GazzaScotland
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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Unless we become so impatient that we need every result in minutes instead of hours, there's no real reason to change. Paper is nice and accountable, cheap, and doesn't crash. Plus I can't spoil a computer ballot.
Bony Manifesto
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Spoke too soon there eh?
NekoFever
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None of them are going to crow about it being right because they'll look stupid if it's wrong.
Flawed democracy
Shit non-representative electoral system.
Food banks through the roof.
Wider gulf of inequality than ever before.
A huge part of the nation voting for anti Westminster parties and liberal leaning parties.
Of course people are going to be pissed off.
ShemhazaiX
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http://www.dontbeafuckingidiot.uk/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ramesh-patel/growth-cameron-austerity_b_2007552.html
http://benjaminstudebaker.com/2015/05/02/britain-for-the-love-of-god-please-stop-david-cameron/
You really shouldn't trust the Tories with the economy. I'd say they don't have a clue what they're doing, but that's a gigantic lie, because they know exactly what they're doing. They're making shit up and claiming austerity is the way to go because they know that the common person doesn't know fucking anything about economics and will vote because it makes sense. They said they'd cut the deficit. They've barely made a scratch after five years of decimating the civil service. My mom will be out of a job next year if they get back in and she's worked the civil service all of her life, and she's supporting me and my sister on her own because all these "Jobs" the Tories keep talking about people having are zero hours contracts that barely cover the cost of food.
They can go fuck themselves.
Mr. Luchador
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It does seem stupid that a party can get twice as many votes as another party, but only gain half the seats.
Am I naive in wanting a referendum just because I expect the UK to want to stay in? Hopefully to put it to bed for good, so that UKIP can fuck off.
AHA-Lambda
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Yes but all the no support is split about 5 ways while all Yes will back SNP.
CyclopsRock
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Oh god. These amateurs can't count for shit. All pissed up on Newc'y Brown.
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Perhaps that was the universe slowly rebooting.
MrRoflWaffles
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Surely this seeming obsession with rushing to count the votes is more than likely to mean more mistakes are made when making the count?
jimbobsmells
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Unless your name is Michael Gove.
If in a true democracy, then yes the mentality is wrong.
But this is FPTP and it is frankly absurd.
Cob32
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Wish I didn't have work tomorrow and could stay up and watch this. It's crazy these poll differences.
Mr. Luchador
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Professor John Currtice looks like the maddest alcoholic Professor of Crazy Science ever. I like him.
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The margin is very rarely under ~2500 votes so they'd have to be really cocking up to make a difference.
Keyser Soze
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Sky News have done great work on their graphics... super crisp looking
Really late posting this but damn, that exit poll. Would be huge, but I can't help but think there's a huge margin of error. Seems way too unexpected and unprecedented to be true.
EDIT: Has anyone got exit poll and actual result numbers for 2010? Wondering how accurate it was.
EDIT: Has anyone got exit poll and actual result numbers for 2010? Wondering how accurate it was.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Guy is using he same exit polls structure as before... But I think the election this year is very different and highly regionalised.
Sir_Crocodile
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That would be the best news of the night. Would help me vote labour next time too.
I trust it more then a computer
jimbobsmells
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Needs more Forza crowds.
That Sky subscription money being put to good use.
CyclopsRock
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Tbh why do they even bother counting here? Sunderland should just get definitive victory, declare at 10.01pm. "Labour".
Psychotext
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Fuck it, I'm hitting the hard stuff. Going to be a long night.
MrRoflWaffles
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He's always good to listen to
Masquerader
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Up against a machine too strong~
BlazingDarkness
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Sunderland results
I think the difference between the opinion and the exit polls might suggest the right-wing press had some influence (plus threatening emails from letting agents and the like). If fear mongering, misinformation and awkward photos got people to vote against their own interests, that's not great democracy. If huge campaign donation and smear ads decide it.
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Yes. Sounds right.
Sir_Crocodile
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tories came behind ukip in sunderland!
Mr. Luchador
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UKIP more than CONs in Sunderland. haha ffs
Oh sweet Greens more than Lib Dems!
Oh sweet Greens more than Lib Dems!
CyclopsRock
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That Sunderland Tory looks a bit like Rod Liddle.
Edit: Hubba hubba, she can be my MP any day.
Edit: Hubba hubba, she can be my MP any day.
Kotetsu534
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Spending six months volunteering in a CAB and frequently dealing with the DWP on behalf of poor/vulnerable clients soured me for good on the relentless "chop benefits down" agenda to which I once subscribed. People would get wrongly sanctioned if their only income (e.g. they told the DWP in advance, but they decide not to take that into account, so they get their benefits docked for two weeks) and leave in tears, especially if responsible for children. Many (though not all) of the DWP and Jobcentre staff I had to negotiate with were insensitive and cheeky.
I found the most cynical benefit claimants are the least likely to fall foul of benefits clampdowns (they're usually literate, speak and read/write good English, are very assertive etc.) while shy dependents, often claiming only one benefit, don't stick up for themselves. They're the most likely to hold back information ahead of PIP and ESA assessments or "massage" it down while more cynical claimants will exaggerate and act like their problems are huge when they're manageable.
This isn't to say I'm for ever-increasing government subventions as a long term solution to the nation's problems, but I'm convinced that saving a few per cent off the DWP's bill by taking money off the unemployed and disabled is not going to do anything other than inflict harm on blameless and often humble, people. If the Tories go ahead with a £12bn reduction in the DWP bill, and don't touch pensions, there will be hundreds of truly desperate stories over the next government.
I found the most cynical benefit claimants are the least likely to fall foul of benefits clampdowns (they're usually literate, speak and read/write good English, are very assertive etc.) while shy dependents, often claiming only one benefit, don't stick up for themselves. They're the most likely to hold back information ahead of PIP and ESA assessments or "massage" it down while more cynical claimants will exaggerate and act like their problems are huge when they're manageable.
This isn't to say I'm for ever-increasing government subventions as a long term solution to the nation's problems, but I'm convinced that saving a few per cent off the DWP's bill by taking money off the unemployed and disabled is not going to do anything other than inflict harm on blameless and often humble, people. If the Tories go ahead with a £12bn reduction in the DWP bill, and don't touch pensions, there will be hundreds of truly desperate stories over the next government.
GazzaScotland
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Sky's graphics are nice. Putting up the number of votes as there announced.
Captain Smirk
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The north has begun to speak...cover it in red
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