The hit detection in Medal of Honor is significantly worse than Battlefield 3, I didn't have any issues. I think it's just the developer, not the engine.
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Medal of Honor: Warfighter |OT| of Knock Knock, it's Tier 1
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Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
BF3 I think the problem isnt as much the hit detection as them fucking with the weapons so much that we all might as well be shooting kittens, flowers and sunshine at each other.
They really need to adhere to the old saying of "If it aint broken, dont fix it" Game used to be pretty damned good with balance from launch (better than it is last time I played anyways), then they started screwing with everything and jesus what happened. Thats the one thing Ive always HATED about DICE just like BFBC2. They keep tweaking shit that does not need to be messing up the balance of everything.
I am told that this is being fixed in a server side update soon, if it hasn't been fixed already (guess not if it just happened to you).
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Ive seen some who said they enjoyed the game for the SP with the current title. Going through the threads related to the game.
though general consensus is to just wait till it drops in price if you are going in just for SP only.
I took a chance at this redbox about 10 minutes ago got lucky.
Gonna dive in head first soon as its done installing/patching.
EDIT
So not even 15 minutes in already got a game breaking bug. Did they not playtest this? It was at the point where you deploy that robot thing, didn't trigger and i had to kill myself to reset because it wouldnt let me restart from checkpoint and when that happened the screen went black and froze.
VibratingDonkey
Member
I take it I haven't received that offer since it's a US only thing as usual?
OriginofHysteria
Banned
So I would probably only get this game for the multiplayer only, so just on that standpoint, is the $60 worth it.
shungokusatsu
Member
Holy shit the online is beyond buggy. 4 spawns in a row I spawn through the floor, falling to my death? Then I spawn outside the barriers of the map, which was neat for about 5 kills and now I'm stuck here unable to go anywhere.
NullPointer
Member
So GAF, which has a worse campaign? Battlefield 3 or the new Medal of Honor?
XANDER CAGE
Member
Medal of Honor, although Battlefield only scrapes by because it has a badass soundtrack and features significantly less horrifying CG character models in cutscenes.
I actually enjoyed BF3's campaign and i am really enjoying MOH.
Guess i am easy to please :-/
NullPointer
Member
OUCH.
Battlefield 3 holds the dubious honor of worst shooter campaign I've ever had the experience of playing. Pretty, yes, but hollow and broken and stupid almost beyond measure. Only in my nightmares would I imagine that MOH would follow suit.
This doesn't bode well. I actually have MOH downloaded on PC, but haven't summoned the wherewithal to play it yet. I will at some point though, even if just to witness it. Loved the last game's campaign quite a bit.
Nizz
Member
It boggles my mind how the controls from the BF3 beta didn't translate to the shipped version of the engine. Yeah, the BF3 beta was buggy and it had some tearing but the one huge positive was that the controls felt the best a Frostbite powered FPS on console had ever controlled.
DICE do really need to dig into the engine and sort out just what causes this input lag in Frostbite 2 games. Something they did with the engine when they gave the graphics another pass to improve them/eliminate tearing something introduced input lag into games using this engine.
It's a shame but I almost never want to touch another FPS using this engine on at least the PS3 again.
At least I'm not the only one who thought the CG characters were horrifying.
For PC Gaf, don't know if any got this as well but the mouse felt really off to me. I checked whether it has use raw mouse input like in BF3 cause that on made a difference. No option whatsoever same as FOV.
I checked the config when I changed the FOV I took a look and again didn't see it listed in the cofig. So added the one from BF3 config and it seems to work.
code: GstInput.MouseRawInput 1
add it to your PROF_SAVE_profile in MOHW settings folder in Docs.
If someone tries it can you feel a difference? I don't want it being some placebo.
For PC Gaf, don't know if any got this as well but the mouse felt really off to me. I checked whether it has use raw mouse input like in BF3 cause that on made a difference. No option whatsoever same as FOV.
