as a major feature of the dialogue system and instead serves only to skip. It seems they also did away with the tactical movement of your party.
Bioware really does need to let some other team do a combat system. They can craft engrossing worlds and characters, but combat seems to baffle them. The Mako missions also bored me to no end, hated that damn thing.
I prefered Kotor's dialogue system as well since there were choices that tied into your character's abilities such as repair and awareness. Bluffing your way out of trouble was alot more rewarding with the ol' persude ability than a flat, blue or red option.
Oh well, here's to ME 2...
revolverjgw
Member
Anyone else find Tali strangely attractive? Or at least I did before I noticed she had three fingers and Ninja Turtle toes. But man, those child bearing hips and that Slavic accent...
ToyMachine228
Member
Just got to the part where
you're about to assault Seran's base at Vermile. I used my Charm to save Wrex. Actually the first time, Ashley shot him without my permission. I was so pissed. Had to load my save because I didn't want to lose him. About 11 hours in. Liking it so far.
BudokaiMR2
Member
armubaba said:
I went through my first time as an adept with Tali and Garrus. It worked pretty well, although it was tough in the beginning until I got decent armor. In the end it worked out as a godly team though.
boredJonathan
Member
Well I finished the game earlier this week and was absolutely blown away by the crescendo of events that happen towards the end.
Anyways, I am starting up my second play through to see the game from the renegade side and also to see how things go as the male shepard. So far, the voice actor completely blows compaired to the female one, but I've been surprised by the amount of changes made in actions and such by switching to Renegade. Granted, a lot of it all ends up in the same place but its a nice effect.
I also noticed that if I wanted to I could leave Wrex entirely out of my party and actually turn down a lot of side quests by being such a xenophobic dick. Was curious how this would play out then in some of the later missions, and with some of the side quests too. I imagine you could skip getting Liara, and I think I could have also passed on Garrus if I had pushed the issue.
Also, since I am working on my second play through and using new characters... how do I unlock the Ally achievements? I got the one for Tali on my first play through but never for Wrex, despite going back and doing several more side quests with him in tow. I've read that it is tied to the completeionist achievement, but since you only get that once how do you unlock it for the other characters. Is there anyway I can still go back with Wrex and do a few more missions to unlock his achievement?
The single shot through the elevator, and then Shepard just stepping out like, 'Yeah I rock. I know.'
I also noticed that if I wanted to I could leave Wrex entirely out of my party and actually turn down a lot of side quests by being such a xenophobic dick. Was curious how this would play out then in some of the later missions, and with some of the side quests too. I imagine you could skip getting Liara, and I think I could have also passed on Garrus if I had pushed the issue.
Also, since I am working on my second play through and using new characters... how do I unlock the Ally achievements? I got the one for Tali on my first play through but never for Wrex, despite going back and doing several more side quests with him in tow. I've read that it is tied to the completeionist achievement, but since you only get that once how do you unlock it for the other characters. Is there anyway I can still go back with Wrex and do a few more missions to unlock his achievement?
Rabbit Lord
Member
armubaba said:
First play through(soldier) I used everyone except Kaiden, that kinda burned me I guess cause I didn't get any ally achievements. new game+ I'm using Ash and Garrus. They're both using Sniper rifles with the +dmg and 500% force/heating mods, so basically I have 2 rocket launchers as back up.
Ephemeris
Member
Red Mercury said:
Used Ash & Tali first time through. Currently in my 2nd and I have Wrex+Garrus.
Funny thing. Been using those two since the beginning, i just got the Turian Ally achievement during a sidequest (I've only done Feros and Noveria so far XD. Geez, have I been doing that many sidequests?) . I suppose the reason I don't have the Krogan one is because the character needs to complete
Vermire
To answer your question, it's tied to the completionist achievement in regards to the fact that to get the Completionist award, you have to complete the majority of the game's missions.
So basically, how the Ally awards work, you have to complete the majority of the game's missions (don't ignore those sidequests!) with said character in tow.
Captain Glanton
Banned
Sorry if this has been asked, but it's a big thread out there.
I think I screwed up.
Am I screwed? Are there other places to get the equipment?
I think I screwed up.
I got impounded at the Citadel at level 34, at which point I found out about about needing to get to level 36 to get to buy the good armor from the C-Spec Req Officer, etc. There weren't enough leftover quests at the Citadel to get me up to 36. So I went ahead and went to Ilos.
Am I screwed? Are there other places to get the equipment?
MaizeRage25
Member
armubaba said:
1st: Wrex and Tali
2nd: Garrus and Ash
BudokaiMR2
Member
Man I didn't get an ally achievement even though I used Garrus and Tila from the moment I got them in my squad and got the completionist achievement.
BudokaiMR2 said:Man I didn't get an ally achievement even though I used Garrus and Tila from the moment I got them in my squad and got the completionist achievement.
I'm guessing you'd have to finish every sidequest with them. I got the ally achievement for from Ashley my first time but not from Liara since I finished most of the Citadel quest before I left it for the first time.
MaizeRage25
Member
armubaba said:
What level are you?
Captain Glanton
Banned
LukeSmith said:I did this exact same thing. No indication of "don't go over there" whatsoever.
