doctorcdcs
Member
Cool. I'm a founder, but i barely played the game, so hopefully i can play without having to play random matches with people
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
MechWarrior Online - News and Information Thread
- Thread starter Orayn
- Start date
Cool. I'm a founder, but i barely played the game, so hopefully i can play without having to play random matches with people
We're a small group, but we have a lot of fun. We're not super serious, but we try to be fairly organized/coordinated.
Typical session:
No Style: Hakuna Matata
Llyranor kills entire enemy team on his own
Teepo kills Zap just before the end of the match
Zaptruder: Fair enough *cries*
Teepo: HAIL TEEPO
Nickiepoo: HAIL TEEPO
Llyranor: HAIL TEEPO
----------
Btw, 1 highlander JJ can bring you up the citadel and upper city base - though just barely.
Had fun with a LBX/4srm4art/2LL highlander yest. Was playing with Nostyle on alpine. Flew up the scout mountain, started shooting the enemy team with my LLs. Piss them off enough for them to send an atlas, phract and highlander after me. I use my single JJ to jump above/below them to shoot them while they try to chase me. I then jump down the mountain, and they drop after me. Of course, they drop on our side of the mountain where the rest of the team stood ready for them
Typical session:
No Style: Hakuna Matata
Llyranor kills entire enemy team on his own
Teepo kills Zap just before the end of the match
Zaptruder: Fair enough *cries*
Teepo: HAIL TEEPO
Nickiepoo: HAIL TEEPO
Llyranor: HAIL TEEPO
----------
Btw, 1 highlander JJ can bring you up the citadel and upper city base - though just barely.
Had fun with a LBX/4srm4art/2LL highlander yest. Was playing with Nostyle on alpine. Flew up the scout mountain, started shooting the enemy team with my LLs. Piss them off enough for them to send an atlas, phract and highlander after me. I use my single JJ to jump above/below them to shoot them while they try to chase me. I then jump down the mountain, and they drop after me. Of course, they drop on our side of the mountain where the rest of the team stood ready for them
Jump Snipe Warrior Online is retarded.
I'm basically going to have to hold off for a week or so until people level out and get bored of their highlanders.
I mean... I could do the jump sniping thing as well - but I'm definetly not a fan of it (irrespective of winning or losing).
I'm basically going to have to hold off for a week or so until people level out and get bored of their highlanders.
I mean... I could do the jump sniping thing as well - but I'm definetly not a fan of it (irrespective of winning or losing).
...
He meant Nickiepoo.
Yeah, this has been a little annoying ever since alphaing 3Ds became popular which I guess is the result of lights being toned down. Hopfully this trend won't last too long.
Yeah, this has been a little annoying ever since alphaing 3Ds became popular which I guess is the result of lights being toned down. Hopfully this trend won't last too long.
The counter should be LRMs and I think the metagame has overreacted to the missile nerf especially since less and less people are running ecms.
Uses XL. Ac20 --> Lbx saves 3 ton, which you use to add the srm4art. 3t lbx ammo instead of 4t ac20 = extra srm ammo
Hmmm. So I played a bit more despite claims to the contrary.
LRMs seem to be rather excellent when paired with long range snipey weapons. They seem to disorientate and suppress snipers quite well. LRM5s allowing for minimum recycle and maximum lock on time are the best bet IMO.
LRMs seem to be rather excellent when paired with long range snipey weapons. They seem to disorientate and suppress snipers quite well. LRM5s allowing for minimum recycle and maximum lock on time are the best bet IMO.
it really is dependent on a map and there is very few spots in the entire game where a pop tarter can safely pop in and out of cover, which might not even be the idea spot to be in depending on where the pieces are moving.
LRM's have always been more useful when your teammates force a brawl rather than waiting and hoping to get a lock on an enemy and immediately firing volleys when he or she has the chance to easily pop back into cover.
and like Zaptruder said, there is nothing that can disorientate a sniper more than incoming missiles which also gives mediums and lights a better chance at flanking and trapping those fucks.
