Media Create Sales 1/21 - 1/27

tanod said:
So first week estimates for DMC4 on PS3?

I'll throw out 235,000.

I don't think it will be that high. Maybe around 200K?
 
ziran said:
The great thing about Nintendo being in such a strong position, and its games having such consistent system selling power, is it's creating more amazing games because the teams have as much time as they need.
Sometimes the teams have more time than they actually need. I believe some delays weren't caused by quality issues rather than the simple fact that there weren't enough hardware available. Therefore they have to delay some games for the sake of not to waste their systemseller capability.
 
rpgfan16k said:
Could we see a no-handheld top 10 this week? DMC4 (possibly both versions, too!), Disgaea 3, Brawl, Wiifit, those ps2 games, AC ps3...8 games that aren't handheld!

This seems very likely. The only handheld games that may enter top 10 are Mario and Sonic DS and WE2008 PSP... but still unlikely.


birdchili said:
ps3 starting to look like it'll be able to support a niche rpg market profitably. i imagine that disgaea 3 is already looking like a good investment there - i don't think it cost *that* much more than the first ps2 disgaea.

I agree. The performance of DMC4 and Disgaea 3 should mean something positive to many Japanese 3rd parties.
 
NintendosBooger said:
Whew, back from my 5 month ban :lol

Great job, SSBB and DMC4! Looking to get a PS3 soon, and I'm glad to see that its third-party situation isn't as gloomy as some predicted.
Wait, you've got a 5 month ban defending 50 against Kanye? I would imagine a Nintendo fan would definitely prefer Kanye. In fact, I think Kanye is the Nintendo of hip-hop...
 
AnimeTheme said:
I agree. The performance of DMC4 and Disgaea 3 should mean something positive to many Japanese 3rd parties.

Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii. Nintendo needs a few big 3rd party released this year to change that. I think Brawl kelps the core gamer Wii base a bit, but they need more PS2 franchises.
 
schuelma said:
Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii. Nintendo needs a few big 3rd party released this year to change that. I think Brawl kelps the core gamer Wii base a bit, but they need more PS2 franchises.
nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.

i'll admit to a bit of disappointment on this front, as the remote is so very perfect for turn-based rpgs. oh well... where the games lead...
 
Neo C. said:
Sometimes the teams have more time than they actually need. I believe some delays weren't caused by quality issues rather than the simple fact that there weren't enough hardware available. Therefore they have to delay some games for the sake of not to waste their systemseller capability.
I agree, I'm sure there is an element of that.

Nintendo being in a position of having to delay releases because there simply isn't enough hw available, when they're manufacturing 1.8 million per month, is an incredibly strong one to be in!
 
birdchili said:
nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.

i'll admit to a bit of disappointment on this front, as the remote is so very perfect for turn-based rpgs. oh well... where the games lead...


Yeah..they really need more. Right now its what..Fragile, ToS:KoR, King Story, FF:CC Wii Ware??

Not very much
 
birdchili said:
nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.

i'll admit to a bit of disappointment on this front, as the remote is so very perfect for turn-based rpgs. oh well... where the games lead...
Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
 
Cosmonaut X said:


I agree with you somewhat, but I don't think Wii has gotten nearly the quality of 3rd party releases PS3 has gotten. PS3 has had some proven franchises release.
 
schuelma said:
I don't think it will be that high. Maybe around 200K?

After I posted that, I realized that it was already at 60% of the initial shipment so I'm inclined to agree. Still really good, considering that the best selling PS3 game did about 350,000 (??) last year.

king zell said:
Every time I see an article like that, I wonder why they don't throw the Wii:360 numbers in there. It's a much better headline.

"Wii outsells 360 by about 24:1 in January."
 
Dascu said:
Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
<checks list of desired games on all platforms>

"valkyrie of the battlefield"?

ok. perhaps not very many. i *do* think it's telling that n1 put their game on the ps3 though.

assuming stuff gets localized, there are a few on the wii as well (opoona, king story (kindof rpgish by the looks), and fragile).

i think ff:xiii is the gorilla-of-unusual-size in the room though. it's exerting a mighty rpg gravitational force toward the ps3.
 
RJT said:
Wait, you've got a 5 month ban defending 50 against Kanye? I would imagine a Nintendo fan would definitely prefer Kanye. In fact, I think Kanye is the Nintendo of hip-hop...

Well, I made a reckless ban bet with PhoenixDark that "Curtis" would outsell "Graduation" in its first week. Loser leaves GAF until February. Been a long 5 months, but I needed the break anyway :lol

Back to the topic: What caused the PSP's boost in hardware this week?
 
schuelma said:
Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii. Nintendo needs a few big 3rd party released this year to change that. I think Brawl kelps the core gamer Wii base a bit, but they need more PS2 franchises.
I'd agree, but it's not like everything's sticking on the PS3, even now. Again, look at Sega Rally... people thoroughly trounced NiGHTS Wii for failing to live up to it's Saturn prequel's sales, but this is an even greater drop off (even combined across 3 platforms). And it's not alone... recently there's also been (established) stuff that failed to impress like Time Crisis 4, Imabikisou, Wangan Midnight, etc.

