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Capcom is about 1/10th of their way to 2 million after the first day...I think they'll make it.
tanod said:So first week estimates for DMC4 on PS3?
I'll throw out 235,000.
Japan - Wii outsells PS3 3:1 in January
Totals for January
Wii - 479,931
PS3 - 165,719
Sometimes the teams have more time than they actually need. I believe some delays weren't caused by quality issues rather than the simple fact that there weren't enough hardware available. Therefore they have to delay some games for the sake of not to waste their systemseller capability.ziran said:The great thing about Nintendo being in such a strong position, and its games having such consistent system selling power, is it's creating more amazing games because the teams have as much time as they need.
rpgfan16k said:Could we see a no-handheld top 10 this week? DMC4 (possibly both versions, too!), Disgaea 3, Brawl, Wiifit, those ps2 games, AC ps3...8 games that aren't handheld!
birdchili said:ps3 starting to look like it'll be able to support a niche rpg market profitably. i imagine that disgaea 3 is already looking like a good investment there - i don't think it cost *that* much more than the first ps2 disgaea.
Wait, you've got a 5 month ban defending 50 against Kanye? I would imagine a Nintendo fan would definitely prefer Kanye. In fact, I think Kanye is the Nintendo of hip-hop...NintendosBooger said:Whew, back from my 5 month ban :lol
Great job, SSBB and DMC4! Looking to get a PS3 soon, and I'm glad to see that its third-party situation isn't as gloomy as some predicted.
AnimeTheme said:I agree. The performance of DMC4 and Disgaea 3 should mean something positive to many Japanese 3rd parties.
i think it's fair to say that everyone who buys brawl is a gamer.Neomoto said:I think it's fair to say that Nintendo obviously targeted Brawl to non-gamers.
nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.schuelma said:Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii. Nintendo needs a few big 3rd party released this year to change that. I think Brawl kelps the core gamer Wii base a bit, but they need more PS2 franchises.
I agree, I'm sure there is an element of that.Neo C. said:Sometimes the teams have more time than they actually need. I believe some delays weren't caused by quality issues rather than the simple fact that there weren't enough hardware available. Therefore they have to delay some games for the sake of not to waste their systemseller capability.
birdchili said:nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.
i'll admit to a bit of disappointment on this front, as the remote is so very perfect for turn-based rpgs. oh well... where the games lead...
Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?birdchili said:nintendo dropped the ball on the rpg front methinks. we're massively into this gen, and 360 aside, there hasn't been a real rpg system at all. now that the smaller games are showing up on the ps3, it seems less likely that ps2 rpg fans will go to wii.
i'll admit to a bit of disappointment on this front, as the remote is so very perfect for turn-based rpgs. oh well... where the games lead...
schuelma said:Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3 and poorly on Wii, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii.
Cosmonaut X said:Fixed.
schuelma said:I don't think it will be that high. Maybe around 200K?
Every time I see an article like that, I wonder why they don't throw the Wii:360 numbers in there. It's a much better headline.king zell said:
Dascu said:Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
<checks list of desired games on all platforms>Dascu said:Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
RJT said:Wait, you've got a 5 month ban defending 50 against Kanye? I would imagine a Nintendo fan would definitely prefer Kanye. In fact, I think Kanye is the Nintendo of hip-hop...
Eh? The PSP is actually down from last week.NintendosBooger said:Back to the topic: What caused the PSP's boost in hardware this week?
I'd agree, but it's not like everything's sticking on the PS3, even now. Again, look at Sega Rally... people thoroughly trounced NiGHTS Wii for failing to live up to it's Saturn prequel's sales, but this is an even greater drop off (even combined across 3 platforms). And it's not alone... recently there's also been (established) stuff that failed to impress like Time Crisis 4, Imabikisou, Wangan Midnight, etc.schuelma said:Agree. If 3rd party core games keep doing decent on PS3, there won't be much incentive to switch towards the Wii. Nintendo needs a few big 3rd party released this year to change that. I think Brawl kelps the core gamer Wii base a bit, but they need more PS2 franchises.
