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May 7th | UK General Election 2015 OT - Please go vote!
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Laughing at Cameron's failed attempts to connect with the working classes is always fair. One day I hope someone asks him what his favourite Smiths album is.
PJV3
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Don't ever do that, I'm with Johnny Marr on the subject.
As am I, it's just be funny seeing him squirm trying to think of an answer.
He'd probably just do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMSUQE36us
He'd probably just do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMSUQE36us
SymbiantXenos
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Fucking hell lol Theresa May the sky won't fall in.
IdreamofHIME
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Hmmm, Roasting Chicken.
why did the tories even bother campaigning for the union to continue if they're just going to tear it apart six months later
like it's fair game to question the snp's agenda and what influence they will have over labour, but trying to claim mp's representing people from the uk having an influence on the politics of the uk is illegitimate is actually pretty offensive.
like it's fair game to question the snp's agenda and what influence they will have over labour, but trying to claim mp's representing people from the uk having an influence on the politics of the uk is illegitimate is actually pretty offensive.
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
First sign of proper Tory jitters this evening in Sunday Times. Two donors on the record denouncing the campaign, Cam and calling for Boris
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Tory donor Peter Hall: "If we don’t have a Conservative government after May 7 it will be because of David Cameron."
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
Ministers & MPs have urged Nicky Morgan to run as a modernising candidate who can appeal to non Tories. See SundayTimes
Tim Shipman @ShippersUnbound
MPs received calls last week on behalf of Andrea Leadsom, who is attracting leadership backing from eurosceptic donors.
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound
His timeline is full of stuff like that. Meltdown incoming?
(also lol @ someone who opposed equal marriage being "a moderniser")
CyclopsRock
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Yeah, none of that counts as grounds to ban it. The fact you don't like the Daily Mail isn't good enough.
IdreamofHIME
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Even better is this tweet from him
"Fmr Tory minister: "There wont be a coronation. There will be nearly as many entries as the grand national, with a similar casualty rate
Ouch. Looks like people are plotting and lining up already. He has also stated before than Cameron has been looking for an out for a while. One things for sure, if the Tories fail to form a coalition then it's full on meltdown time.
Wouldn't be surprised. Just think about the narrative the Tories have been weaving for the country and themselves: Labour left the economy in the midst of a horrific recession, with no money left to spend, in a worse situation than Greece. Cameron then scrapes into office and sets about fixing the economy, bringing us out of the recession and improving things, all while passing some much needed reforms. He should be winning just on the basis of saving the economy!
And yet, at the very next election, they lose to the likes of Ed Miliband, a man who lost a fight against a bacon sandwich, and the SNP. There'll be hell to pay in the Tory leadership if that comes to pass.
And yet, at the very next election, they lose to the likes of Ed Miliband, a man who lost a fight against a bacon sandwich, and the SNP. There'll be hell to pay in the Tory leadership if that comes to pass.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Without capital punishment we wouldn't have Easter.
No other party does cut throat leadership contests like the Tories. One of the reasons the Miliband backstabber jibe didn't get much traction as all the political hack were thinking "er, you have seen what goes on when a tory cabinet minister gets a whiff of the top job"
JonathanEx
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Oh please let the last few weeks see the Tories have a leadership crisis. Not saying Dave needs to go, just be surrounded by rumours. That'd be some much needed entertainment.
Audioboxer
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This woman is standing in West Tyrone, along with the Cannabis Party and a Tory from Camden who had only been to Tyrone for the first time last week. I would have to expect the Cannabis' to poll highest out of those three.
I can't believe the media is at it again after they tried pulling all this bullshit scare mongering during the referendum.
It's fucking pathetic.
PJV3
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jamieson87
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They really are scrambling like fuck, throwing anything and seeing what sticks.
Jezbollah
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To be fair Labour went through that around a year ago..
JonathanEx
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Haha yes, and the result being a reluctant "actually this wouldn't look good would it oh we really should have thought of that first".
Otherwise, it's another week and a half of HAVE YOU HEARD OF SCOTLAND, THEY EAT ENGLISH BABIES
QuicheFontaine
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I don't know. I have a mate who keeps posting their headlines on Facebook with bewildered commentary.
I just think "How are you surprised? Didn't they just say exactly what you expected them to say?"
Masquerader
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CyclopsRock
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Look guys, someone like Tom Jones is always going to have affairs; get over it!!
I saw an interesting graph the other day which had showed how in the last 3 or 4 years "the economy" has gone from the most important thing for voters down to about the fourth. It's almost a linear downward trend as employment and GDP goes up - the more secure people are, the less they care about the economy.
I saw an interesting graph the other day which had showed how in the last 3 or 4 years "the economy" has gone from the most important thing for voters down to about the fourth. It's almost a linear downward trend as employment and GDP goes up - the more secure people are, the less they care about the economy.
Miles Quaritch
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Biblically correct.
Jesus, we still have those types people?
Looking at it, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the opposing the LBGT agenda but showing compassion to those who struggle with their 'gender confusion' (what the fuck at this...) and then, just a couple of sentences later, suggesting the recriminalisation of homosexuality.
The fuck is wrong with some people.
Jesus, we still have those types people?
Looking at it, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the opposing the LBGT agenda but showing compassion to those who struggle with their 'gender confusion' (what the fuck at this...) and then, just a couple of sentences later, suggesting the recriminalisation of homosexuality.