Just like with Wii or PSP, PS3 is still largely hit and miss imo. There's obviously not the intimidating 1st party presence in place (indeed, SCEI's seems to be generally doing pretty bad... Folksoul, R&C5, EOJ, even GT5P really) but it's not exactly been a safe bet for traditional 3rd party wares either. And even the stuff that does comparatively okay (Musou, Gundam, WE, Disgaea, DMC, etc) is still a pretty huge drop from what one could expect on PS2, nevermind the skyrocketing costs involved.

This week's been mostly encouraging for PS3 I think, but JP 3rd parties still don't have anything close to a clear choice yet (besides DS).
 
birdchili said:
<checks list of desired games on all platforms>

"valkyrie of the battlefield"?

ok. perhaps not very many. i *do* think it's telling that n1 put their game on the ps3 though.

assuming stuff gets localized, there are a few on the wii as well (opoona, king story (kindof rpgish by the looks), and fragile).

i think ff:xiii is the gorilla-of-unusual-size in the room though. its exerting a mighty rpg gravitational force toward the ps3.
Hmm, I'd say Valkyrie of the Battlefield is pretty big. I'm talking about those little PS2 RPGs that almost never get localized. Most of them are going to the DS or even PSP. I don't see them transitioning to consoles.
 
jarrod said:
I'd agree, but it's not like everything's sticking on the PS3, even now. Again, look at Sega Rally... people thoroughly trounced NiGHTS Wii for failing to live up to it's Saturn prequel's sales, but this is an even greater drop off (even combined across 3 platforms). And it's not alone... recently there's also been (established) stuff that failed to impress like Time Crisis 4, Imabikisou, Wangan Midnight, etc.

Just like with Wii or PSP, PS3 is still largely hit and miss imo. There's obviously not the intimidating 1st party presence in place (indeed, SCEI's seems to be generally doing pretty bad... Folksoul, R&C5, EOJ, even GT5P really) but it's not exactly been a safe bet for traditional 3rd party wares either. And even the stuff that does comparatively okay (Musou, Gundam, WE, Disgaea, DMC, etc) is still a pretty huge drop from what one could expect on PS2, nevermind the skyrocketing costs involved.

I'm not saying PS3 sales are better or anything like that- I'm saying that before this generation started, the burden of persuasion so to speak was on Nintendo to get 3rd parties to switch over. IMO, that burden still hasn't shifted, given Wii 3rd parties spotty success and somewhat decent PS3 3rd party sales.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Safe to say this will be the biggest opening week for a game on a Nintendo home console since at least the SNES days, beating out Ocarina of Time's ~386K.

Really?! I mean it's a huge number but I didn't realize that nothing on a Nintendo home console had reached that since then. It's probably due to being jaded by so many huge hitting DS games.
 
Dascu said:
Hmm, I'd say Valkyrie of the Battlefield is pretty big. I'm talking about those little PS2 RPGs that almost never get localized. Most of them are going to the DS or even PSP. I don't see them transitioning to consoles.
there's definitely been a substantial move from consoles to handhelds on the rpg front (sniff), but i'm still somwhat anticipating there being a go-to console for rpgs again this gen. microsoft tried to buy its way in, but with no real hardware base in japan i don't see it happening. it really seemed like a wii/ps3 toss-up, even with ff:xiii going to the ps3, but the ps3 seems to be gaining momentum, and Opoona sold about twelve copies in Japan (it's admittedly strange, but it sold *badly*). i figured wii had a shot at the title, but it's seeming more and more unlikely.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Safe to say this will be the biggest opening week for a game on a Nintendo home console since at least the SNES days, beating out Ocarina of Time's ~386K.
Oh, that's a shame. Ocarina of Time really deserves the top spot. Brawl numbers are awesome, though, don't get me wrong! In fact, I don't think I can begin to express how far above my expectations they are, since I was kind of expecting it to bomb relative to expectations a la Super Mario Galaxy (initially). I guess this just goes to show that Smash really is a very casual game. To be honest, the fact that people (including me) have been discussing games like Smash, Halo and GTAIV as "hardcore" shows how much standards have shifted in the last generation or so.
 
I stopped at another 3 stores today. Brawl was sold out at all three. I still have a few stores to check but it is probably safe to say the game is sold out in my small town. Tokyo and Osaka gaffers, how is the supply in the bigger cities? Did it ever sell out? Are you seeing restocks?
 
Vinnk said:
I stopped at another 3 stores today. Brawl was sold out at all three. I still have a few stores to check but it is probably safe to say the game is sold out in my small town. Tokyo and Osaka gaffers, how is the supply in the bigger cities? Did it ever sell out? Are you seeing restocks?
You were able to pick up the game earlier, though, right?
 
Dascu said:
Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
Next gen console RPGs coming up through early 2008...