I checked the config when I changed the FOV I took a look and again didn't see it listed in the cofig. So added the one from BF3 config and it seems to work.
code: GstInput.MouseRawInput 1
add it to your PROF_SAVE_profile in MOHW settings folder in Docs.
If someone tries it can you feel a difference? I don't want it being some placebo.
Battlefield 3. That campaign was even less coherent with fewer, less effective set pieces.
Agreed about the CG cutscenes, though. It's a shame, cause the ones they do in-engine look fucking great.
I can't go into specifics but in general this kind of thing is tied into how the engine updates the simulation, performs rendering, and syncs with your display. It's possible there were significant architectural changes between BF3 beta and final that perhaps improved overall performance or image quality at the expense of lag. (I don't have any particular insight into what changed, so treat this as speculation.)
That helped a lot, thanks dude. It feels much more even in ADS and iron sight. FOV kicked in, had to reload the map.
The FOV setting in the PROF_SAVE_profile only affect the FOV when running.
For now, the normal FOV is locked at 70.
MOHW battlelog forum admin is aware of this and advised the dev about it. So we will maybe see a FOV slider in a future patch
So - just finished the campaign. Took about 5-6 hours which is fairly standard for today.
I thought the first half was very poor, however there was a point just over half way through where I thought things started to come together much more. Level design improved, the story started to have abit more purpose and the campaign moments themselves became much more enjoyable.
Overall it was 'ok'. It felt disjointed, definitely as if it'd been rushed. Levels feel plopped in without much reason. But I enjoyed it as it came to a close.
I thought the first half was very poor, however there was a point just over half way through where I thought things started to come together much more. Level design improved, the story started to have abit more purpose and the campaign moments themselves became much more enjoyable.
Overall it was 'ok'. It felt disjointed, definitely as if it'd been rushed. Levels feel plopped in without much reason. But I enjoyed it as it came to a close.
Fatal Futanari
Member
Ugh I enjoyed the SP for the first game alot. I bought this one from Newegg for $48 and I am afraid to open it after reading this thread -.-
djcatskratch
Member
I'm enjoying it so far. Played some of the MP last night till my random 2X EXP ran out. Fireteams are what make/break good matches. Either you get rushers who die running into the same campers, or you get a sniper who covers you, advances with you, you spot for him, and you get #1 fireteam on a game. I loved that I had my goofy Purple gun for the little post game fist bump thing, haha. I like the modes that are similiar to BF3 like Combat Mission.
SP is fun so far, I like the multi sight guns a lot. Trying to split time between this, Forza, and Borderlands 2 is difficult, haha. Need more hours in a day.
I do like the Nations thing in Battlelog, it reminds me of the awesome Resistance 3 Global thing that tied into the game.
And if you are not in a Platoon, just make one for yourself, you get a Platoon bonus for every match.
SP is fun so far, I like the multi sight guns a lot. Trying to split time between this, Forza, and Borderlands 2 is difficult, haha. Need more hours in a day.
I do like the Nations thing in Battlelog, it reminds me of the awesome Resistance 3 Global thing that tied into the game.
And if you are not in a Platoon, just make one for yourself, you get a Platoon bonus for every match.
SRTtoZ
Member
Played about 2 hours of the campaign so far and its not bad. I like the story a ton more than BF3 because its not 'omg save the world'. It has its moments where it looks great (maxed out, 1080p) but does not look as good or as polished as BF3. I would not recommend paying full price for this game.
Glad it does work and not just me, cause it does make a difference.
Yeah as soon as I loaded up MP for first time when I set it to 90, my eye's when I sprinted and stopped tripped me out. They'd better fix at FOV soon. I'm playing at 1440p.
I eagerly await your impressions.
I'll admit, that part had a bit of charm to it. Still have a bit more of this to play. I'll probably just go ahead and finish it tomorrow, it's short. Just get it over with.I did mission 3. Which I guess is the beach mission? The little bot thing was so cute! Angry Muslin hit it in the face with a rock
If they eliminated tearing, I would guess they either vsynced the game, triple buffered, or both, all of which could conceivably have input lag problems depending on how it's implemented.
