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Meatflation - The ones we eat, not beat - The Meat-pocalypse

MachRc

Member
It's real y'all

My cheap 9 dollar spare ribs are now like 16 dollars
And the rib eye and t-bone I used to get at the Hispanic Market for like 10 bucks are now almost 20.
Like within 2 weeks.

I've stocked up for Thanksgiving already with a bunch of frozen meats when the news said there wouldnt be enough turkeys.
But I still have not seen a turkey yet at my local markets

www.forbes.com

‘Meatflation’ Worsens As Prices Rise At Fastest Rate In 30 Years In October

Even the price of affordable options–frozen and refrigerated meat products—are reportedly expected to rise in the coming months.
www.forbes.com
www.forbes.com


My tire guy said tires are getting expensive too as if runflats weren't already expensive enough.
Have you seen a turkey in your local market?
 

Con_Z_ǝdʇ

Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
Prices for food will increase even more as they already have. Inevitable.

I don't have a problem to pay a high price for excellent meat as i eat it just once a week. I need to know the farmer and the butcher to be sure the animal lived healthy and in dignity otherwise i won't even touch it. In my eyes the average price for meat is still too low. As is the average quality.

Having said that the price increase most likely comes from inflation and Covid relations and sadly has no effect on quality.
 
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eddie4

Genuinely Generous
I buy from a local butcher/farmer here in TX, but i have to buy in 100lbs increments, which costs about $850. Not a bad deal, you get steaks, ground meat, ribs, etc. I also end up buying vegetables from them as well.
 
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ManaByte

Member
when the news said there wouldnt be enough turkeys.

They say that every year to scare people. Stores have enough.

With COVID going away the media needs a new fear porn, now it's food going scarce; causing people to start hoarding again when it's not needed.

The only thing there might be a shortage on is FRESH turkeys (not frozen). There are mountains of frozen ones though.
 
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eddie4

Genuinely Generous
the news said there wouldnt be enough turkeys.
I won't be buying a whole turkey, it's just me and my wife, and we can't eat a whole turkey, even with leftovers for a week. We just order smoked turkey and brisket by the pound from a local bbq place, enough for 2-3 meals, and we don't have to deal with making the turkey and the side dishes and all that. Don't have to throw away any food, and helping a local business, works for me.
 

MachRc

Member
Maybe we're not too far off from meat prices soaring so high that eating fake meat will be cheaper alternative/necessity


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Maybe we're not too far off from meat prices soaring so high that eating fake meat will be cheaper alternative/necessity


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The more expensive meat is the more eating it will be seen as a sign of status. I expect increased meat prices in the long run will lead to people eating less fake meat and more of the real thing. In a future not far from here and now large numbers of women get hot and bothered standing outside resturaunts to watch men eat premium steaks.
 
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IDK, guess it depends on location, I just got a massive 26lb turkey yesterday at .56 cents a lb, so like 15$ and they (Walmart) had a ton of them
 

Dr. Claus

Banned
Do Gaffers get a discount?

I can put in a good word for the butchers near here if you have a steer. Honestly its surprising how cheap it really is. Seeing the prices people pay for this stuff at the grocery is absurd. The amount I get a year is a good 80% cheaper than the same amount someone in a major city would pay.
 

ManaByte

Member
A pack of bacon is already reaching 10 bucks, even the cheap kind. Time to get used to fish and sea food.

If this is in CA it's due to a retarded law they passed about how pigs can be housed before slaughter. Most pig farms don't have the time or money to make the modifications required to be compliant with the law, thus pork in CA is going to become rare.
 

Fbh

Member
yeah it sucks, and it seems to be happening everywhere.
One of the few pros of living in a third world country was the cheap meat....not anymore (at least for now). The cheap cuts I use to make slow cooked meat now cost the same as a ribeye like 6 months ago.

Maybe we're not too far off from meat prices soaring so high that eating fake meat will be cheaper alternative/necessity


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I'd give this stuff a chance if it was good but every time I've tried it it has been bad.
If it's going to taste like a shitty and artificial tasting meat approximation I'd rather just eat regular veggies.
 

GeekyDad

Member
They say that every year to scare people. Stores have enough.

With COVID going away the media needs a new fear porn, now it's food going scarce; causing people to start hoarding again when it's not needed.

The only thing there might be a shortage on is FRESH turkeys (not frozen). There are mountains of frozen ones though.
Maybe...maybe not. Been back to work for about five months now. Our meat department is definitely short on every type of meat, has been for a while now.

But hate to say it, folks, it ain't just meat, it's most things. It's slim pickins, period. Heck, we're even being rationed on the number of sheets of "out of stock" stickers they'll send us for our price tags when we do our orders. We shortened our toy section by half because the products just aren't making their way from China. Our warehouses don't have enough drivers, the folks working in the warehouses are very new, as are most of the folks working in-store.

