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I didn't pull a gun I showed the gun in its holster under my arm and if I did ever pull my gun it would 1 million percent be because I care about my wife and her well being

Did you not read what I said in the least?

I stopped for fuel in a sketchy place at around 3:00 AM. These guys came out of the shadows approaching us. I let them see I had a gun and they retreated


That is called escalation, which is why civ's shouldn't own guns, you were lucky, and you still wanted to protect your car, from being robbed. We all know why you showed your gun.

You were going to shoot someone over robbing you of a piece of property, if they kept approaching? That is not heroic, that is stupid, no matter how you keep retelling the story to yourself.
 
That is called escalation, which is why civ's shouldn't own guns, you were lucky, and you still wanted to protect your car, from being robbed. We all know why you showed your gun.

You were going to shoot someone over robbing you of a piece of property, if they kept approaching? That is not heroic, that is stupid, no matter how you keep retelling the story to yourself.
Seems our conversation has run its course, you have no idea my intentions, if I wanted to escalate I would have pulled my gun, I wanted them to see I wasn't an easy target
 
Custody too triggering? Detained?
Custody usually means a person has been formally held/arrested. Detained is temporary based for questioning/investigation. In custody somebody is read their miranda rights, when detained they are not. They are different so I guess they wanted to make this clear. Why?, I'm not sure.
 
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You don't have to be able to defeat the hypothetical oppressive government at conventional war for being armed to prove effective at preserving your rights. Oppressing a disarmed citizenry costs absolutely nothing and can be done on a whim (as we are seeing across the disarmed parts of the West); oppressing an armed citizenry is a very different prospect and would likely cost more than can be gained. This is why they disarm first, and then oppress.
So seeing as things have really kicked off in the past decade with these type of shootings in the US, has the oppression started?
 
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Why are so many people against, just having basic gun safey laws in place??????
Not saying it's wrong for a country to do it the way you describe, but many people (in the US) are against some/all of the laws you describe because they are obviously antithetical to the right to 'keep and bear arms', and because they imply the right is in fact a privilege granted by the government, which is antithetical to the US Constitution.
 
Why are so many people against, just having basic gun safey laws in place??????
I totally agree that every Tom, Dick and Harry shouldn't be able to buy LMGs and rocket launchers from Walmart hahaha

But I think the issue people have is that if you give the government an inch, they'll take a mile.
 
That is called escalation, which is why civ's shouldn't own guns, you were lucky, and you still wanted to protect your car, from being robbed. We all know why you showed your gun.

You were going to shoot someone over robbing you of a piece of property, if they kept approaching? That is not heroic, that is stupid, no matter how you keep retelling the story to yourself.
Eh!? Are you soft in the head? That's clearly not an escalation that's a subtle wee gesture to show that he wasn't about to be rolled over on and the cunts that YOU ARE assuming had only robbery in mind took the hint and backed off.. he had his wife in the car you moron, ain't no one risking a situation like that if they have the means to stop it, I think you need to rethink the situation and place yourself in it
 
I have a friend all the way from highschool teaching there, thank god he was already on vacation out of the US when the shooting happened.

People or laws, something needs to be done to stop these from happening, and quick.
 
I tried giving them the benefit of the doubt they misread it at first but I think you are right, they are trolling or maybe one of the most coward people walking the face of the Earth, the easy target for criminals
He is retarded and would be curling in a ball like a baby if that same scenario happened to him. In your situation, I would have done the same thing. Only difference would have been the type of gun being shown. :messenger_beaming:
 
We need more guns and less control.
I can predict that if we have two timelines one where the amount of guns in civilians hands are doubled and one where guns are reduced to an extreme minimum that the latter would have far, far, less mass murder type situations. Less murder in general as well. I doubt the latter scenario would occur as guns have become sacred to Americans, but it's just what would almost certainly happen.

Obviously it's not the only way of reducing gun violence, cultural changes combined with stricter screening laws can likely get good results as well, but that also sounds pretty impossible for modern day America.

If the Las Vegas shooting and Sandy Hook can't force America to change I doubt anything will.
 