Zod the Bear
Member
Zap+everyone--when do you all normally play? My schedule's been kinda stupid recently, but will try to shift things around a bit to be able to join in.
Hah. They shut down the general forum because of the volume of complaints.
How about... not sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALALALALA" and dealing with the actual problems in a quick and timely manner PGI?
Oh well. I've spent my last dime on the game. Clan founders? Yeah, not while the game is been managed by a bunch of incompetents.
How about... not sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALALALALA" and dealing with the actual problems in a quick and timely manner PGI?
Oh well. I've spent my last dime on the game. Clan founders? Yeah, not while the game is been managed by a bunch of incompetents.
What did happen? Forums are up now, looks like they're going to rearrange them a bit soon.
This happened.
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/114567-general-discussion-replaced-with-specific-sub-forums/
You can read my QQ about 12-13 pages in.
Basically a loss of an obvious straightforward place for players to discuss the general happenings of the game so that the developers can derail some of the criticism about the game.
The problem is, they've never answered a great deal of the questions asked about the game in any satisfactory sort of manner.
Players have repeatedly identified things like machine guns as just not working. And after much badgering across the span of a number of updates and patches, the best they manage is: "we're looking into it." Which is about as useless a none-answer as one can give.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
What's truly infuriating is how simple it is to change some of the balancing variables, push it out to the public and let them test the meta of the changes for a few days before tweaking again. Instead, in pretty much every decision they make, they hold back timely and appropriate changes in favour of tweaking and incorporating fixes and esoteric mechanisms that may or may not work to balance the game.
Machine guns are never going to be viable even with a big buff, though it will help some completely worthless light variants be less worthless.
High damage, low recycle weapons currently rule and will continue to rule the game because these weapons work the best with cover. High DPS weapons that rely on sustained fire for massive damage over time also expose Mechs to too much damage.
Even though they buffed armor 2x over tabletop, they in effect buffed many weapons to 3x over tabletop by having much shorter cooldowns. Taking sustained fire just isnt an option. A PPC in tabletop as a direct crossover would be 1 shot every 10s. Now this high damage, low recycle can get what almost 3 shots in at 10s.
I guess what I mean is that yes machine guns are broken but unless they give them a completely unreasonable buff they are still going to be in the same category as small lasers and small pulse lasers.
High damage, low recycle weapons currently rule and will continue to rule the game because these weapons work the best with cover. High DPS weapons that rely on sustained fire for massive damage over time also expose Mechs to too much damage.
Even though they buffed armor 2x over tabletop, they in effect buffed many weapons to 3x over tabletop by having much shorter cooldowns. Taking sustained fire just isnt an option. A PPC in tabletop as a direct crossover would be 1 shot every 10s. Now this high damage, low recycle can get what almost 3 shots in at 10s.
I guess what I mean is that yes machine guns are broken but unless they give them a completely unreasonable buff they are still going to be in the same category as small lasers and small pulse lasers.
BattleMonkey
Member
Machine guns also have little use in the fluff, mainly there for use against non mech targets. The game not having combined arms aspect to it and being mech only, the machine guns will always be useless.
Well that is because in the books we are normally following the princes and mercenary superstars, MG are supposed to be able to put out damage on mechs as a backup weapon and low cost weapon for the common mechwarrior.
In TT rules, they actually have things called light rifles which are like the main gun on an Abrams tank. Those cannot even damage mechs (-3 damage vs. mechs), but a Mech machine gun shooting .50 cal is a super high tech weapon that can actually slowly strip armor. This aint equivalent to the ole 50 cals hanging off the side of a Huey chopper in the Vietnam war.
They've made an awesome game, but yeah, their community management and balance rollouts need some work.
Having said that, Machineguns are and should be mostly irrelivent. A damage buff wouldn't actually make them more useful on a strategic or tactical level, it would just made some ineffective builds slightly less ineffective. They could do with it, sure, but it doesn't actually 'matter' in the short term, now while we're still missing actual core features of the game.
