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[ChuckeRearmed]

The arms protected by the Second Amendment are meant to be of use in a war. The amendment begins by explaining its own purpose.

Of course, their goal was not to create a society where nothing bad could ever possibly happen, but to safeguard against the eradication of liberty. They relied upon the moral character of the society to keep the 'bad events' to a tolerably low level.

If that moral character has now gone to the point that liberty is too costly to preserve, the Constitution includes a mechanism for altering itself.

Gun control is just a way to control the people. Because the big government always wants to have a monopoly on violence.

It is like like jailing people for media posts in attempt to "fight racism", blocking squares / cancelling Christmas events to tackle "islamist violence" or trying to ban guns to solve "gun violence" or trying to ban knives (hello UK). "Hey, less people will die next it happens so we won!" and pat each other backs. While gradually restricting human activities.

It is a mental health issue. Just like religious fundamentalism is kinda a mental issue too. What is the probability of a shooter to pop up among a crowd of those who think they are an opposite gender? Or among those who believe that everybody else is an infidel? Add social media that glorifies and amplifies violence as a good thing against people you don't like. Mental issue + recognition from people online => a diabolical mixture.

Europe is filled with weapons, yet no one is letting kids grow up using weapons the way they do in America

Europe is more into terrorists having guns only and cars running through people /s

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

A common trait is that they grew up using guns. And then they slowly go hateful against people while watching videos of killings on the internet.

Europe is filled with weapons, yet no one is letting kids grow up using weapons the way they do in America. There are young people hunting and practicing professional shooting, but taking kids to ranges to shoot automatic weapons, having any sort of weapon lying unlocked at home or any sort of "fun casual shooting" would be considered horrible parenting.

If these kids didn't grow up using weapons and weren't exposed to killing videos, it would drastically reduce this evil. They literally sit and study the countless other school shooting videos that are, for some reason, all over the fucking internet. Why these aren't removed makes no sense.

I am 58 years old and hunted since I was a kid with my dad and grandfather so have been around guns my entire life and try going to any range and firing an automatic weapon and see what happens to you

These kids studying these killing videos are broken people

I travel a lot between Indiana and Florida mostly by car and I pass a lot of people traveling 70+ mph using their phones and see all the time on local news about distracted drivers so I feel I have a much better chance of getting killed by a distracted driver than I do by some crazy with a gun

Sadly no one is screaming about a simple fix of disabling phones when a car is moving

Doesn't Australia have strict gun laws?

Check the news

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I travel a lot between Indiana and Florida mostly by car and I pass a lot of people traveling 70+ mph using their phones and see all the time on local news about distracted drivers so I feel I have a much better chance of getting killed by a distracted driver than I do by some crazy with a gun

I think statistically you do have a better chance of getting killed by a car. Plus how many people due to illegal truckers and stuff. Yet somehow giving licenses to those who can't read the sign is less of a problem than guns

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I think statistically you do have a better chance of getting killed by a car. Plus how many people due to illegal truckers and stuff. Yet somehow giving licenses to those who can't read the sign is less of a problem than guns

100% I have a better chance of getting killed on the road especially with how much my wife and I travel

 

[InterMusketeer]

Seems they finally caught the guy. That took a while.

 

[Brucey]

The arms protected by the Second Amendment are meant to be of use in a war. The amendment begins by explaining its own purpose.

Of course, their goal was not to create a society where nothing bad could ever possibly happen, but to safeguard against the eradication of liberty. They relied upon the moral character of the society to keep the 'bad events' to a tolerably low level.

If that moral character has now gone to the point that liberty is too costly to preserve, the Constitution includes a mechanism for altering itself.

That's not how the Supreme Court read it, thats how the gun banners wanted it to be.

DC vs Heller, 2008:

"Held:
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a
firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for
traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Pp. 576–626.
(a) The Amendment's prefatory clause announces a purpose, but
does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative
clause. The operative clause's text and history demonstrate that it con-
notes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 576–595.
(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court's interpretation
of the operative clause. The "militia" comprised all males physically
capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederal-
ists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in
order to disable this citizens' militia, enabling a politicized standing
army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress
power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms,
so that the ideal of a citizens' militia would be preserved. Pp. 595–600.


