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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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kmag

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The main reason the BBC is the best bet on Election night is that really only the beeb have the requisite number of reporters at the counts.

ITV/ITN generally have a decent number due to their regional divisions, but Sky really suffers. They normally have some freelancers, retired journalists, cross shares from their sports channel and international broadcasters.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
Thanks for this, one of ours wasn't bad at 9k. David Morris on the other hand, just under £36k. Christ.

Scratch that, fuck me just checked his previous year. £189,525.68. David Morris you cunt.

38k from mine. Greedy prick.
 

Tak3n

Banned
remember to keep an eye on the exit polls, they are usually very accurate so we will have a very good idea come 10:30 tonight
 

mclem

Member
Edit: I just stuck £40 on Labour getting most seats on the exchange. Obviously it's in play so I reckon I can make a small profit. Small chips compared to my enormous and continuing sports gambling habbit but it makes losing much easier to take.

If nothing else, the first returns tend to go Labour's way, so you might well profit off people reacting to that no matter what the outcome.
 

mclem

Member
9pm: Channel 4 - Alternative coverage with Paxman, Last Leg, Gogglebox. Through the night with C4 News team.
9pm: Sky News - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: BBC One - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: ITV - Rolling through the night

Nothing until 10pm of note due to legal restrictions on influencing things.

Speaking of TV channels, I've no idea if it'll be effective, and it's a bit publicity-stunty, but I can't help but have a bit of affection for what E4 are doing today.

Which, for those who aren't aware, is: Nothing. They're not broadcasting, to try to encourage their youth audience to get out there and vote.



Myself, I'm undecided. Not on voting, that's sorted. But which channel to watch? BBC for resources, tradition and Dimbleby, or Channel 4 for trying something new, Mitchell and Paxman? The real answer, the one I would love to see again, is the coverage BBC2 had back in 1997
 
Speaking of nothing happening abroad, the almost complete lack of Foreign Policy discussion on this campaign - does it represent a) a concensus between the major parties or b) in general no one in the electorate gives a flying fuckeroo? I mean, Miliband (to his shame) and Cam (PHUH) disagreed over Syria, which isn't insignificant (Though the technicalities of it are a little less significant than this headline makes it sound - the votes in parliament weren't actually about strikes but that's another subject) but I don't think anyone could realistically argue that anyone's life in the UK would be dramatically different today if Ed hadn't won that vote and we'd bombed them up a bit. So maybe the sort of foreign affair "entanglements" we have today just don't matter that much? Don't even know what I'm asking any more.

I'm gonna buy so many goodies in Waitrose on the way home, aww yis.
 
is andrew neil doing any of the beeb coverage this evening?

Speaking of nothing happening abroad, the almost complete lack of Foreign Policy discussion on this campaign - does it represent a) a concensus between the major parties or b) in general no one in the electorate gives a flying fuckeroo? I mean, Miliband (to his shame) and Cam (PHUH) disagreed over Syria, which isn't insignificant (Though the technicalities of it are a little less significant than this headline makes it sound - the votes in parliament weren't actually about strikes but that's another subject) but I don't think anyone could realistically argue that anyone's life in the UK would be dramatically different today if Ed hadn't won that vote and we'd bombed them up a bit. So maybe the sort of foreign affair "entanglements" we have today just don't matter that much? Don't even know what I'm asking any more.

there are zero votes in it this time round.
 

Tak3n

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Speaking of nothing happening abroad, the almost complete lack of Foreign Policy discussion on this campaign - does it represent a) a concensus between the major parties or b) in general no one in the electorate gives a flying fuckeroo? I mean, Miliband (to his shame) and Cam (PHUH) disagreed over Syria, which isn't insignificant (Though the technicalities of it are a little less significant than this headline makes it sound - the votes in parliament weren't actually about strikes but that's another subject) but I don't think anyone could realistically argue that anyone's life in the UK would be dramatically different today if Ed hadn't won that vote and we'd bombed them up a bit. So maybe the sort of foreign affair "entanglements" we have today just don't matter that much? Don't even know what I'm asking any more.

