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[Yen]

Despite thinking we're now fucked, it's great watching the Labour big dogs and all Lib Dems go.

 

[real_slime]

They just updated it again to more appropriate numbers. Must've been a data entry error.

Which is the one Scottish constituency that the SNP is not projected to win?

i believe it's down in berwick, at the border. it is thought maybe to go conservative.

 

[CyclopsRock]

Time to get the nutella back out again.

 

[iMax]

Labour Party HQ source: "Ed has to resign tomorrow. Everyone here accepts that."

 

[Mr. RHC]

I will end this torture:

 

[Moosichu]

Labour aren't going to go left. There is no more left. Suppose they won every single vote they lost to the Greens and kept all of their votes from this election. They'd still not win. It is just an arithmetic truth that Labour has to move towards the centre.

Or create there own narrative. By not opposing anything the Tories say, the political spectrum will just shift further and further right.

 

[Rodhull]

They just updated it again to more appropriate numbers. Must've been a data entry error.

Which is the one Scottish constituency that the SNP is not projected to win?

Must be Orkney and Shetland. Likely to be Lib Dem Hold I think.

 

[Pankratous]

SNP Motherwell too. Cray.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Some Conservatives are. Some aren't.

Even IF we got a referendum there will be a grotesque media blitz the likes of which this country has never seen. Every time a kipper sticks his head out over the parapet he'll get bombed and strafed like a panzer division during overlord.

 

[WayneMorse]

I will end this torture:

That's more like it.

 

[Jezbollah]

Sky News: "Labour sources say they can't see how Ed Miliband can remain as leader"

 

[Beefy]

Looking bad for Labour on the south coast.

 

[fenners]

I will end this torture:

LOL.

 

[MrRoflWaffles]

Welp, the "Cannabis is safer than alcohol" party in Inverclyde got more votes than the Lib Dems did in Castle Point.

Rekt.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Or create there own narrative. By not opposing anything the Tories say, the political spectrum will just shift further and further right.

They've been trying to create their own narrative for the last 5 years. You can't magically create your own narrative. You need the support of the press - something that, for example, the SNP has because of Salmond's excellent relationship with Murdoch, and something that Labour does not have, because of Miliband's support of Leveson.

 

[Heartfyre]

I will end this torture:

Must have been a glitch in the system. Sorry for the unnecessary added grief, folks.

 

[Oogedei]

WHAT?

Can anyone confirm? Surely it's far too early to be saying things like that?!

According to some Labour sources he is excepted to.

 

[WayneMorse]

So hung parliament and fresh election this year with new Labour leader?

 

[CyclopsRock]

In the last 40 years or so, there's a pretty strong correlation between Labour going to the right and "not losing", though, tbf.

 

[Yen]

Welp, the "Cannabis is safer than alcohol" party in Inverclyde got more votes than the Lib Dems did in Castle Point.

Rekt.

They beat a few NI Tories too. Why NI Tories exist I don't know.

 

[Jezbollah]

SNP GAIN Renfrewshire East from Labour

JIM MURPHY IS FUCKING TOAST

 

[giant_frying_pan]

Seeya Jim.

 

[kmag]

Murphy gone! Fuck you jum

 

[offshore]

Murphy gone!

:lol :lol :lol

 

[twobear]

Well you're welome to, but the combined seat count of the Tories and Labour suggest and enormous public appetite for the cuts. Which then ended up being relatively small. So when someone says "cut faster than ever", it's not saying much.

no, the point is that the cuts weren't as bad as the tories said they would be, and yet they still managed to stall economic recovery for 2+ years. now that the economy has recovered, the cuts will be worse than before.

the conservatives have pulled of a massive confidence trick by convincing people that they handled the economic recovery well and that they did it with austerity. it would be hard to find a less successful economic policy being implemented in a western democracy in the past 25 years.

i completely pin some of the blame on the labour party as i mentioned; their time in opposition has been marked by actually agreeing with the tory party's lies about a) the cause of the recession, and b) how to fix it. you couldn't ask for a worse left wing opposition party.

Labour aren't going to go left. There is no more left. Suppose they won every single vote they lost to the Greens and kept all of their votes from this election. They'd still not win. It is just an arithmetic truth that Labour has to move towards the centre.

maybe there'd be a left if labour hadn't cowtowed and gone along with all of the tories' lies and mistruths from the past five years. just saying.

