HeisenbergFX4
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How are we this far out and still have so little on this shooter?
Mass shooting at Brown campus in progress
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Well I can be completely sarcastic and say unfortunately they probably had no money for cameras and decent security
(Knock Knock)
Wait a sec I got to answer the door
(goes off to answer the door)
(comes back)
Yeah the guy knocking at the door came to let me know Brown has an endowment of 8 billion. Would have been nice if, you know, they'd spend some of that on security and cameras that actually worked.
HeisenbergFX4
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Something just feels off
There has to be more videos of this shooter
Why do I have a feeling we will just all of a sudden be told they cornered a suspect and they died in a shootout with police and they found mountains of evidence at the scene /case closed
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
didnt they do the same thing with the first charlie kirk suspect? wtf is going on?
i am pretty sure that if the charlie kirk shooter hadnt turned himself in, they wouldnt have found him. just a bunch of incompetent buffoons.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Every campus has got to be covered with cameras. There should be footage on top of footage of this event. And there has been nothing.
HeisenbergFX4
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
From the videos that have been released, the shooter suspect is basically covered head to toe in the most non descriptor clothing imaginable. They probably have tons of footage of people with a similar appearance but have to verify that they're releasing footage of the suspect and not some rando also dressed in the same winter garb.
Dr Bass
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The way people like this get taken out by human trash makes me want to barf.
Liljagare
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Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Switzerland, are some of the most gun dense places on the planet.
Why don't theese countries have the same amount of mass shootings, or more, compared to other nations? According to most posters here, theese countries should be complete murderholes.
Could give a hint, mental check required, to get a gun, hunters reason , you get license, to get a gun otherwise, military homeguard, to get a gun as a non civilian, local police, they will check you out, local police will visit you to make sure you store your gun properly, gun and mantle, needs to be stored in different safes, you cannot store a gun ready to fire at home. IE, regular sanity gun safe laws.
Why do so many people think theese are insane gun laws?
We can own as many guns as we want over here, but, you need to show, that you are educated in the use of the weapons, that you want to have.
Why are so many people against, just having basic gun safey laws in place??????
Gun and mantle, cannot be stored in a reasonably easibly accessible places, ammunition, neeeds to be stored in a different safe.
Like, regular military safety?
Why don't theese countries have the same amount of mass shootings, or more, compared to other nations? According to most posters here, theese countries should be complete murderholes.
Could give a hint, mental check required, to get a gun, hunters reason , you get license, to get a gun otherwise, military homeguard, to get a gun as a non civilian, local police, they will check you out, local police will visit you to make sure you store your gun properly, gun and mantle, needs to be stored in different safes, you cannot store a gun ready to fire at home. IE, regular sanity gun safe laws.
Why do so many people think theese are insane gun laws?
We can own as many guns as we want over here, but, you need to show, that you are educated in the use of the weapons, that you want to have.
Why are so many people against, just having basic gun safey laws in place??????
Gun and mantle, cannot be stored in a reasonably easibly accessible places, ammunition, neeeds to be stored in a different safe.
Like, regular military safety?
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Liljagare
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Sorry, didn't see that edit.
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HeisenbergFX4
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I just don't agree with the home part of how I want to store my weapons and for sure no one is coming into my house to inspect stuff
All of my guns are registered except for a couple of older guns like a 1911 my grandfather used in WWII that has been handed down to me
I am all for taking a gun safety course both class room and in the field proving you can safely handle a gun plus my fingerprints are on file when I received my concealed carry permit
Liljagare
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Most weapons stored in a certain country end up killing family members?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Think putting ammo in a separate place would drastically curb that?
I think we have a huge mental health issue here in the US
Liljagare
Member
So, how come other nations can't achieve the same level of understanding? What makes nation 1 different from nation 2?
TDiddyLive
Member
Overmedication of drugs that change brain chemistry.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Same reason those countries have these incarceration rates per 100,000 people
Finland 52
Sweden 96
Switzerland 77
Norway 55
And the US coming in 5th highest overall with
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Unknown Soldier
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Culture
clem84
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I agree. A firearm gives you power. Sorry for the superhero quote but with great power comes great responsibility. This basically comes down to should owning firearms be a constitutional right or a privilege? It think it should absolutely be a privilege. Something you have to work hard to attain, proper training, certification and all, and should only be available to you if you have a spotless criminal record. I'm sorry but no one should have that much destructive power in their hands if they've proven to society they can't be trusted.