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I can predict that if we have two timelines one where the amount of guns in civilians hands are doubled and one where guns are reduced to an extreme minimum that the latter would have far, far, less mass murder type situations. Less murder in general as well. I doubt the latter scenario would occur as guns have become sacred to Americans, but it's just what would almost certainly happen.

Obviously it's not the only way of reducing gun violence, cultural changes combined with stricter screening laws can likely get good results as well, but that also sounds pretty impossible for modern day America.

If the Las Vegas shooting and Sandy Hook can't force America to change I doubt anything will.
I don't recall the details around the Vegas shooting but wasn't Sandy Hook where the shooter killed his own mother and took her weapons she bought legally?

Maybe I am thinking of yet another shootings

How sad is it that I can't even keep the mass shootings straight because of the amount we have had here in the US?
 
I have carried for approx 40 years here in the US and only felt I was ever going to need it once versus another human

Was outside of Atlanta very early in the AM maybe 3:00 and was running out of gas and stopped at the only places I saw open that already looked sketchy

While pumping gas some black guys came from the side of the building dressed in all black slowly walking our way and all I did was take my jacket off and reveal my .45 strapped to my body and they retreated back to their shadows

All it takes it once
Im surprised it didn't entice them. It's like flashing a really dangerous wallet but with $800 spilling out of it.
 
Criminals want soft targets, not something that will fight back
I totally missed that you were "outside of Atlanta" when it happened. I totally believe it. A buddy of mine was filling up at a gas station in south DeKalb County YEARS ago when in broad daylight a group of guys pulled up next to him and displayed their hardware. He was sure it was the end for him, but they just laughed and drove off.

I'm in the north metro, but I'm not a fan of the nearby city or many of its environs, even when I worked at Georgia Tech for 10 years.
 
I totally missed that you were "outside of Atlanta" when it happened. I totally believe it. A buddy of mine was filling up at a gas station in south DeKalb County YEARS ago when in broad daylight a group of guys pulled up next to him and displayed their hardware. He was sure it was the end for him, but they just laughed and drove off.

I'm in the north metro, but I'm not a fan of the nearby city or many of its environs, even when I worked at Georgia Tech for 10 years.
I knew I was in a bad area and we are talking maybe 20 some years ago with no navigation and we just got off a main highway because we were about to be walking which would have been worse for us

I walked into the store to pay and the dude was behind what I can only assume as bullet proof glass

Maybe those fine young men were indeed coming to offer to pump my gas so I could be on my way but glad I didn't have to find out
 
I knew I was in a bad area and we are talking maybe 20 some years ago with no navigation and we just got off a main highway because we were about to be walking which would have been worse for us

I walked into the store to pay and the dude was behind what I can only assume as bullet proof glass

Maybe those fine young men were indeed coming to offer to pump my gas so I could be on my way but glad I didn't have to find out
I remember pulling off for gas with my girlfriend at the time, probably in the same sort of area outside of Atlanta. Was about 1am, and the store was closed with bars on the windows and a steel door covering the entrance. They left the pumps on, however, for credit card gas purchases. Was a very dark and quiet road which appeared to have no other businesses or houses just woods, slight noise from the highway to the right.

On the left side of the brick gas station building there was a sole light shining down to the ground with a coyote underneath it, playing and leaping trying to catch moths with it's mouth. Couldn't have been more than 30-40 yards from me and it didn't even notice I was there.

Put only a quick $20 in since there was no other sign life in sight and all I had playing in my head was some backwoods 'wrong turn' shit and how it felt right out of one of those movie scenes when I snapped out of the "oh, that's adorable" moment :pie_roffles:

I'm always armed on my person.
 
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I remember pulling off for gas with my girlfriend at the time, probably in the same sort of area outside of Atlanta. Was about 1am, and the store was closed with bars on the windows and a steel door covering the entrance. They left the pumps on, however, for credit card gas purchases. Was a very dark and quiet road which appeared to have no other businesses or houses just woods, slight noise from the highway to the right.

On the left side of the brick gas station building there was a sole light shining down to the ground with a coyote underneath it, playing and leap trying to catch moths with it's mouth. Couldn't have been more than 30-40 yards from me and it didn't even notice I was there.

