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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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CyclopsRock

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godelsmetric said:
why can't we criticise labour? both parties had laughably terrible proposed plans for 'recovery'
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Well you're welome to, but the combined seat count of the Tories and Labour suggest and enormous public appetite for the cuts. Which then ended up being relatively small. So when someone says "cut faster than ever", it's not saying much.

In other news, I don't know why they don't have Jeremy Vine's shadow on the floor! That's one of the nicest thing about having green floors in a studio - even if you can't do real time reflections, they should be able to key the shadow easily!
 
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Heartfyre

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Christ almighty.

EDIT: Hang on a minute. 53 LDs? I call shenanigans.
 
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QuicheFontaine

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CyclopsRock said:
Well you're welome to, but the combined seat count of the Tories and Labour suggest and enormous public appetite for the cuts. Which then ended up being relatively small. So when someone says "cut faster than ever", it's not saying much.

In other news, I don't know why they don't have Jeremy Vine's shadow on the floor! That's one of the nicest thing about having green floors in a studio - even if you can't do real time reflections, they should be able to key the shadow easily!
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Maybe Vine doesn't have a shadow?
 
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Confirmation coming in Ed Balls is slightly behind in his seat.
 
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kmag

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Anyone thing the Tories are now going. Fuck me what did we promise again? They made a lot of cash money promises they thought coalition would prevent them having to deliver.
 
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"Mike O’Brien, the former Labour minister, has failed to take North Warwickshire back from the Conservatives. The Tories’ majority in 2010 was just 54, and this was Labour’s top target."
 
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pootle

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I love how totally calm the returning officers all try to be. They know they are on telly and all their friends and relatives are watching and recording it. Good for them all I would bottle it big time.
 
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QuicheFontaine

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kmag said:
Anyone thing the Tories are now going. Fuck me what did we promise again? They made a lot of cash money promises they thought coalition would prevent them having to deliver.
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I can't believe the EU referendum might actually come to pass. I was sure that was a bluff.
 
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my hope is that the message for the labour party from this shitshow is that being in opposition means being in opposition, that is, offering some alternative to what the party that's in power is presenting

since labour are, at least hypothetically, a left-wing party, that would be a left-wing alternative to the absolutely disastrous economic policies that the tories have implemented, and will continue to implement, during their time in power

unfortunately, i worry that the message they'll get is that they need to be more right-wing, more xenophobic, more driven by the bogus ideology of austerity

in short i think this is probably the most disastrous event in british politics for a generation for anyone with left-leaning views
 
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nib95

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CyclopsRock said:
Well you're welome to, but the combined seat count of the Tories and Labour suggest and enormous public appetite for the cuts. Which then ended up being relatively small. So when someone says "cut faster than ever", it's not saying much.

In other news, I don't know why they don't have Jeremy Vine's shadow on the floor! That's one of the nicest thing about having green floors in a studio - even if you can't do real time reflections, they should be able to key the shadow easily!
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I don't think that's it at all. I'd imagine much of the return to economic crisis and immigration fear mongering took precedence over the benefits of more leftist policies for a lot of poorer or working class voters.
 
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The conservatives are winning the elections I suppose?

Time to jump on that right-wing bandwagon, because most voters in European countries want austerity, lower taxation and the dismantling of public services. Similar result in Finland with conservative parties forming a majority coalition.
 
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fenners

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pashmilla said:
What in the hell happened though? Has there ever been a case of the polls being so astoundingly wrong before?
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1992 was the big one.

Was at my girlfriend's house in Hamilton, drinking with her parents & her, celebrating the widely expected Labour win from polls & early results. Walked back home to Motherwell, Tories winning.

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Polls were completely & utterly wrong - that whole "silent Tory" thing.
 
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real_slime

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Angry Fork said:
So what are the main reasons Labour lost? Based on reading people from the UK on twitter I get the impression it's because they betrayed Scotland during the independence vote and it came back to bite them? And Ed is too nerdy looking? What else?
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If Labour had kept every Scottish seat, they would still be down based on the exit polls. If they were doing well in England, they could use the SNP to legitimise a minority government. The votes gone to SNP were never Conservative, and are anti-conservative, so it wouldn't have changed the result in terms of whether Labour or Conservative had a basis to form a government. That part is down to those two parties.
 
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godelsmetric said:
my hope is that the message for the labour party from this shitshow is that being in opposition means being in opposition, that is, offering some alternative to what the party that's in power is presenting

since labour are, at least hypothetically, a left-wing party, that would be a left-wing alternative to the absolutely disastrous economic policies that the tories have implemented, and will continue to implement, during their time in power

unfortunately, i worry that the message they'll get is that they need to be more right-wing, more xenophobic, more driven by the bogus ideology of austerity

in short i think this is probably the most disastrous event in british politics for a generation for anyone with left-leaning views
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Labour aren't going to go left. There is no more left. Suppose they won every single vote they lost to the Greens and kept all of their votes from this election. They'd still not win. It is just an arithmetic truth that Labour has to move towards the centre.
 
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fenners

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I don't see how UKIP gets as much as 20 & SNP get "only" 30.. 538 got it horribly wrong last time & I know they changed their sources/methodology,
 
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JonathanEx

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Crab said:
Labour aren't going to go left. There is no more left. Suppose they won every single vote they lost to the Greens and kept all of their votes from this election. They'd still not win. It is just an arithmetic truth that Labour has to move towards the centre.
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It seems the way Labour would do any good is that if the Tories somehow tank the economy.
 
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