Liljagare
Member
Scandinavia isn't a unique place, most people live with their neghbours all over, peacefully. it has happened before.
Kacho
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Why did you quote the same post three separate times in the past 25 minutes?
Liljagare
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Liljagare
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Angry_Megalodon
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I think a psychological test should be mandatory for everybody who wants to own a gun. Multinational companies use personality tests for recruitment and promotions. Those are useful tools for profiling.
You need to pass an exam for your driving license, why not for weapons?
You need to pass an exam for your driving license, why not for weapons?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
We have better footage of Bigfoot. None of the entrances or hallways in the well lit college have clean working cameras?
Artoris
Gold Member
Sweden 96
Sweden should be much higher
as people who need to be locket up don't get locket up
StreetsofBeige
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A bad combination:
- Gov is lax on gun control
- A lot Americans are wacko who go on shooting sprees
- Media amps up the fear factor typically only showing bad news and violence and whatever hit pieces get the most views
- Culture is amped up on US military, heart pumping TV recruitment ads, half the sporting events promote soldiers and vets as gun toting or parachute platoon combat heroes. I;ve even been to sporting events where the pre-game intro celebrating a vet literally rappelled down from the steel beams at the top of the arena making it a big dog and pony show promoting the military
- Despite gun violence, they want freedom of ownership of guns for whatever reasons... defence, gun range hobby fun, family history of gun interests.... and are willing to take the risk
- For many, the answer to countering gun violence is having more guns. So instead of reducing the gadget that causes shooting sprees, the solution is to have more of them assuming a guy walking around with a gun permit will be armed and will get into a shootout with the perpetrator doing a shootout himself
- Despite other similar and rich western countries with strict gun laws having chill people, Americans still think if youre unarmed that criminals will ransack entire neighbourhoods at will. Even though this doesnt happen in other countries where youd think criminals with guns would do that to the population
- You got to have freedom of guns to defend yourself in case the US military itself turns on it's own people like a domestic version of Red Dawn and takes over cities and homes. So to fight back against US armed soldiers and attack choppers, you pull out your pistol or AR-15 and get into shootouts with the US army and marines
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Most? More than 50% of guns the US end up killing family members? That's if a gun became sentient and pointed and pulled its own trigger?
I think you've been slurping up some gun banner fanfictions.
Even in the anti gun shithole of NYS, secure storage of firearms is only required if there are children in the household. If its all adults, we can have loaded guns at hand for self defense.
Because there's really nothing quite as useless as an unloaded gun if you happen to need to use it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Yeah when my son was young my guns stayed locked up but ever since he left the house my guns are easy to grab
Its called deterrence. The only thing a criminal respects is an armed "victim". If there is a chance that the victim is armed, they will generally move to a different target, often a "gun free zone" like a school, college, workplace or other soft target where he knows law abiding victims have been disarmed by the government.
I always suggest to anti gunners that they should put up a sign in their front yard saying "No guns in this house". I'm sure you'll be very safe.
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StreetsofBeige
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Dont forget the bullet point I said right under it. That already counters what you say. If strict gun control countries are a bastion for armed criminals to have free reign to ransack locals, it would be the complete opposite where the US has low crime and gun violence rates. And all the other western style rich countries would be the ones with huge warzone criminal activity.
- Despite other similar and rich western countries with strict gun laws having chill people, Americans still think if youre unarmed that criminals will ransack entire neighbourhoods at will. Even though this doesnt happen in other countries where youd think criminals with guns would do that to the population
Gun violence deterrence is such a low consideration for crooks or mental people that's why the US is sky high in gun violence. A lot of them dont give a shit if they get shot, and many will just commit suicide anyway when the cops are in hot pursuit. The guys going postal shooting up an office or school have no problem having a final showdown with cops guns a blazing.