I'm gonna buy so many goodies in Waitrose on the way home, aww yis.

it is generally regarded that foreign policy does not win votes, so it is largely ignored
 

kmag

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Final scores on the doors for the UK wide polls

4 have Con +1 (Opinium, TNS, ComRes, Ipsos Mori, 2 online, 2 phone)
5 have Con and Lab level (Populus, BMG, Survation, YouGov, all online, Ashcroft phone)
1 has Lab +1 (ICM, phone)
1 has Lab +2 Panelbase (online)

Swing to Labour in the final polls

ICM +3
Comres +2
Ashcroft +3
MORI + 5

The move to Labour is very consistent. No move to the Tories at all in any of the polls.

Not sure if this is just natural variation, real movement or a concerted effort by the pollsters to seek the safety of the pack by tweaking their methodology for the final poll.
 

JoeNut

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i am one of the non voters. Not because i didnt want to, but because im an idiot. It seems that my vote was post only and it says on my letter that i can't vote at a polling booth. so i guess i missed out.
 

kmag

Member
remember to keep an eye on the exit polls, they are usually very accurate so we will have a very good idea come 10:30 tonight

The guy running the exit poll for the BBC, Prof John Curtice doesn't think they'll be accurate this time around. They're better when they can just concentrate on a few marginals, the rise of UKIP and the SNP means the amount of seats they need to monitor is bigger than the net they can afford to cast.

The first indication of who’s won Britain’s general election will be an exit poll commissioned by news broadcasters. According to one of the academics putting it together, it’s likely to be imprecise and may well be wrong.
The findings of the country’s only exit poll will be released by the BBC, ITV and Sky News at 10 p.m. on the night of May 7, just as polls close across the U.K.
After successfully calling the election results of 2005 and 2010, the team who generate the poll face a much tougher challenge this time, as traditional voting patterns fracture amid the rise of insurgent groups such as the Scottish Nationalists and the U.K. Independence Party. The pollsters are preparing to hedge their bets.
“Don’t be surprised if the headline is very circumspect, which basically means: ‘Who knows?’” John Curtice, the professor of politics at Strathclyde University who will be analyzing the numbers for the BBC, said in an interview. “Unless the polls are wrong, this is the closest election in 40 years.”
The exit poll, which predicts seat numbers in Parliament rather than vote share, is conducted by interviewing voters at each of 140 carefully selected polling stations -- a total of 20,000 people across Britain -- and measuring the change in voting behavior since the last election.
Never Before
One difficulty the statisticians face is that much of the expected change in voting patterns in this election is happening in places where they haven’t conducted surveys before. Previously, data from a handful of swing seats -- marginals as they’re known in Britain -- could be extrapolated to produce a nationwide picture.
“Once upon a time, you could concentrate on Conservative-Labour marginals, throw in a few Lib Dem seats and basically get it right,” Curtice said. “Until now you could ignore Scotland. You can’t ignore it any more.”
Whereas previous exit polls have only offered predictions for the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats, this year’s will also attempt to say how many seats the Scottish National Party and UKIP will pick up.
Polling stations in Scotland and UKIP target seats -- such as in eastern England -- have been added to the sample to assist in this. Ten more constituencies are being covered than in 2010.
But with UKIP especially, the team is effectively being asked to predict the result of specific local races, something its sample isn’t large enough for.
“Prepare for disappointment,” said Curtice. “It’s almost guaranteed.”
 

Stuart444

Member
Going to vote later on with my Mum when she's done work. She said she had no idea what she was voting yet when I asked her so we'll see. I'm defo voting Labour though anyway. Part of me wanted to vote SNP purely because of the way they have been painted in the media/by other parties (like the whole labour doesn't want a deal with the SNP as well) but I'm sticking with Labour for this election anyway.