And then the question of if that right is limited to one's home (its not).

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen (2022)
www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

 

[calico]

That's not how the Supreme Court read it, thats how the gun banners wanted it to be.

DC vs Heller, 2008:

"Held:
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a
firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for
traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Pp. 576–626.
(a) The Amendment's prefatory clause announces a purpose, but
does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative
clause. The operative clause's text and history demonstrate that it con-
notes an individual right to keep and bear arms. Pp. 576–595.
(b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court's interpretation
of the operative clause. The "militia" comprised all males physically
capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederal-
ists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in
order to disable this citizens' militia, enabling a politicized standing
army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress
power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms,
so that the ideal of a citizens' militia would be preserved. Pp. 595–600.


And then the question of if that right is limited to one's home (its not).

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen (2022)
www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

I'm unclear which part you are disagreeing with me on.

 

[Brucey]

I'm unclear which part you are disagreeing with me on.

"The arms protected by the Second Amendment are meant to be of use in a war. The amendment begins by explaining its own purpose."

The gun banners theory was that the preamble meant it didn't cover personal firearms.

My apologies I have misread your intent.

 

[Bojji]

the European pastime of shitting on the US

0% of being shot when I go out it not bad I think (and where I live we have 0.2% Muslims, mostly native Tatars - so no terrorists as well).

None of the mass shooters are mentally healthy people. In USA you get mentally unstable people roaming free and released multiple multiple times. Colleges and universities and schools are notoriously hard on psyche - especially in the modern age of media.

Mass shooting problem is a mental crisis problem. Not a gun problem.

It is like guard blocks around squares and cancelation of Christmas markets in Germany. Everybody knows what the problem is. And it is not the vehicles.

Mentally ill people shouldn't have easy access to guns, that's the whole issue.

 

[Brucey]

Was this another 'gun free zone'?

There can't be too many of this type of mass shooting event where the perpetrator has evaded capture (or death) for so long. Feels like there might be more to this one than there usually is.

Gun free zone by law. Basically need to be in one of the red states below to lawfully carry concealed and be able to defend yourself from a psycho, versus hiding under a desk and hoping for the best.

Colleges and Universities where concealed guns are permitted

A guide for students & parents: review our list of colleges and universities in the United States forced to allow guns on campus. Find your state now.

www.armedcampuses.org

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Europe is more into terrorists having guns only and cars running through people /s

That's just another way to explain the left.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I am 58 years old and hunted since I was a kid with my dad and grandfather so have been around guns my entire life and try going to any range and firing an automatic weapon and see what happens to you

These kids studying these killing videos are broken people

I travel a lot between Indiana and Florida mostly by car and I pass a lot of people traveling 70+ mph using their phones and see all the time on local news about distracted drivers so I feel I have a much better chance of getting killed by a distracted driver than I do by some crazy with a gun

Sadly no one is screaming about a simple fix of disabling phones when a car is moving

Doesn't Australia have strict gun laws?

Check the news

We can't remove cars and phones, but we can remove kids access to guns.

Because of the easy access and gun culture, you will get some occurences with kids growing up around heavy weapons and bad parents that keep guns available in the house, shooting for fun in the backyard and whatnot.

 

[Brucey]

We can't remove cars and phones, but we can remove kids access to guns.

Because of the easy access and gun culture, you will get some occurences with kids growing up around heavy weapons and bad parents that keep guns available in the house, shooting for fun in the backyard and whatnot.

Totally disagree. In my experience kids that are familiar with firearms and hunting are much more responsible than some naive kid thats never seen what a projectile can do to a deer etc, and just plays COD in his basement.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Honestly I dont know the answer

1. Confiscate existing weapons, if someone wants to keep them they need to pass the test and register them, etc.
2. If you fail the test - confiscate
3. Pull weapons out of Walmart - the only place you should buy them should be licence-approved gun stores
4. Ban on automated and semi automated guns for civilians, ban on mods changing the guns to the above

I know - MUH FREEDOMS.

It boggles my mind people don't understand "the right to bear arms" was created when you as a farmer had 200km to the nearest settlement - it's not the same world anymore. Also, "right to bear arms" can also mean "simple handgun, and not semi auto", I thought US the land of the lawyers will have no issue being very flexible on this, as it is on everything that deals with the letter of the law.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We can't remove cars and phones, but we can remove kids access to guns.

