I mean
this is patently false and completely absurd
over the past 20 years, the dems have made major strides in improving social welfare in the USA; the tories have made equivalent strides in dismantling it in the UK
in what sense does this make the dems worse than the tories? one of those parties gives a shit about people on the street; the other does not
Can they get another two to avoid getting overtaken by the DUP?6 Lib Dems, can they get another 4?
Been a good couple of days for balls jokes in the newsBalls is gone. Multiple sources confirming it.
So, Danny Alexander and Nige next on the chopping block isnt it?
I didn't say the dems were worse than the tories I said that you'd have to deal with more than just dems.
I didn't compare the dems and tories. I compared the tories and the republicans.
Danny Alexander is gone, it's just not been announced yet.
Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
If Warrington South holds CON. Then im leaving for siberia.
Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
I have a bone to pick with you UK PoliGaf. Why do you still call your conservatives Tories? Its absurd. Its like if Americans still called the Republicans Whigs. I doesn't make sense. Excuse my ignorance if there is a good reason for it. Its just always bothered me.
Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
Labour's safe seats are being called earlier than the Tories's safe seats. Meanwhile, Tories have been getting their marginals while Labour has been losing theirs.Can you Brits explain something to me...
So, I've followed this election via NPR and BBC World Service not really close but listening/reading every day, and for weeks they were calling the closest election in an era and the Conservatives losing seats to Labour and then some other mixups and interest... and all.
ANd then today I'm driving home (East Coast, US, 5 hours behind you all) and the story has changed... It's Conservatives unexpectedly picking up seats, and Labour apparently getting trounced. So, here it is 6 hours after then and I'm online looking at numbers... And almost every count has Labour ahead with some ~128 seats compared to ~104 for Conservatives. So... are these seats being counted for Labour like "sure fire" seats and the remaining 300 or so seats are mostly Conservative (or LibDem, Scottish National Party, etc), or what?
Just seems like Labour still has a steady ~20 seat lead, yet every news report seems to be falling all over themselves in despair.
The story of the election is how seemingly ALL the polls had got it drastically wrong, or that everyone polled were not honest, if they have the obligation to do so.
More or less everyone here were predicting a hung Parliament with around 20-30 seats between the Labour and Conservative parties.
Then, once the Exit polls dropped, it was a genuine WTF moment.
I have a bone to pick with you UK PoliGaf. Why do you still call your conservatives Tories? Its absurd. Its like if Americans still called the Republicans Whigs. I doesn't make sense. Excuse my ignorance if there is a good reason for it. Its just always bothered me.
I have a bone to pick with you UK PoliGaf. Why do you still call your conservatives Tories? Its absurd. Its like if Americans still called the Republicans Whigs. I doesn't make sense. Excuse my ignorance if there is a good reason for it. Its just always bothered me.
Tory is just short for Conservative...