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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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Maledict

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Are the Lib Dems going to be the party of the Orkney and Shetland Isles? I cannot see how they hold their seats in the south west in these sort of circumstances.
 
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Maledict said:
Are the Lib Dems going to be the party of the Orkney and Shetland Isles? I cannot see how they hold their seats in the south west in these sort of circumstances.
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Don't forget Ceredigion.
 
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Griss said:
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You pretty much nail my feelings on the matter. I'm a Brit (albeit a young one and a first time voter).

Options-wise, I feel like the Greens are an appealing vote for the left, though they seem for many to be a party of ideas but not of actual change, and not of actual working policies. They've had their fair share of questionable moves, and despite their clear left-ward stance, they still aren't a viable vote for many.

So, Labour? Personally, that's how I voted, and that's who I would like to see in power, but as you said, the issue with Ed is his message and vision is totally obscured. The anti-left media campaign to "keep Red Ed out" has been in full swing and seems to hold unfortunately large sway over a large number of would-be Labour voters. I've grown up in a working class home, with working class friends, and I know plenty who still believe voting Conservative is a better vote for "the poor" than a vote for Miliband would be.

So, I voted Labour in good faith that Ed's more leftward leaning values would flourish with a win? Perhaps. The greens seem unrealistic and the Tories are an abhorrent option. Memories of Blair are much less clear in my mind - I was a bit young to be focusing on British politics at the time - so maybe I'd have gone one step further and gone green if I was better informed, but I really did and do feel like Labour would be the best party for the UK in the next 5 years.

4:37am. This has been a fun first election to be a part of. Pretty dang tired right now though.
 
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Crab said:
The UK Conservative is probably the least rightwing right party in the Anglosphere, Australia and New Zealand would both probably be better bets for you.
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I forgot about Abbott. Now that I think about if I had to move it probably would be to Australia. As far as Anglosphere leaders go there's something I really like about Stephen Harper for some reason. I don't think its about his policies or anything I just like the way he speaks. He's got a weird kind of charisma.
 
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Zimmy64 said:
Are you serious? I'm a Conservative Republican and I can tell you the United States seems like a bad fit for you. Even if Hilary is elected in 2016 by 2024 there will be a Republican President that will make Cameron look like Marx.

On a unrelated note I'm jealous of all you liberals who say you'll move if a Conservative Government is elected. If Hilary is elected in 2016 there is no place for me to go (Not that I'd ever leave just because I don't like my country's politics). The US is the last bastion of true conservatism on earth. There is no other conservative party that I feel would truly represent my views. Likud, the UK Conservative Party, or the Canadian Conservative party comes the closest, but there still a ways away.
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You speak with such conviction on this!

And the American political movements are gradually shifting leftward with our diversifying younger generations. The Republican Party in 2030 won't really resemble what it is today and will probably have a significantly more Libertarian streak.
 
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Oh shit, there goes Cable too. Liked the guy until the coalition began, but after that? Yeah, he won't be missed.

Damn, you could see him wincing when they read the Conservative result out.
 
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Lib Dems just defended their 4th seat, Southport.

and 5th: Carshalton.
 
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Crab said:
I mean, you're right that America is driving leftwards and us rightwards, but it will be a significant amount of time, at least decades, before the two could meet. The US political system is specifically designed to stunt any kind of serious reform, and the Republican party still place a frame on the kind of debates that are held in the US even if they're not serious electoral candidates for the time being. It just seems a very weird statement to say "I'm displeased with the state of egalitarianism in this country, so I'm going to move to a much less egalitarian country".
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The biggest problem with the anglosphere is labors relative small power. That's what gets left wing economic policy. But its been smashed all over the English speaking world.

Its still pretty powerful in France and germany to my knowledge, not sure about Nordic countries
 
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Vince Cable: to paraphrase: " lost because of a national campaign of fear of Labour & the SNP".... Scotland again, responsible for every bad LibDem decision while allied to the Tories.

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Liberal Democrats have lost 20 seats, defended 5, 32 still to call.
 
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Varion said:
Oh shit, there goes Cable too. Liked the guy until the coalition began, but after that? Yeah, he won't be missed.

Damn, you could see him wincing when they read the Conservative result out.
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All of the 'positives' of the scant economic recovery and the much-repeated 'long-term, economic plan' can be attributed to Vince Cable.

That's probably the biggest single blow to the country as a whole.

Gideon could have more free reign? I'm shuddering.
 
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fenners

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Dan27 said:
Oof. Tories took Bath from the Lib Dems.

A 24% swing!
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Only 24%? SNP say lol.

Andrew Marr to Boris: "What kind of offer should the Conservative gov make to the SNP?"

"Even most people in the SNP ... want to keep the basis of the United Kingdom... there is scope there for some kind of federal structure. By the way, we should also have further devolved powers to English Cities...."

Marr: "Could involve an english parliament?"

Boris: "We have an English parliament already. It's called Westminster".

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