I'm not sure calling any of this a "pocalyse" is accurate. We have had times like this all throughout history. I remember it in the 70s when I was a kid. It's frightening, no doubt, and I hope it gets better. It is definitely going to require some common sense and restraint when it comes to spending for folks like myself, but hopefully, it will pass.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
The 93% fat free, grass-fed ground beef I used to get is $8.99 / pound, up by about two dollars. The boneless ribeye steaks from either my butcher or local grocer are over $18 / pound now, that has about doubled.

Good thing I like and often eat Beyond / impossible burgers, and have long opted for vegan or vegetarian options for other "meats" just to for environmental reasons. They're all actually cheaper than the real thing now, when it used to be the polar opposite in terms of differences in percentages.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Havent noticed meat costs more in my area. Chicken and pork are still just as cheap and I was buying steaks on sale for $7/lb. All CDN currency too. Chicken has been selling for $2/lb on sale for drums and thighs forever. Regular price hasnt changed. And at sketchy ethnic stores, chicken can go on deal for $1/lb like always.
 
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IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Meat should be more expensive, and I say that as a meat eater.

A huge problem with meat is the way it's produced like an unlimited resource. Forget for a second the meat you buy in a supermarket to cook at home, or the meat served to you in a restaurant, and then think of all the other ways you can eat meat. Think of all the fast food restaurants, or all the supermarkets selling lunch food (sandwiches at Tesco for example). 90% of it all contains meat. We're also seeing a rise in fast food restaurants. For example, Wendy's plan to open up hundreds of outlets in the UK and Mr Beast Burger is also looking at UK expansion. All of these outlets are going to need a large and constant supply of meat.

Nobody here is as thick. We all know where meat comes from, but I'm not sure we're aware of the damage the meat industry has on the environment. It's estimated that around 14% of greenhouse gas emissions come from the livestock sector, and when you break down the numbers, so certainly see why it's an issue.

L The animals need space, so we need to raise land for them to graze. No all animals get that luxury, but all of them need to eat, so more land is raised just to grow feed for the animals, which equates to around a third of the planets cultivated land.

These animals also need to drink, and because we're raising animals on a industrial scale, 23% of the world's available fresh water is used for farm stock. That might sound reasonable, but it takes over 15,000ltrs of water to produce 1kg of beef. That's pretty insane, especially when some areas of the world are experiencing a water crisis. The South of England, for example, is such a water stressed area that the government and the local water suppler have changed the law to force everyone in the region to have a water meters.

I haven't got into animal poop or cereal feed, but you kinda get the point.

TL;DR: The meat industry is a huge strain on natural resources and the environment, and all of this is because people want 99p burgers and cheap as fuck chicken.
 

Kev Kev

Member
i think this is a pro vegan meme, but taken out of context with the prospect of a meatpocalypse upon us gave me a pretty good chuckle

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V1LÆM

Gold Member
good. people need to stop eating meat. meat free food used to suck but it's actually really good now. when i first started eating meat free stuff it all tasted the same. bland and chewy. now it actually has texture variety and tastes just as good if not better than meat. i've encouraged people to try meat free sausages/burgers and they are surprised how good it is. i don't want to come across as preachy. i'm not a vegan looney. i actually still do eat some meat (mostly chicken) and if people want to eat meat then that's up to them but i wish they wouldn't.

when i started eating meat free food it was because i didn't like the thought of animals being killed and i still hate it but we really do need to cut down on meat and try eating alternatives or lab grown meat in order to protect the enviroment. meat production is a huge contribution to emissions.
 
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good. people need to stop eating meat. meat free food used to suck but it's actually really good now. when i first started eating meat free stuff it all tasted the same. bland and chewy. now it actually has texture variety and tastes just as good if not better than meat. i've encouraged people to try meat free sausages/burgers and they are surprised how good it is. i don't want to come across as preachy. i'm not a vegan looney. i actually still do eat some meat (mostly chicken) and if people want to eat meat then that's up to them but i wish they wouldn't.

when i started eating meat free food it was because i didn't like the thought of animals being killed and i still hate it but we really do need to cut down on meat and try eating alternatives or lab grown meat in order to protect the enviroment. meat production is a huge contribution to emissions.

I will never stop eating meat. I've raised my own chickens, consumed fish that I've personally caught, and hunted wild animals. I'm looking to buy a house in a few years and my main consideration is zoning ordinances, I would like to raise chickens again, and turn my front lawn into a vegetable garden.