Because of the easy access and gun culture, you will get some occurences with kids growing up around heavy weapons and bad parents that keep guns available in the house, shooting for fun in the backyard and whatnot.

People would be much safer if phones got disabled when the car was moving say 10 or 20 mph

I am old enough to remember a time when you left your house if someone needed to get ahold of you it had to wait until you got back home

And I knew where my father kept his guns growing up, under their bed so they were 100% available to me but I also knew if I even looked at them my father would destroy me which in turn circles around to people not being taught right from wrong, almost like its a people problem

1. Confiscate existing weapons, if someone wants to keep them they need to pass the test and register them, etc.
2. If you fail the test - confiscate
3. Pull weapons out of Walmart - the only place you should buy them should be licence-approved gun stores
4. Ban on automated and semi automated guns for civilians, ban on mods changing the guns to the above

I know - MUH FREEDOMS.

It boggles my mind people don't understand "the right to bear arms" was created when you as a farmer had 200km to the nearest settlement - it's not the same world anymore. Also, "right to bear arms" can also mean "simple handgun, and not semi auto", I thought US the land of the lawyers will have no issue being very flexible on this, as it is on everything that deals with the letter of the law.

1. Have no problem with better gun laws, have said that many times. All of my weapons are registered except some very old weapons and my wife I am would easily pass any test and even range test as we take range courses every year
2. Will never work as they will never find the millions of illegal firearms
3. Doesn't matter to me where guns are sold as long as they do the proper background checks
4. 75% of my guns are semi automatic (full automatic weapons are illegal) and I will never surrender my semi auto firearms, just not happening

And yeah, we have freedoms, most worth defending

The right to bear arms also means a well regulated militia to defend the state, not doing that with single shot .22 pistols

 

[Brucey]

1. Confiscate existing weapons, if someone wants to keep them they need to pass the test and register them, etc.
2. If you fail the test - confiscate
3. Pull weapons out of Walmart - the only place you should buy them should be licence-approved gun stores
4. Ban on automated and semi automated guns for civilians, ban on mods changing the guns to the above

I know - MUH FREEDOMS.

It boggles my mind people don't understand "the right to bear arms" was created when you as a farmer had 200km to the nearest settlement - it's not the same world anymore. Also, "right to bear arms" can also mean "simple handgun, and not semi auto", I thought US the land of the lawyers will have no issue being very flexible on this, as it is on everything that deals with the letter of the law.

And how many criminals will be following this procedure?

You do realize that all gun sales from any store require a background check?

So you are saying no revolvers or semiautomatic pistols? Doesn't leave much, some specialized bolt actions for metallic silhouette shooting. Or some derringers.

 

[Brucey]

People would be much safer if phones got disabled when the car was moving say 10 or 20 mph

I am old enough to remember a time when you left your house if someone needed to get ahold of you it had to wait until you got back home

And I knew where my father kept his guns growing up, under their bed so they were 100% available to me but I also knew if I even looked at them my father would destroy me which in turn circles around to people not being taught right from wrong, almost like its a people problem

Is it any wonder when the kids now are indoctrinated right from the beginning of school where boys are encouraged to become girls and there's tranny shows in the library and discipline is just a stern chat with your parents? Didn't have bunch of mass murders back in the day cause kids got a fucken beating if they strayed from the path of good. And no difference with criminal justice system when they get older and can be charged as an adult. Catch and release.

 

[NickFire]

1. Confiscate existing weapons, if someone wants to keep them they need to pass the test and register them, etc.
2. If you fail the test - confiscate
3. Pull weapons out of Walmart - the only place you should buy them should be licence-approved gun stores
4. Ban on automated and semi automated guns for civilians, ban on mods changing the guns to the above

I know - MUH FREEDOMS.

It boggles my mind people don't understand "the right to bear arms" was created when you as a farmer had 200km to the nearest settlement - it's not the same world anymore. Also, "right to bear arms" can also mean "simple handgun, and not semi auto", I thought US the land of the lawyers will have no issue being very flexible on this, as it is on everything that deals with the letter of the law.