PlayStation 3
03.06.08 Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan! (SEGA)
04.24.08 Senjou no Valkyria: The Gallean Chronciles (SEGA)
spring08 Trusty Bell: Chopin no Yume (Namco/tri-Crescendo)

Wii
03.13.08 Baroque for Wii (Sting)
03.19.08 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 4 (Koei)
03.xx.08 Chiisa na Osama to Yakusoku no Kuni Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (Square Enix)
06.xx.08 Fushigi no Dungeon: Furai no Shiren 3: Karakuri Yashiki no Nemuri Hime (SEGA/Chunsoft)
spring08 From TV Animation: One Piece: Unlimited Adventure: Episode 1 (Bandai/Ganbarion)
spring08 From TV Animation: One Piece: Unlimited Adventure: Episode 2 (Bandai/Ganbarion)
spring08 Tales of Symphonia: Ratatoskr no Kishi (Namco/Tales Studio)

Xbox 360
n/a
 
schuelma said:
I'm not saying PS3 sales are better or anything like that- I'm saying that before this generation started, the burden of persuasion so to speak was on Nintendo to get 3rd parties to switch over. IMO, that burden still hasn't shifted, given Wii 3rd parties spotty success and somewhat decent PS3 3rd party sales.
Understood, but I'd say both are really spotty and a pretty dramatic drop off from what console games were doing last gen.
 
Hmm... What did Baroque do on the PS2 and Saturn? I wonder if the Wii version could equal its PS2 counterpart.
 
SSBB: 610k
DMC4 PS3: 190k
DMC 360: 40k
Family Ski: 18k


SSBB should be way higher if it gets a second shipment tomorrow or Sunday.
 
Sharp said:
You were able to pick up the game earlier, though, right?

The two stores I went to on launch day (Jan 31) were both sold out by 5:00pm, the only copies they had left by that time were pre-orders (mine was one of them).

I don't know if the 3 stores I checked today were sold out yesterday but it seems likely they were.
 
Frillen said:
SSBB should be way higher if it gets a second shipment tomorrow or Sunday.

Makes you wonder just how high 1st week sales could have been if the initial shipment was 2M, or just something waaaay past what people will buy so there's no sellouts anywhere.
 
Dascu said:
Hmm... What did Baroque do on the PS2 and Saturn? I wonder if the Wii version could equal its PS2 counterpart.
Can't say how much it did for Saturn, but the PS2 game's 1st day was 5k (sinobi), and it never appeared on the Famitsu Top 30 for the week (number 30 was at 8,541). MC had it at 25 though. I can assume, it didn't sell much after that (it was out of the MC top 50 the next week).
 
Busaiku said:
Can't say how much it did for Saturn, but the PS2 game's 1st day was 5k (sinobi), and it never appeared on the Famitsu Top 30 for the week (number 30 was at 8,541). MC had it at 25 though. I can assume, it didn't sell much after that (it was out of the MC top 50 the next week).
Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.
 
Dascu said:
Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.

Oh I think you underestimate the Wii userbase :lol :lol
 
reilo said:
PS3 DMC4 exceeding expectations, no? Didn't Donny predict 90k for the entire WEEK?

Yep. It's definitely exceeding my expectations. :D

AnimeTheme said:
It's very likely that DMC4 LTD will outsell DMC3. Maybe even the PS3 version alone can achieve that.

Agreed.

Durante said:
It's utterly inane to just extrapolate directly for these types of games (eg. sold 100k on 20m base, will sell 10k on 2m base),

Specific game to console tie ratio is typically a useless comparison.

Loudninja said:
Edit:So Media Create next week should be

1.Super Smash Brothers
2.Wii Fit
3.DMC4

I don't see how PS3 DMC4 will be anything but #2 next week.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Double?

I'm thinking it will top out around 50K, not start there.

If its 50k next week its only about 16k more than last week. I dont know how big system seller this game is, but i belive it can do atleast 16k more in hardware and some more. Thats why i guess around 50-60k :)

EDIT: I forgot about Disgaea 3, Sega Rally and Juiced 2 as well. Altho hardly system sellers (or maybe a tiny bit on Disgaea 3), 4 games released in 1 day might boost the hardware sales more than if it was just DMC4 that was released this week.

EDIT 2: Dont forget that DMC4 also is avalible in a bundle :) I think this will also work better on hardware sales than if it wasnt bundled.
 
Dascu said:
Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.

However, the Wii Baroque remake almost certainly has NA as its main target, where people tend to prefer to buy the next-gen version of games (and Baroque Wii does have better resolution and widescreen). Add to that fact that it is an Atlus game, and as long as the game doesn't turn out totally mediocre, an RPG-starved Wii population will pick up the game. Maybe the target demographic isn't that large, but Atlus will certainly make a profit on it.

I just wonder how Baroque will do compared to Opoona in the US.
 
GreenNight said:
Right, for Japan only. Worldwide? I estimate 6 million.

Considering that the state of the Wii in the USA and Europe, you are underestimating that number by an insanely large amount.
 
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