 

[GazzaScotland]

Murphy is OUT!

 

[Pankratous]

JIM MURPHY LOSES SEAT OMG!

 

[Audioboxer]

Jim Murphy lost! Fuck

 

[Yamauchi]

Wow, Jim Murphy defeated

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Lol Murphy.

Actually kinda feel bad for him.

 

[Willy Wanka]

Murphy gone, haha.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Fuck yes, see ya Jim.

 

[Varion]

Oh boy, there goes Murphy. Nothing stops the SNP train now.

 

[Kinky John]

Ha! Jim Murphy gone!

 

[fenners]

Murphy is gone. What a shame. What a SHAME.

 

[Kathian]

Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes

Is it foolish to hope his at least humbles Murphy?

 

[GazzaScotland]

Totally worth staying up for just that.

 

[Carl]

I will end this torture:

This would be much more like it.

E: Maybe too many LD

 

[giant_frying_pan]

They just updated it again to more appropriate numbers. Must've been a data entry error.

Which is the one Scottish constituency that the SNP is not projected to win?

Edinburgh South so basically a wee England

 

[PipefishUK]

Looking bad for Labour on the south coast.

That's not news is it?

They always do shit here, bar that bit in Southampton. Itchen?

 

[Deleted member 231381]

no, the point is that the cuts weren't as bad as the tories said they would be, and yet they still managed to stall economic recovery for 2+ years. now that the economy has recovered, the cuts will be worse than before.

the conservatives have pulled of a massive confidence trick by convincing people that they handled the economic recovery well and that they did it with austerity. it would be hard to find a less successful economic policy being implemented in a western democracy in the past 25 years.

i completely pin some of the blame on the labour party as i mentioned; their time in opposition has been marked by actually agreeing with the tory party's lies about a) the cause of the recession, and b) how to fix it. you couldn't ask for a worse left wing opposition party.

Now sit down and actually think about what you're saying. Suppose that Labour decides to try and attack the Conservatives about the cause and solution to the recession. People don't actually listen to political parties. About one in twenty people pays more than the most passing attention to politics. The rest take it in through secondary sources, often without applying a critical filter. Those secondary sources are the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Daily Herald, and so on. That means Labour has to try and get these arguments through those sources. That's never going to happen. Ever.

Miliband had the right ideas. He had great ideas. He did attack the Conservatives about the cause of the recession early on, before realizing how pointless it was. Criticizing him about that is just wrong, and unfair to him. Labour won't win until they win the press.

 

[Kathian]

North East was the hold? Not Orkeney? Am going with all Scottish seats. Holy flying fuck.

 

[Quinnzel]

Woo SNP got North Ayrshire! Can finally head to bed, Sturegeonmania running wild across the shop!

 

[giant_frying_pan]

Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes

Is it foolish to hope his at least humbles Murphy?

Nah he'll blame the SNP for the Tories doing well, only Labour would have blah blah blah.

Prove me wrong, Jim.

 

[DECK'ARD]

This would be much more like it.

Conservatives too low, Lib Dems too high.

They've been off all night and just getting closer to the exit poll as it goes on.

Basically they suck.

 

[pootle]

Totally worth staying up for just that.

Our own wee Portillo moment. Beautiful. Kirsten Oswald's speech was very good. Murphy is still an arse. He has had that we lost speech written for weeks. I really really don't think that this is a person that anybody needs to listen to. All he did tonight was to try to keep his gravy train going a bit longer. Keep his snout in the trough. Shameless.

 

[Slowdive]

 

[CyclopsRock]

Sounds like Ed's leaving tomorrow. Who will replace him, I wonder? Surely not Ed Balls, since a) everyone fucking detests him and b) he'll then be tarnished by Brown and Miliband. I mean, it's not like he's made of rubber. He's made of shit. Shitty balls.

 

[popo]

Is that the guy out of Lewis? never knew he was a politician as well as an actor.

 

[kmag]

North East was the hold? Not Orkeney? Am going with all Scottish seats. Holy flying fuck.

Glasgow North East is probably SNP. They're not saying it is yet but they're very confident.