I wish i could stay up to watch it all but I had a pretty crap sleep so I wouldn't even make it past 1 in the morning lol. I look forward to finding out what happens in the morning though, especially since a Majority for any one party is pretty much not going to happen lol.
 
i am one of the non voters. Not because i didnt want to, but because im an idiot. It seems that my vote was post only and it says on my letter that i can't vote at a polling booth. so i guess i missed out.

Hmm..you should be able to vote in person with a postal vote, no?
 

Par Score

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ICM having Labour ahead by one in their final poll is huge.

Most of the predictions that have been floating about have had the assumption of a roughly 2 point Tory lead, any sort of Labour lead is likely to give them most seats by a fair distance, even with a total wipe-out in Scotland.

If this movement is real, we're in for a fun night.
 
The main reason the BBC is the best bet on Election night is that really only the beeb have the requisite number of reporters at the counts.

ITV/ITN generally have a decent number due to their regional divisions, but Sky really suffers. They normally have some freelancers, retired journalists, cross shares from their sports channel and international broadcasters.

My partner was a stringer for Sky on the last election. You got double the pay if you phoned in the result before anyone else. Wasn't there to do reporting, just get the result.

I've heard this time they're aiming for about 200 results in video, mainly on iPhones. Rest from wires/stringers.
 

King_Moc

Banned
i am one of the non voters. Not because i didnt want to, but because im an idiot. It seems that my vote was post only and it says on my letter that i can't vote at a polling booth. so i guess i missed out.

The government website says you can hand it into your polling station. Worth a try.
 

nib95

Banned
Speaking of nothing happening abroad, the almost complete lack of Foreign Policy discussion on this campaign - does it represent a) a concensus between the major parties or b) in general no one in the electorate gives a flying fuckeroo? I mean, Miliband (to his shame) and Cam (PHUH) disagreed over Syria, which isn't insignificant (Though the technicalities of it are a little less significant than this headline makes it sound - the votes in parliament weren't actually about strikes but that's another subject) but I don't think anyone could realistically argue that anyone's life in the UK would be dramatically different today if Ed hadn't won that vote and we'd bombed them up a bit. So maybe the sort of foreign affair "entanglements" we have today just don't matter that much? Don't even know what I'm asking any more.

I'm gonna buy so many goodies in Waitrose on the way home, aww yis.

Random story, a few weeks back I bought a sandwich from Waitrose, it was some sort of fish, maybe Tuna I think. In any case, whilst eating it, I found a giant tooth inside it. It looked like a large human molar, only sharper. Took it to the counter to get my money back, and some very obviously camp and flamboyant fella took one look at the tooth, shrieked, and begged me not to hand it to him and instead bin it lol. His reaction made up for the grossness of finding the tooth. I felt like I was making sure he was ok instead of the other way around lol.
 

Par Score

Member
i am one of the non voters. Not because i didnt want to, but because im an idiot. It seems that my vote was post only and it says on my letter that i can't vote at a polling booth. so i guess i missed out.

"If you are in England, Scotland or Wales and you have a postal vote but have not had time to post it before polling day, you can take it to your polling station on polling day and hand it in. Postal votes that arrive after 10pm on May 7 will not be counted."

Go, go, go!
 
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Imagine the feels when the Lab/Con's get the most seats but still lost
 

Futurematic

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It sucks not being able to gamble on elections, lucky Brits.

I also think there might be a bit of a shift back to Labour in Scotland, a few of the SNP canvassers I know have been a bit less enthusive lately. If Labour can get above 15-20 seats here then it'll throw out a lot of the seat predictions.

As SNP will back Labour and therefore put Ed into No. 10--unless Ed decides to back the Tories, as he's threatened--I'll hope you're wrong, the UK could use a stronger anti-austerity wing (which is so weird, everywhere else in the world woke up from that delusion years ago).

All the Scottish polls look good for 50 odd seats though unless there's some weird Shy Labour vote happening, which is pretty unlikely with Murphy's sky high disapproval rating.
 