The right to bear arms was not created just because of distance between homes. Please be intellectually honest. It was literally created in response to government oppression.

 

[Brucey]

Also, "right to bear arms" can also mean "simple handgun, and not semi auto", I thought US the land of the lawyers will have no issue being very flexible on this, as it is on everything that deals with the letter of the law.

Please read two Surpreme Court decisions, DC versus Heller, and NYSRPA vs Bruen.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Is it any wonder when the kids now are indoctrinated right from the beginning of school where boys are encouraged to become girls and there's tranny shows in the library and discipline is just a stern chat with your parents? Didn't have bunch of mass murders back in the day cause kids got a fucken beating if they strayed from the path of good. And no difference with criminal justice system when they get older and can be charged as an adult. Catch and release.

Such a different world.

I grew up in a time where I had my shotgun hanging in the back window of my truck so I could go deer hunting after school

 

[Brucey]

Such a different world.

I grew up in a time where I had my shotgun hanging in the back window of my truck so I could go deer hunting after school

You'd probably be searched just for having an empty rack in this day and age.

 

[Madonis]

Gun control is just a way to control the people. Because the big government always wants to have a monopoly on violence.

Well, right now there is the opposite of a monopoly of violence: a free for all.

Folks talk about mental health, which is technically valid, but then do literally nothing about it.

Especially not the current governing party, which thinks that spreading "thoughts and prayers" is enough while drastically cutting welfare and healthcare across the board.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

And how many criminals will be following this procedure?

Do you think Europe is some sort of lawless Mad Max wasteland?

 

[NickFire]

Well, right now there is the opposite of a monopoly of violence: a free for all.

Folks talk about mental health, which is technically valid, but then do literally nothing about it.

Especially not the current governing party, which thinks that spreading thoughts and prayers is enough while drastically cutting welfare and healthcare across the board.

Oh you gotta be kidding.

Who is it that keeps pushing no bail and letting the crazies walk in and out of police stations like a revolving door was installed?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The right to bear arms was not created just because of distance between homes. Please be intellectually honest. It was literally created in response to government oppression.

What oppression? Bunch of dandies chilling in Boston or Philly?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The right to bear arms also means a well regulated militia to defend the state, not doing that with single shot .22 pistols

You don't really think you will last a long time versus regular army, do you?

 

[NickFire]

What oppression? Bunch of dandies chilling in Boston or Philly?

I see the request to be intellectually honest was rejected.

 

[Madonis]

Oh you gotta be kidding.

Who is it that keeps pushing no bail and letting the crazies walk in and out of police stations like a revolving door was installed?

Sadly, I'm not.

There's lots of other things you could do to help people who have mental health issues before they get to a police station, if we're going to be serious about mental health being the underlying cause.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You don't really think you will last a long time versus regular army, do you?

Its a no win argument because you wont change my mind on how I feel nor will I ever surrender my firearms

I have owned firearms for 40+ years and guess what, since each of them have come into my possession not a single one has hurt anyone

 

[NickFire]

Sadly, I'm not.

There's lots of other things you could do to help people who have mental health issues before they get to a police station, if we're going to be serious about mental health being the underlying cause.

I don't give a shit about what we could do before they get to the police station when the conversation started with a claim that the party in charge isn't trying to do something. Because every single day I see news stories about the party in charge pressuring the other party to stop letting the crazies roam free after getting in trouble.

You aren't wrong that more can be done. But bringing it up in that context is deflection because you want to take a shot at the party in charge and don't really care about the issue in my humble opinion.

 

[Brucey]

Sadly, I'm not.

There's lots of other things you could do to help people who have mental health issues before they get to a police station, if we're going to be serious about mental health being the underlying cause.

Are you saying that its the Federal governments responsibility to enforce state laws?

That's certainly one way to ignore that cities run by Democrats have very high crime rates, take Chicago for example. And even if you do get arrested, its most likely catch and release time because poor criminal thug just didn't know any better...

 

[Brucey]

Its a no win argument because you wont change my mind on how I feel nor will I ever surrender my firearms

I have owned firearms for 40+ years and guess what, since each of them have come into my possession not a single one has hurt anyone

Instead of talking about violence, the liberals talk about "gun violence" and "knife violence". As it if its the gun or knives fault, and not the sack of shit person holding and using it to commit crimes.