The fuck is wrong with some people.
Succinct Verbosity
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Is it on iplayer? I need to see this
Masquerader
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Welcome to Northern Ireland! Be thankful you can choose to live elsewhere.
The First Minister also hates homosexuals as well, describing them as 'abominations'.
Not hyperbole, btw
So I guess that makes me a half-abomination, really. Tsk. No wonder I'm interested in actual UK politics, 'cause over here's full of shite.
I have no idea why they have that music bit on marr, it's grating. That Boris vs Ed bit could have been the highlight of the election campaign thus far but they cut it off for some shitty skiffle combo.
Looking at Germany and their coalition from the outside*, it makes me weep that our politicians seem so self serving and have very little interest in actually working together. Feels like we're pretty close to the US style deadlock of voting against good stuff because the other guy wanted to do it first.
*For all I know Germany is the exact same when it comes to asshole politicians.
*For all I know Germany is the exact same when it comes to asshole politicians.
PJV3
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industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
The best thing to come out of a Labour/SNP Alliance would be the potential drive for proportional representation it would cause. The narrative is already in play in regards to the fact that a party that will only receive 3-5% of the votes may be sitting in the co-pilot seat. That and UKIP, Lib Dems, et al crying foul that they got significantly more votes than the SNP yet have got nothing to show for it.
That and the anti-Scottish sentiment that the right-wing media would invariably whip up would only serve to remind a good part of the 55.3% that they may have made a mistake.
That and the anti-Scottish sentiment that the right-wing media would invariably whip up would only serve to remind a good part of the 55.3% that they may have made a mistake.
Audioboxer
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You get that feeling already up here. Would be interesting to see the results for an independent vote right now. Might not go in favour still, but I'd wittle it down to a win of a few % tops, instead of 10%.
Big scary doll hair cutting Nicola says don't be scared yesterday in Glasgow lol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GuIUV0ia0
From this event from yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFZ2WpemVLM
QuicheFontaine
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I was thinking we might get a second one even sooner than that. Maybe even later this year.
And yep, looking forward to it. We can keep the same thread!
The second most interesting bit on Marr was the review of the papers where that hack Tom Newton Marr from the Sun was saying that it was interesting that Miliband was just playing to the base with some leftist nonsense, and the Mumsnet owner saying actually it's something which is a major point of interest with her members. That would seem to be backed up by research/polling done in January.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...sed-to-rent-controls-for-housing-9955679.html
Rent controls for the private sector are a point of contention with economists, they shouldn't really work in theory (as the lack of supply is the main factor in rent pricing so artificially holding back prices should reduce landlord participation in the market), but in practice (Ireland, Switzerland, Holland and Germany have rental controls of varying types). Ireland is the most comparable to what Labour are proposing, and also Ireland has a similar culture of urban home ownership unlike some of the European countries where home ownership isn't as common.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...sed-to-rent-controls-for-housing-9955679.html
Rent controls for the private sector are a point of contention with economists, they shouldn't really work in theory (as the lack of supply is the main factor in rent pricing so artificially holding back prices should reduce landlord participation in the market), but in practice (Ireland, Switzerland, Holland and Germany have rental controls of varying types). Ireland is the most comparable to what Labour are proposing, and also Ireland has a similar culture of urban home ownership unlike some of the European countries where home ownership isn't as common.
I passed by that yesterday, it was jumping. From speaking to a few people who stopped as she spoke, it was a pretty weird event. No police presence or barriers, a few SNP members with high vi s vests, and Sturgeon made a point to do a crowd walk through the crowd talking to people and answering questions. It's a sort of retail politics you never see with the main party leaders these days.
Audioboxer
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It makes her seem more like an actual human being. It's hard for many to relate to the rich London boys and their teleprompter like speeches.
Are you arguing for no regulation based on the general election/political smear articles or no regulation at all? The DM have printed stories such as the one on the MMR vaccine, quoting unpublished "findings" from Andrew Wakefield long after he lost his license, would you not prevent articles such as this from being published?
Edit: forgot it was blocked on here
Miles Quaritch
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Holy shit, I had no idea it was that bad in NI.
Jesus Christ...this is the group that the Tories might consider a coalition with?
B..But the SNP!
CyclopsRock
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Of course not. If it turns out that a) the contents are false and b) they knew that it was false when they printed it, then by all means punish them post hoc. But any sort of "preventative" regulation would be impractical in any way.
Miles Quaritch
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I really do have to wonder why virtually no-one is questioning them about a potential coalition with this hate group.
At least the SNP are forward thinking and don't harbour outright hate for certain groups and call them abominations. Disgusting that such a group exists in UK politics.
Wondering the same thing too, seems like an open goal, would probably drown out any concerns about the SNP which the Tories are stirring up. Maybe saving it for closer to polling day?
Would you say the risk of post hoc punishments is adequate at the moment to act as a preventative measure? Why do we not see stories such as the MMR one on TV news broadcasts if preventative regulation is impractical?
IdreamofHIME
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Boris is so terrible on the spot. His brain just doesn't have time to boot up. Its not even funny at this point, he is wholly incapable of saying something that wasn't already prepared for him.
..and did he call Milliband a..."creature' on live TV?
..and did he call Milliband a..."creature' on live TV?
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