I like what I played. I mean I have a long way to go, but in terms of gameplay, if you liked the first, that feel is here again.
I don't like the setting hopping. I feel like I have no idea what is happening. And the CG is wacky.
But I am a huge fan of insipidly written Minimally Interactive Entertainment.
Battlefield 3: "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE MOTHERFUCKIN VICTORS"
That is deep. You cannot just write that off.
I don't like the setting hopping. I feel like I have no idea what is happening. And the CG is wacky.
But I am a huge fan of insipidly written Minimally Interactive Entertainment.
Battlefield 3: "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE MOTHERFUCKIN VICTORS"
That is deep. You cannot just write that off.
I don't think anyone cares enough to form one for this game. Especially once BO2 comes out in a few weeks. Modern Warfare 3 didn't impress me (although it's still considerably better than Medal of Honor), maybe Black Ops 2 might be good. Didn't play the first Black Ops, but I heard it was good.
Off to a good start. Enter the party menu, invite friends, locks up xbox
edit: Platoon. Profanity check failed. Please use proper platoon name and tag. This for a Platoon named 'Spetsnotz'.
Strike two!
edit: Party member can't use any menus. Had to dashboard.
edit: Party failed to join game
edit: Platoon. Profanity check failed. Please use proper platoon name and tag. This for a Platoon named 'Spetsnotz'.
Strike two!
edit: Party member can't use any menus. Had to dashboard.
edit: Party failed to join game
It's not a bug it's a feature. It's actively trying to tell you not to play the game at all, which is actually the only correct option with Medal of Honor: Warfighter.
soulassssns
Banned
LMAO! So glad I didn't get that game.
Judging from your avatar, you have Halo 4 to look forward to soon, yes? I think it's obvious that will be where your money is going.
MP stream is live: http://www.twitch.tv/evilgamer
Anton Sugar
Member
I still have hope for Combat Mission. At least from the few vids I watched, the maps don't seem to just be "narrow hallways" in that game mode.
Fatal Futanari
Member
I keep on debating on this and AC3....to return/hold off on them until BF or just keep my $48 preroder
Don't listen to him. Medal of Honor's campaign is MUCH better than BF3's. It's not as nicely packaged (the narrative is slightly all over the place), but it's got more variety, there are no quick-time events, and the characters are much more interesting. Yes, Preacher's wife and child are HIDEOUS, and some of the railroading the game puts you on is obnoxious, but there's a good amount of love put into this game. The driving sequences were particularly excellent and exciting. It takes a bit for it to ramp up, but the Single Player surprised me. I felt it was even better than 2010. This was a step up.
I'm still getting some good enjoyment out of the MP. Hotspot is a great game once you figure out the ins and outs of the map, and while it still needs fewer initial tickets, Combat Mission is still good. Haven't played Home Run yet, but I should soon. Only game mode that genuinely sucks is Sector Control. The fact that the teams are initially spawned in only one location makes getting spawn camped all to easy when you're not in control of your foward flag. Rather, the game should spawn randomly around the map so that you can't get dominated and then spawn raped as you try to take your foward position.
robertlebrone
Member
I was playing the PS+ trial just walking along to my next objective and I just died. Nobody shot me, I didn't get blown up by a grenade or fall off a cliff. I just died. My character must have had a heart attack or something. All I could do was laugh. Turned the game off, uninstalled and laughed some more.
samus4ever
Banned
MoH new slogan should be, don't worry if you got a jump on someone, you'll always die with a single magic bullet.
Fallback should mean away from the action, not in front of an enemy.
Fallback should mean away from the action, not in front of an enemy.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
See what I did there?
I can't believe how long it's taking gamers to realize certain kinds of negativity starts with one's own attitude, and can thusly be entirely eliminated with a different attitude.
YOU NEED TO BE A BETTER PLAYER BRO.
Seriously, this is what you just said. Sector Control simply doesn't work and just creates situations where spawn camping is too easy to achieve. Once that is in place, it's extremely to actually get out of that situation.