I'm still waiting for an explanation from the game about why it's called the Mako instead of Jumping Tree Frog.
arhra
Member
Remember that there are significant chunks of the game that occur before you even get a chance to pick Garrus or Tali up, especially if you sidequested on the Citadel - for everyone bar Kaiden and Ashley, you're best off skipping all the Citadel sidequests until you're done with the initial story missions there and have picked up your other party members (this is doubly true if you want the Asari Ally achievement, as you have to do all of the Citadel and Therum before you get Liara in your party).BudokaiMR2 said:Man I didn't get an ally achievement even though I used Garrus and Tila from the moment I got them in my squad and got the completionist achievement.
I'm working on Asari Ally and Quarian ally on my current play-through, and just got Quarian Ally near the end of Noveria (and i don't think i did any more sidequests with Tali than i did with Liara, so i should get Asari Ally once i hit up Virmire). Think i had ~40 sidequests completed at that point (although a couple of those were the collection quests, and i'm not sure if they count).
I think everyone does that. Consider it a kind of rite of passage. Although it's fairly obviously deep water, there's a boundary line or rocks, and it's clearly the edge of the area on your map screen. Not that any of that stopped me from doing it either...LukeSmith said:I did this exact same thing. No indication of "don't go over there" whatsoever.
I don't know about people who say you can't be truly evil as a Renegade. Some of the choices towards the mid-to-late parts of the game really made me sick, thinking that 'my guy' did that.
Killing all the people in those cells in the facility. Killing the Asari that the Thorian had used. Killing the doctor in the facility. Killing Fist...well that wasn't so bad. Just so much 'you don't deserve to live' stuff, and people said Shepard can't be evil? Some of it isn't even rationalized that well.
arhra
Member
People are comparing it to KotOR, though, which generally boiled down to a choice between being Mother Theresa or eating babies.Chrange said:
Pretty much all of what you talk about in your spoiler can be justified as being mercy killing, purely pragmatic/slightly paranoid, or simple justice in action.
And hell, for the Asari doctor on Virmire, the 'paragon' choice is essentially "i'm about to nuke the facility. Hope you can run fast!" :lol
Son of Godzilla
Banned
Chrange said:
Eh, aside from keeping the Salarian locked away, none of that is particularly evil. And even then, locking up the dude is obviously justified as there's a fucking Salarian in the room across the hall that tries to kill you if you open his cage.
I think the most enjoyable asshole moments come from talking with Benezia. That and having Wrex in your party for the bit just after her.
Son of Godzilla said:
Garrus and Wrex is pretty awesome if you take the evil path in that bit. Goes [paraphrased]:
Garrus: We can't just commit genocide! This is why we went to war with the krog - oh.
Wrex: You want to see genocide, turian? I'll take you to see a krogan obstetricians office.
Wrex: You want to see genocide, turian? I'll take you to see a krogan obstetricians office.
Tieno
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I had Tali and Wrex with me during the Noveria and Benezia part.AniHawk said:
Wrex was making the argument that I should kill the creature because of the past wars, while Tali said it's not right to kill such a remarkable creature and an entire species with it. She already gave me a bit shit when I had to kill that Thorian, saying she was sad that such an old creature was gone even though it was evil. I stood there weighing the options, didn't want to disappoint Wrex because he's great, but Talia made a good argument too. In the end I went with Talia, the queen was fascinating in the way she talked to me and the queen didn't seem evil to me. Wrex was really pissed off. And then at the debriefing I got shit from the council too. It really felt like it carried weight
Tieno said:
Are you confusing Tali with Liara? Because when I played that, Tali made a different argument. Something like
"That chamber will be flooded with acid strong enough to kill anything inside it. It's obvious that whoever was studying this really did not want it to get away."
Son of Godzilla
Banned
Tali impressd me somewhat given I was only dragging her ass through the game for decryption and hacking. For basically all of the quest choice things you getTieno said:
she acts like a complete hypocrite given her stance on the Geth, and I'm pretty certain you or one of the other characters calls her on her Let The Poor Sentient Being Live bullshit eventually. Of course I don't think anything came from that, but I was impressed nonetheless.
Uncle- When you get choices that the characters will comment on I think the characters split between renegade/paragon or whichever/neutral if they are both mostly one. So doing something with a goody twoshoes like Liara in your party makes everyone else that would have gone Paragon just fuddle about.
At the end of the game during my renegade run,
I had no problem killing the council. While I was a paragon, they didn't seem all that bad and I felt like I had to do the right thing and save them. But when you're a renegade, man are they ever bitchy. Pretty great "oh shit" moment aboard the Ascension too. At the end I chose Anderson as the chairman of the new human council. Don't fuck with humanity.
arhra
Member
All the different characters seem to have some sort of rating along the paragon/renegade scale(s), and it generally tries to give you an argument from each perspective, so picks accordingly depending on their relative leanings, so depending on who you bring along, one character can argue one way in one game, then the other in the next. They reuse lines in a few cases, too, so as in this case, you can have Tali say something that Liara said previously.Uncle said:
So if you use Tali/Liara, Liara will take the paragon position and Tali the renegade, but if you use Wrex/Tali, Wrex takes the renegade and Tali the paragon.
I got the 60th level achievement last night. I was about 20k xp short after I finished my second playthrough (!) so I started a new one and grinded that 20k quick :lol In total it took about 58 hours total playtime to go from 1-60. 59-60 is equal to about 1/4 the TOTAL XP from 1-60. :lol
Now I am starting a new one as a female adept (first was a male soldier). The game feels totally different with the female lead. I still have no desire to skip any dialog.
Now I am starting a new one as a female adept (first was a male soldier). The game feels totally different with the female lead. I still have no desire to skip any dialog.