 

[Madonis]

I don't give a shit about what we could do before they get to the police station when the conversation started with a claim that the party in charge isn't trying to do something. Because every single day I see news stories about the party in charge pressuring the other party to stop letting the crazies roam free after getting in trouble.

You aren't wrong that more can be done. But bringing it up in that context is deflection because you want to take a shot at the party in charge and don't really care about the issue in my humble opinion.

I do, because by the time you're getting the police involved, things are often at a breaking point or close to it. Not always, but frequently enough.

Objectively, the best option would be to combine multiple approaches. Is there any legislative or executive desire to do that right now? Not really.

Are you saying that its the Federal governments responsibility to enforce state laws?

That's certainly one way to ignore that cities run by Democrats have very high crime rates, take Chicago for example. And even if you do get arrested, its most likely catch and release time because poor criminal thug just didn't know any better...

1. States, by and large, aren't doing a whole lot. Exceptions may exist, of course, but that's largely the case.

2. When the federal government wants something to happen, it can and does give the states various incentives to take action.

3. Actually, some of the worst situations happen in blue cities within red states. Divided government apparently makes it harder to maintain a unified front.

The big picture: 13 of the 20 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were in Republican-run states. Many of those cities were run by Democrats who often are at odds with state officials, an Axios analysis of FBI data finds.

Eight of the top 10 cities with the highest murder rates and populations of at least 100,000 were in red states — Mississippi, Alabama, Missouri, Tennessee, Ohio and Louisiana, Axios found.

• Jackson, Miss., had the nation's highest homicide rate— nearly 78 per 100,000 residents, more than 15 times the national average.
• Birmingham, Ala., was second with a homicide rate of almost 59 per 100,000 residents — more than 11 times the national average.
• St. Louis was third, followed by Memphis, Tenn.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homicide-rates-highest-blue-cities-red-states

 

[NickFire]

I do, because by the time you're getting the police involved, things are often at a breaking point or close to it. Not always, but frequently enough.

Objectively, the best option would be to combine multiple approaches. Is there any legislative or executive desire to do that right now? Not really.

yes or no - should the cities keep letting crazy people commit violent acts and walk away without bail?

 

[Brucey]

. When the federal government wants something to happen, it can and does give the states various incentives to take action.

Yes the blue states and sanctuary cities are welcoming national guard deployments with open arms.....

I'm sure they will aso embrace some fantasy federal edict that all mentally ill psychos should be locked up to protect innocent citizens...., versus being stabbed and set on fire on public transport etc.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Mentally ill people shouldn't have easy access to guns, that's the whole issue.

The problem is that people in USA (especially on the left but it is a general western phenomenon) do not consider a lot of mental issues as "issues" but as "he/she is different". Most of those "divergents" deserve a place in an asylum.

 

[Madflavor]

The right to bear arms was not created just because of distance between homes. Please be intellectually honest. It was literally created in response to government oppression.

Let's be real. If we ever enter an era of full blown government oppression, we ain't doing shit against them.

Do we have a Navy? An Air Force? Tanks? Do we have factories that can produce ships, planes, and tanks to combat theirs? Do we have machines flying in the sky that can spot enemies from thousands of feet above, and when you press a button they go bye-bye? The idea that we could band together with our AR-15s and makeshift bombs, and overthrow the most powerful military in the world, is fantasy land.

This isn't Star Wars.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

We can't remove cars and phones, but we can remove kids access to guns.

Yes you can remove cars and phones. You will die from some transportation incidents and explosions but at least not from guns.

And how many criminals will be following this procedure?

Haven't you see those "Gun free signs". Criminals should follow them!

It is all an attempt to by the government to tighten the control - governments are afraid of their own people.

And yeah, we have freedoms, most worth defending

It is a shame that a lot of western world just don't know what freedom is and due to influx of people from totalitarian states (like a lot of them in the east and middle east) they are growing even more supportive of total government control.

Is it any wonder when the kids now are indoctrinated right from the beginning of school where boys are encouraged to become girls and there's tranny shows in the library and discipline is just a stern chat with your parents?