Why would I need to post a sign like that. Most people dont own a gun where I live so every crook armed with a gun robbing a house already knows the vast majority of homes in every neighbourhood would have at best a kitchen knife or baseball bat to fend off an attack. It's not like crooks take over every home and they shoot people on sidewalks because there's no gun carrying people around. You must live in a wild west kind of neighbourhood or city where everyone is scared of being a victim, so everyone needs to carry a gun to fight off burglers or mental cases doing shooting sprees in the middle of the day.
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HeisenbergFX4
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I have carried for approx 40 years here in the US and only felt I was ever going to need it once versus another human
Was outside of Atlanta very early in the AM maybe 3:00 and was running out of gas and stopped at the only places I saw open that already looked sketchy
While pumping gas some black guys came from the side of the building dressed in all black slowly walking our way and all I did was take my jacket off and reveal my .45 strapped to my body and they retreated back to their shadows
All it takes it once
Liljagare
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The last one was written out of history so hard that a entire audience gasped over a newer tv show.. : \
Criminals don't care if you have a gun at home, they never did, and never will. If someone wants to rob you they will, alarm, guns, or dogs, will not matter, but the entire security sector wants you to think differently. Meanwhile, the gun you bought will probarly end up shooting a family member, or your kids, if you live in a certain country.. due to lack of gun safety education, lack of training, etc, etc, etc.
The May 4 Shootings at Kent State University: The Search for Historical Accuracy | May 4, 1970 | Kent State University
THE MAY 4 SHOOTINGS AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY: THE SEARCH FOR HISTORICAL ACCURACY BY JERRY M. LEWIS and THOMAS R. HENSLEY
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Liljagare
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I think your point speak against itself?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
That showing I had a firearm likely protected my wife and I?
StreetsofBeige
Member
There could be situations or locations or cities where being armed might be that important, but put it this way.The last one was written out of history so hard that a entire audience gasped over a newer tv show.. : \
Criminals don't care if you have a gun at home, they never did, and never will. If someone wants to rob you they will, alarm, guns, or dogs, will not matter, but the entire security sector wants you to think differently. Meanwhile, the gun you bought will probarly end up shooting a family member, or your kids, if you live in a certain country.. due to lack of gun safety education, lack of training, etc, etc, etc.
The May 4 Shootings at Kent State University: The Search for Historical Accuracy | May 4, 1970 | Kent State University
THE MAY 4 SHOOTINGS AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY: THE SEARCH FOR HISTORICAL ACCURACY BY JERRY M. LEWIS and THOMAS R. HENSLEYwww.kent.edu
Tulsa race massacre - Wikipedia
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If being armed is such a big deal about defence and deterrence (as opposed to people just admitting they want guns because its fun to shoot at ranges or cool to have), that would mean the lowest crime and gun violence should theoretically come from every citizen in every country being armed. There would be so many people who could counter shoot a criminal or wacko, nobody would ever dare to do anything dumb. And the US with high gun access should have the lowest gun violence rates, while all the other rich western countries with strict gun laws should be the wild west with high gun violence rates where crooks with illegal guns have taken over every block as no homeowners can defend themselves with their shitty kitchen knife.
But it's the exact opposite.
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Liljagare
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More than likely, you would have been involved in a shoot out, rather than surrendering a super important piece of property, if it escalated?
Protect yourself? Your mentality was about protecting a piece of metal, and you would have shot someone over it? This is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of civilians owning a gun..
Even in the military, the last thing you want to do is to discharge your firearm, meanwhile, civics have wet dreams about it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I will die protecting my wife, they can have my car
I don't know what they were coming after and I won't be a victim
Whatever they wanted, showing I was armed likely prevented it as I doubt they were coming up to ask for money to buy a bag of cookies
Liljagare
Member
You pulled a gun, protecting your car, you didn't care about your wife, if you did, you'd never done that.
You escalated, and in a not needed situation. Typical civilian situation. In a better situation, you would have asked them "can I help you refuel, and give you some money for the trip? Here, have some money for your trip too!" to protect your wife from a violent encounter.
You never pull out a gun over a piece of property.
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