Having said that, Machineguns are and should be mostly irrelivent. A damage buff wouldn't actually make them more useful on a strategic or tactical level, it would just made some ineffective builds slightly less ineffective. They could do with it, sure, but it doesn't actually 'matter' in the short term, now while we're still missing actual core features of the game.
SUBZERO-08
Member
Yeah, using 6xAC2's with a macro is a ton of fun. It's not the most effective of Mech's, but it feels so good.
Sax Russel
Banned
BattleMonkey
Member
Yup back to the game for me. Fuck you ecm
ECM's honestly haven't been that much of a problem ever since they've introduced HSR and fucked the meta game up leading to the proliferation of PPC builds. still, i applaud the changes especially since BAP's are worth the tonnage now. i do find it annoying when i can't use my streak srm's in certain builds because of an annoying ecm mech.
also, 3L's are easy targets; it's the abundance of D-DC's in my ELO which drives me crazy.
also, 3L's are easy targets; it's the abundance of D-DC's in my ELO which drives me crazy.
a very few number defend ECM's which is evident given how the community has already voted on the issue as well as their reaction to the lead designer saying they're making no changes to ECM's themselves.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53101101&postcount=2021
were a friendly bunch but be warned, at least one of us will personally shoot you in the back at one point.
Yea ECM is not god mode because of the current PPC metagame and the great Host State Rewind. In general lights no longer have the best armor in the game, lag armor.
Dainguro and any gaffer can add me. Alecto22 in game. Also we have a GAF MWO steam group so that is a good way to fill out your friends list with 6 or so names.
Edit. Another good thing on the distant horizon is a bump in mech speed I think. That is why the Flea is delayed. Ever mech got dropped down to about 140kph max because lag armor + other issues basically broke the game in favor of fast mechs. A dev said that the flea is waiting on packet optimization combined with HSR and other optimizations to be released. I take this to mean that they realize the only way the flea and other tiny mechs are going to be viable is with a bump to the max speed. Spider players rejoice!
Ugly as sin. Looks like a boat with two gangly legs.
next patch.
Ahh good. now i can make my pretty baby look pretty.
I am finding this game the least fun game I have played in ages.
I have played 20 odd matches and the team it puts me on always loses (most of the time badly).
Seems that it always team stacks against new players.
Also is it just me or does the game look worse than it use to?
I have not seen the DOF that was around in older versions and some of the maps have really bad load poping and bad lighting.
I have played 20 odd matches and the team it puts me on always loses (most of the time badly).
Seems that it always team stacks against new players.
Also is it just me or does the game look worse than it use to?
I have not seen the DOF that was around in older versions and some of the maps have really bad load poping and bad lighting.
Haha, ok. Expect to see me online at some point, probably fucking around with my Trench Bucket, I swear if someone shoots me though their getting an AC/20 to the dome! lol
Low ELO matchmaking can be hell in my experience. My theory is that there is significant overlap between new players with basically no ELO and players who are not good enough to advance (me included in some weight classes), but there is a significan skill gap still existing between new players and players who have upgraded mechs and more experience.
If you aren't having fun I don't think it is going to get any better until official release, so I would check back late summer and give the game a shot again once community warfare is out.
ThreePiMatt
Member
I haven't been playing much recently since I've been knee deep in Planetside 2, but is it possible that smurfing is a problem at lower ELO?
Probably.
I approve of all these changes.
This works fine for my 3L. I've been wanting to make it a longer range/scouting mech. Putting a PPC on it doesn't work superbly given how its arms handle, and that works way better on a spider. But I think my 1LL/1medlas/2ssrm build will still work as a scout and hit&run harasser. Never really enjoyed brawling in a raven anyhow.
Doesn't bode well for the 3ssrm commando, though. I really can't find any niche for the commando. It's the worst mech. Whatever role it tries to do, another light can do it better.
If they ever raise the unofficial speed cap of the game, which I think is likely, some of these mechs will be better.
they've already hinted that owners of the Raven 2 & 4x should be in for a surprise come may.