Some animals don't exist because where you live would be their habitat. There are also animals killed in combine harvesting of grains, and most farmers will have to kill a variety of animals to keep them from eating the crops that end up on your dinner plate. No matter what way you look at it animals will die. By your mere existence you occupy space and consume resources that others can't have. Your existence is violence both against animals and other people, you can either accept moral responsibility for this and attempt to live your best life, or you can live in denial.
 

Con_Z_ǝdʇ

Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
Some animals don't exist because where you live would be their habitat. There are also animals killed in combine harvesting of grains, and most farmers will have to kill a variety of animals to keep them from eating the crops that end up on your dinner plate. No matter what way you look at it animals will die. By your mere existence you occupy space and consume resources that others can't have. Your existence is violence both against animals and other people, you can either accept moral responsibility for this and attempt to live your best life, or you can live in denial.
You have to admit that the amount of animals that are killed for humanities lust for meat is far greater than in the examples you provided. Doesn't he take moral responsibility because he reduced the amount of meat he is eating?
 

EverydayBeast

ChatGPT 0.1
Price hikes channels peoples anger but it's more complicated than that. Everyone loves a good streak, or ribs, I grew up in the working class, amongst those people you'll stand up and need to get all sectors of the food pyramid and unfortuneally pay more.
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Burnttips

Member
I'm in Iowa now and the price of lunch meat went up $2 per lb. in a week. We're getting hit hard right now but it's like everything going up. Gas, vegetables, home goods, and clothing.
 

KrakenIPA

Member
Some of the new folks at my job have some stories about traffic collisions with deer or elk, putting the truck in reverse and stocking the freezer.
If I lived in a city I would be worried about incremental increase of the price of my meal plans, but where I live now, my neighbors are keen to hand off a stack of freezer packed salmon, elk, and/or deer.
Also (great news!), my hens started laying again! At about 2 eggs a day, I'm a proud chicken daddy!
 
You have to admit that the amount of animals that are killed for humanities lust for meat is far greater than in the examples you provided. Doesn't he take moral responsibility because he reduced the amount of meat he is eating?

People eat too much food in general, I don't think meat is the part we should be focusing on. From my perspective not eating meat is a way of trying to avoid responsibility, and to pretend that your life isn't part of a cycle of violence.

I'm against factory farming of animals, I think everyone should produce some of their own food, and that the best place to start is by preventing homeowners associations and cities from passing laws about whether you can grow food in your lawn/yard. I don't think it's really possible for people to understand what it is they are consuming unless they participate in the process. I think if we were to allow lawns to exist, there should be a requirement that they are grazed by community owned animals. I mean as long as we are regulating other peoples behavior, do you think you have a right to own a lawn that you mow with a lawnmower instead of having it grazed by sheep or cattle? Making lawnmowers illegal would do a lot more for the planet than trying to get people to limit their meat consumption. Think of all the extra animal life that would exist without lawnmowers.
 
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Korranator

Member
"Yes because processed and lab created food is so much better. " Sounds like too many people are buying into this ponzi scheme.

There's a reason GMOs have been banned in other countries. It's toxic and carcinogenic. Not to mention people have allergies and digestive issues trying eat that crap. And you ignorant people are actually asking for them.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Meat should be more expensive, and I say that as a meat eater.
Good point.

For whatever reason meat is pretty cheap unless someone buys seafood or good steaks.

How chicken can be $2/lb, but for the same $2 I could instead buy one shitty crown of broccoli who knows. With that example, I'll take the chicken 90% of the time. And I'm sure a lot of people think the same.

We'd all naturally buy more fruits and vegetables if it was cheaper or meat more expensive. But some reason produce costs a fucking lot compared to meat.
 
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Good point.

For whatever reason meat is pretty cheap unless someone buys seafood or good steaks.

How chicken can be $2/lb, but for the same $2 I could instead buy one shitty crown of broccoli who knows. With that example, I'll take the chicken 90% of the time. And I'm sure a lot of people think the same.

We'd all naturally buy more fruits and vegetables if it was cheaper or meat more expensive. But some reason produce costs a fucking lot compared to meat.

I disapprove of a lot of chicken raising practices that are common, but chickens are the cheapest source of animal protein to produce by far, and this will probably always be true. This has both to do with the fecundity (ability and frequency to produce offspring) and their ability to put on weight quickly with low inputs. There are "feed conversion tables" that show it takes less feed per pound of meat you get out of it to raise a chicken to maturity than other animals. Even heritage breeds, chickens will do most of their growing within a few months, and without feeding them much compared to any other animal that people eat.


Cows by comparison reproduce slowly and take time to put on weight. Pigs reproduce very quickly, but take more time to put on weight. If we didn't have these farming practices I disapprove of, chicken would be more expensive, it would still be a very cheap option, cause chickens are fecund and it takes relatively little feed to make a mature chicken. They can also eat quite a variety of foods without it effecting their health.
 
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