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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!

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Kito

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The welsh woman was a waste of space.

She was the realest of them all. Only one that made an admission on Farage's immigration statement, and interjected several times to refute statements rather than irrelevantly project her own agenda like the rest. Her '70 Labour MPs using zero-hour' Ed K.O. was beautiful.

Plaid Cymru have my vote.

The SNP leader is rightly most popular because of all her idealist drivel.
 

tomtom94

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Peter Kellner is saying Farage and Sturgeon are above 20% in early figures.

Sturgeon sure, but Farage? That's crazy.

The people voting for Farage in the polls are the ones who are just happy to see UKIP on screen, I think. Probably would have a significant overlap with the people who polled in favour of the Lib Dems after last election's debates.
 
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Kellner has:

Sturgeon
Farage
Cameron
Miliband
Clegg
Bennett
Wood
 

kmag

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Sturgeon walked that. Yougov has her winning 29% to Farage's 20%, Cameron 18%, Miliband 15%

ICM 'forced choice' between Miliband/Cameron 50/50
 
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Sturgeon walked that. Yougov has her winning 29% to Farage's 20%, Cameron 18%, Miliband 15%

ICM 'forced choice' between Miliband/Cameron 50/50

Forced choice is probably the important one, sort of obvious Miliband won't do so well when Sturgeon is dominating the leftwing vote.
 

kmag

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Yvette Cooper is a walking position line giving machine. You can here the campaign directors lines getting loaded up when she gets added a question.
 
1. Sturgeon the boss
2. Miliband 'look into my eyes, not around the eyes'
3. Cameron 'but the last labour government fucked up! Remember!?'
4. The heckler
5. Moustache man
6. The young Tory boy who asked the first question and his awkward first date.
7. Farage for the laughs
8. Leanne wood for the wank bank
9. Clegg the waste of space
10. Bennett for potentially losing some green votes
 

kmag

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Forced choice is probably the important one, sort of obvious Miliband won't do so well when Sturgeon is dominating the leftwing vote.

Full ICM

ICM - Full results - Miliband wins by a whisker - Miliband 25%, Cameron 24%

Miliband: 25%

Cameron: 24%

Farage: 19%

Sturgeon: 17%

Clegg: 9%

Bennett: 3%

Wood: 2%
 

offshore

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Sturgeon 28.1%
Farage 20.3%
Cameron 17.6%
Miliband 14.8%
Clegg 10.4%
Bennett 4.7%
Wood 4.2%
sample 1,1117

Say YouGov
why oh why didn't I put money on Sturgeon winning?

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e. wait, ICM is different?

Which poll are bookies using?
 

pulsemyne

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Full ICM

ICM - Full results - Miliband wins by a whisker - Miliband 25%, Cameron 24%

Miliband: 25%

Cameron: 24%

Farage: 19%

Sturgeon: 17%

Clegg: 9%

Bennett: 3%

Wood: 2%

Lets face it this debate really isn't going to do much to the polls.
 
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That is an enormous difference between the three pollsters.
 

tomtom94

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If it's anything like the "sentiment scores" I see for tweets elsewhere, I'm sure it's bollocks, but thought this was worth sharing anyway. Allegedly this is the number of positive versus negative tweets for each leader:

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If it's anything like the "sentiment scores" I see for tweets elsewhere, I'm sure it's bollocks, but thought this was worth sharing anyway. Allegedly this is the number of positive versus negative tweets for each leader:

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Twitter sentiment accounts are not very accurate, they're dominated by the 24-30 age demographic m
 

kmag

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Lets face it this debate really isn't going to do much to the polls.

It's going to do absolutely nothing. It might reinforce the SNP in Scotland because I think Sturgeon will get the best press because frankly she seemed head and shoulders above the rest of them in terms of presentation, content and control of her brief.
 

Omikaru

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My personal ranking:

1. Sturgeon
2. Wood
3. Bennett
4. Miliband
5. Clegg
6. Cameron
7. Farage

If I was in Scotland, I'd vote SNP. Sturgeon dominated the discussion on anti-austerity policies.
 