Originally Posted by JonathanEx

9pm: Channel 4 - Alternative coverage with Paxman, Last Leg, Gogglebox. Through the night with C4 News team.
9pm: Sky News - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: BBC One - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: ITV - Rolling through the night

Nothing until 10pm of note due to legal restrictions on influencing things.

I no rite. 'DON'T VOTE X THEY'RE FUCKING PSYCHOTIC' for 6+ weeks then 'keep schtum, we don't wanna tell you what to do'.
 

Tak3n

Banned
So, do we think any party will get a majority vote?

No, it would be the biggest surprise in election history I reckon, the polls are much better this time, and they have only been well out in 1992

don't believe the rhetoric spewed by the main parties, they know it is a coalition or min government
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Trade in the shop is absolutely dire today. Taken £12 so far. I imagine everybody is hanging round polling stations instead.

Next time round I don't think I'll bother opening.
 

Tak3n

Banned
So just another case of who can do a deal quickest

not this time, the SNP have well and truly thrown the cat among the pigeons..

Lid Dems will be desperate for anyone to take them, hopefully they are left to be the traitors they are and get wiped out

it will be a slow grind this time as it will be argued about in the press, and I just don't know where the dice will fall

best prediction is a minority labour government
 
Final scores on the doors for the UK wide polls

4 have Con +1 (Opinium, TNS, ComRes, Ipsos Mori, 2 online, 2 phone)
5 have Con and Lab level (Populus, BMG, Survation, YouGov, all online, Ashcroft phone)
1 has Lab +1 (ICM, phone)
1 has Lab +2 Panelbase (online)

Swing to Labour in the final polls

ICM +3
Comres +2
Ashcroft +3
MORI + 5

The move to Labour is very consistent. No move to the Tories at all in any of the polls.

Not sure if this is just natural variation, real movement or a concerted effort by the pollsters to seek the safety of the pack by tweaking their methodology for the final poll.

great work kmag. You've been a trooper with the stats
 
Trade in the shop is absolutely dire today. Taken £12 so far. I imagine everybody is hanging round polling stations instead.

Next time round I don't think I'll bother opening.

Put up a sign saying you'll allow horses and dogs in, you'll trash the polling stations in footfall.

In other news, #DogsAtPollingStations is trending no 4 in the UK.
 
The main reason the BBC is the best bet on Election night is that really only the beeb have the requisite number of reporters at the counts.

ITV/ITN generally have a decent number due to their regional divisions, but Sky really suffers. They normally have some freelancers, retired journalists, cross shares from their sports channel and international broadcasters.
Sky are claiming they'll be at more counts than anyone else using the "latest digital technology", whatever the frig that is. Skype or some shit most likely.

9pm: Channel 4 - Alternative coverage with Paxman, Last Leg, Gogglebox. Through the night with C4 News team.
9pm: Sky News - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: BBC One - Rolling through the night
9.55pm: ITV - Rolling through the night

Nothing until 10pm of note due to legal restrictions on influencing things.
Sky Arts 1 will be showing a live behind-the-scenes of Sky News from 9:50PM, which might be more interesting than actually watching Sky News.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Just occurred to me that there could be an outside chance of an SNP minority government if the arithmetic doesn't add up for Labour or Tories.

Now that would be entertaining!
 

Mindwipe

Member
Can it be as cringeworthy as the antics on the boat last election?

Everyone I know who works at the BBC was fucking livid about that boat. Nobody could understand what BBC News was possibly thinking, or who had found the money for it in an organisation that is tighter than a gnat's arse for day to day employees expenses.
 
Sky are claiming they'll be at more counts than anyone else using the "latest digital technology", whatever the frig that is. Skype or some shit most likely.

Sky Arts 1 will be showing a live behind-the-scenes of Sky News from 9:50PM, which might be more interesting than actually watching Sky News.

Yeah, just some Skype-like app they use specially for broadcast.

And I feel silly for forgetting Sky Arts 1! I hope they put together something with it afterwards - I'd like to watch it, but not on the night.
 
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