Also all those people that are screaming in the forest and destroy things to release an angers are not really stable people either.

Well, right now there is the opposite of a monopoly of violence: a free for all.

Gun incidents are less frequent than car incidents. It is like that argument against plane travel - each incident is such a tragedy (it is though), flying is dangerous...Yet you have better chance being hit by a car outside.

Do you think Europe is some sort of lawless Mad Max wasteland?

Do you think USA is? Most of the people will never even experience a shooting incident over the course of the life.

 

[NickFire]

Let's be real. If we ever enter an era of full blown government oppression, we ain't doing shit against them.

Do we have a Navy? An Air Force? Tanks? Do we have factories that can produce ships, planes, and tanks to combat theirs? Do we have machines flying in the sky that can spot enemies from thousands of feet above, and when you press a button they go bye-bye? The idea that we could band together with our AR-15s and makeshift bombs, and overthrow the most powerful military in the world, is fantasy land.

This isn't Star Wars.

At no point have I been arguing about who would win in a fight. Nor do I care to. It's completely irrelevant to why the 2nd exists.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Person of Interest in custody btw

 

[Brucey]

Yes you can remove cars and phones. You will die from some transportation incidents and explosions but at least not from guns.

If private vehicle ownership is banned, we could save over 40,000 lives per year.

Would also make it much harder to do ramming attacks.

Also ban knives, nobody "needs" a steak knife, plastic knives are safest option.

Won't you please get on a bus? Think of the children....

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Folks talk about mental health, which is technically valid, but then do literally nothing about it.

Because for a lot of people in the congress people with mental issues is a blue electorate. Granted the judiciary branch can let go a person with 100 arrests so whatever...

 

[Brucey]

Well, right now there is the opposite of a monopoly of violence: a free for all.

No, in many states there are designated "gun free zones" where the lab abiding are unable to defend themselves. Its actually better to call them "protected criminal zones" because criminals know their victims are unarmed and unable to defend themselves in those areas.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Instead of talking about violence, the liberals talk about "gun violence" and "knife violence". As it if its the gun or knives fault, and not the sack of shit person holding and using it to commit crimes.

It is basically the same argument as "combating racism" by banning people online. Considering that in Europe they release criminals who committed rapes because they "did not know better" so...

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homicide-rates-highest-blue-cities-red-states

So most of those cities are run by democrats? Makes you wonder. I wonder how many of those rates would go down if criminals were actually arrested once and for all without release. You need Giuliani level crackdown on crime in every blue city.

 

[Bojji]

Person of Interest in custody btw

Do they tell any details about him?

 

[NickFire]

Do they tell any details about him?

Suspect in 30s. Was possibly wearing camo mask. About it at the moment I think.

Police have person of interest in custody over Brown University deadly shooting

The shooting erupted Saturday afternoon in the engineering building of the Ivy League school in Providence, Rhode Island, during final exams.

www.boston.com

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Do you think USA is? Most of the people will never even experience a shooting incident over the course of the life.

Most of the people will never be in a airplane accident, doesn't mean we don't try to make airplanes as safe as possible.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Most of the people will never be in a airplane accident, doesn't mean we don't try to make airplanes as safe as possible.

It does not make USA as Mad Max wasteland either. It is like saying that Europe loves raping. It does not make Europe into the rape continent of the west

Banning guns do not solve the problem. It just gives the government more control. Just like banning knives in UK does not solve any problem. Or banning online posts. Banning guns, banning knives, banning Christmas events, banning cars, banning leaving the house, banning online posts, banning bad thoughts..

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Shooter supposedly yelled something and supposedly used a handgun

I don't put a lot of stock in the wording of the Tweet, just used this for the news reporting

 

[Brucey]

It is basically the same argument as "combating racism" by banning people online. Considering that in Europe they release criminals who committed rapes because they "did not know better" so...


So most of those cities are run by democrats? Makes you wonder. I wonder how many of those rates would go down if criminals were actually arrested once and for all without release. You need Giuliani level crackdown on crime in every blue city.

What's worse is thr feds will put an immigration detainer on the illegal aliens so they can be picked up safely from the jail for deportation proceedings, but the blue city or state will release them into the communities regardless, to pander for votes.