I think this might make it harder for the Tories to attack Labour over the SNP thing - the SNP clearly resonate across Britain.

Overall, no real impact but interested.
 

Randdalf

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Sturgeon definitely impressed me the most, but since its impossible for me to vote for her party, living at the opposite end of the country, it doesn't really matter.
 
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I don't know if it's just the raw results at the moment. Do they weight these snap polls?

I assume so. I'm not actually sure. YouGOV uses panellists normally, though, so I'm unsure how their weighting will work in a snap poll.
 

TomRL

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Sturgen and the Welsh one keep going on about wanting jobs and good education for their respective countries. I don't understand why they are in this debate if they are only concerned about their own region.
 
Didn't watch the debate myself, 7 lying scum bags trying to out lie each other isn't really my cup of tea. I have the YouGov daily app on my phone and they have just asked what peoples opinion of the debate were :-


make of it what you will
 

Omikaru

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Sturgen and the Welsh one keep going on about wanting jobs and good education for their respective countries. I don't understand why they are in this debate if they are only concerned about their own region.

Because they may hold the balance of power in Westminster. I think it's only fair that even English voters know what they will do.
 

kmag

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ComRes

More likely to vote for as a result of debate @ITVNews #leadersdebate
Lab 30%
Con 29%
UKIP 22%
Lib Dem 11%
Greens 9%
SNP 6%
Plaid Cymru 1%
 
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ComRes

More likely to vote for as a result of debate @ITVNews #leadersdebate
Lab 30%
Con 29%
UKIP 22%
Lib Dem 11%
Greens 9%
SNP 6%
Plaid Cymru 1%

Given Scotland is what, 9% of UK population, that 6% is pretty impressive.
 

kmag

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Google has been sharing with us the most googled questions through the debate. They were:

Who is winning the leader’s debate?
Who should I vote for?
Who is Nigel Farage married to?
What is a referendum?
Where is Natalie Bennett from?
Can I vote for the SNP?
How do I register to vote?
How tall is Nigel Farage?
What is austerity?
What does Plaid Cymru mean?
And the leaders in order of the popularity of their google search:

1. Leanne Wood (one handed googling for the milf crowd)
2. Nicola Sturgeon
3. Natalie Bennett
4. Ed Miliband
5. Nigel Farage
6. Nick Clegg
7. David Cameron
 
Moar liek Leanne Would ;)
Sturgen and the Welsh one keep going on about wanting jobs and good education for their respective countries. I don't understand why they are in this debate if they are only concerned about their own region.
If you can't understand that people from other regions are watching then I don't know what to say.
 
It's a scary thought to me that there are apparently a lot of people who will vote UKIP at the next election. The thought of a UKIP/Tory coalition is the stuff of nightmares.
 
That Farage is scoring high after literally saying all of the country's problems are due to foreigners means I pretty much won't mind it so much when Russia nukes us.
 

MrS

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1. Clegg
2. Sturgeon
3. Cameron
4. Miliband
5. Farage
6. Wood
7. Bennett

Clegg as 1? Don't be crazy, he was awful and spouting his usual line of bullshit. The man fucked over the students and will hopefully lose his seat.

Everybody was disappointing and neither DC or EM were Prime Ministerial imo.
 
I think the Housing crisis in the uk could be solved with this.

Rent to purchase house via co-equity system to avoid mortgages:

Positive for buyer = There is no Mortgage to default on.

Positive for bank = Rental income better than mortgage income.

so

House is for sale at £100k

Tenant inputs 10k capital

Bank inputs 90k capital.

Property owned by both as 10% equity for tenant and 90% equity for bank.



Say market rate for the rent is £500 per month

so over the year tenant pays £6000, [£500 x 12]

so rent income is then split between property owners

90% to bank = £5400

10% to tenant = £600

Tenant can decide to reinvest his 10% to buy more equity at the end of the year, plus use any capital they want to buy more equity.

So say £600 is used to buy 0.6% of equity automatically, this will slowly build equity every year.

As equity increases, rental income is split in proportion the following year.

Tenant can at any time decide to buy more equity in the property. that will immediately affect the rental property income split.

Could this work?
 
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