Put only a quick $20 in since there was no other sign life in site and all I had playing in my head was some backwoods 'wrong turn' shit and how it felt right out of one of those movie scenes when I snapped out of the "oh, that's adorable" moment :pie_roffles:

I'm always armed on my person.
Living most of my life in Southern Indiana being from a fairly rural community it seems most people have guns

I am armed 99% of the time I am out of the house

When a person knows what they are looking for you would be surprised how many times I see someone carrying in say WalMart
 
There is a video on instagram of a (white) guy open carrying into a gas station when a group of (black) guys come in, one of whom just yanks the first guys pistol right out of his pants. Dude pleads to get it back but the others just turn around and leave.

Comments say the white guy tried to get it back outside and was shot dead for his troubles, others say he retrieved a rifle from his car and took the pistol back with force.

Either way, keep it concealed! I get a fair amount of insta vides of folks getting shot when out and about. Everything from south american assassinations to SE asian robberies to southern US "Stick 'em up" robberies. Crazy how all footage gets out there.

The big takeaway is that, at least when using pistols, its RARE to drop a guy on the spot. Folks run and shoot, only to collapse some time later, unless hit in the head.

I was trained to shoot the bad guy to the ground, which was basically a mag dump back in the day, though now with the hi-cap wonder 9's even I would be hard pressed to fire off 17 rounds before assessing, trigger finger needs some rest :P
 
There is a video on instagram of a (white) guy open carrying into a gas station when a group of (black) guys come in, one of whom just yanks the first guys pistol right out of his pants. Dude pleads to get it back but the others just turn around and leave.
I saw that video, yeah. Zero situational awareness while having his pistol in the back waistband in no type of retention or even regular holster.

Just a damned goofy.
 
There is a video on instagram of a (white) guy open carrying into a gas station when a group of (black) guys come in, one of whom just yanks the first guys pistol right out of his pants. Dude pleads to get it back but the others just turn around and leave.

Comments say the white guy tried to get it back outside and was shot dead for his troubles, others say he retrieved a rifle from his car and took the pistol back with force.

Either way, keep it concealed! I get a fair amount of insta vides of folks getting shot when out and about. Everything from south american assassinations to SE asian robberies to southern US "Stick 'em up" robberies. Crazy how all footage gets out there.

The big takeaway is that, at least when using pistols, its RARE to drop a guy on the spot. Folks run and shoot, only to collapse some time later, unless hit in the head.

I was trained to shoot the bad guy to the ground, which was basically a mag dump back in the day, though now with the hi-cap wonder 9's even I would be hard pressed to fire off 17 rounds before assessing, trigger finger needs some rest :P
Always carry concealed

I love the stopping power of my .45 just not the easiest thing to keep hidden unless I am wearing a jacket otherwise its more of a tactical bag on the chest that my wife refers to as my man purse :)

Use a belly band holster for my Hellcat 9mm
 
This whole thing stinks

I don't care if its tinfoil hat levels here but they are hiding stuff for a reason

Why withhold what he yelled?
Because the source that he yelled that is Laura Loomer. Now, it may be true or not, but she is hardly what anyone would call a reliable source. Lots of influencers on Twitter are trying to spin this as a left motivated attack. It very well might be, but we don't even know who the shooter is, so it seems to me it is just agenda pushing to say something like that.
 
I like a scandium 5 shot revolver in front pocket or a compact glock at 4 o'clock. I used to carry a commander 1911 but I'm not thin enough anymore :P Plus it was uncomfortable when driving.

I mostly just stopped going to sketchy places with sketchy girls, that really helped :P
 
Because the source that he yelled that is Laura Loomer. Now, it may be true or not, but she is hardly what anyone would call a reliable source. Lots of influencers on Twitter are trying to spin this as a left motivated attack. It very well might be, but we don't even know who the shooter is, so it seems to me it is just agenda pushing to say something like that.
If that's the case, then yeah, that Jigsaw looking chick needs to STFU then.
 
I like a scandium 5 shot revolver in front pocket or a compact glock at 4 o'clock. I used to carry a commander 1911 but I'm not thin enough anymore :P Plus it was uncomfortable when driving.

I mostly just stopped going to sketchy places with sketchy girls, that really helped :P
Revolver is so much more reliable
 
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