Hmm, I'd say Valkyrie of the Battlefield is pretty big. I'm talking about those little PS2 RPGs that almost never get localized. Most of them are going to the DS or even PSP. I don't see them transitioning to consoles.birdchili said:<checks list of desired games on all platforms>
"valkyrie of the battlefield"?
ok. perhaps not very many. i *do* think it's telling that n1 put their game on the ps3 though.
assuming stuff gets localized, there are a few on the wii as well (opoona, king story (kindof rpgish by the looks), and fragile).
i think ff:xiii is the gorilla-of-unusual-size in the room though. its exerting a mighty rpg gravitational force toward the ps3.
Safe to say this will be the biggest opening week for a game on a Nintendo home console since at least the SNES days, beating out Ocarina of Time's ~386K.AnimeTheme said:Wii SSBB - 500k (80% sell-thru)
jarrod said:I'd agree, but it's not like everything's sticking on the PS3, even now. Again, look at Sega Rally... people thoroughly trounced NiGHTS Wii for failing to live up to it's Saturn prequel's sales, but this is an even greater drop off (even combined across 3 platforms). And it's not alone... recently there's also been (established) stuff that failed to impress like Time Crisis 4, Imabikisou, Wangan Midnight, etc.
Just like with Wii or PSP, PS3 is still largely hit and miss imo. There's obviously not the intimidating 1st party presence in place (indeed, SCEI's seems to be generally doing pretty bad... Folksoul, R&C5, EOJ, even GT5P really) but it's not exactly been a safe bet for traditional 3rd party wares either. And even the stuff that does comparatively okay (Musou, Gundam, WE, Disgaea, DMC, etc) is still a pretty huge drop from what one could expect on PS2, nevermind the skyrocketing costs involved.
JoshuaJSlone said:Safe to say this will be the biggest opening week for a game on a Nintendo home console since at least the SNES days, beating out Ocarina of Time's ~386K.
there's definitely been a substantial move from consoles to handhelds on the rpg front (sniff), but i'm still somwhat anticipating there being a go-to console for rpgs again this gen. microsoft tried to buy its way in, but with no real hardware base in japan i don't see it happening. it really seemed like a wii/ps3 toss-up, even with ff:xiii going to the ps3, but the ps3 seems to be gaining momentum, and Opoona sold about twelve copies in Japan (it's admittedly strange, but it sold *badly*). i figured wii had a shot at the title, but it's seeming more and more unlikely.Dascu said:Hmm, I'd say Valkyrie of the Battlefield is pretty big. I'm talking about those little PS2 RPGs that almost never get localized. Most of them are going to the DS or even PSP. I don't see them transitioning to consoles.
Oh, that's a shame. Ocarina of Time really deserves the top spot. Brawl numbers are awesome, though, don't get me wrong! In fact, I don't think I can begin to express how far above my expectations they are, since I was kind of expecting it to bomb relative to expectations a la Super Mario Galaxy (initially). I guess this just goes to show that Smash really is a very casual game. To be honest, the fact that people (including me) have been discussing games like Smash, Halo and GTAIV as "hardcore" shows how much standards have shifted in the last generation or so.JoshuaJSlone said:Safe to say this will be the biggest opening week for a game on a Nintendo home console since at least the SNES days, beating out Ocarina of Time's ~386K.
You were able to pick up the game earlier, though, right?Vinnk said:I stopped at another 3 stores today. Brawl was sold out at all three. I still have a few stores to check but it is probably safe to say the game is sold out in my small town. Tokyo and Osaka gaffers, how is the supply in the bigger cities? Did it ever sell out? Are you seeing restocks?
Segata Sanshiro said:I'd put even odds on this being Snake's biggest seller too.
Next gen console RPGs coming up through early 2008...Dascu said:Apart from Disgaea 3, what other smaller JRGPs is the PS3 getting?
Understood, but I'd say both are really spotty and a pretty dramatic drop off from what console games were doing last gen.schuelma said:I'm not saying PS3 sales are better or anything like that- I'm saying that before this generation started, the burden of persuasion so to speak was on Nintendo to get 3rd parties to switch over. IMO, that burden still hasn't shifted, given Wii 3rd parties spotty success and somewhat decent PS3 3rd party sales.
Sharp said:You were able to pick up the game earlier, though, right?
Frillen said:SSBB should be way higher if it gets a second shipment tomorrow or Sunday.
Can't say how much it did for Saturn, but the PS2 game's 1st day was 5k (sinobi), and it never appeared on the Famitsu Top 30 for the week (number 30 was at 8,541). MC had it at 25 though. I can assume, it didn't sell much after that (it was out of the MC top 50 the next week).Dascu said:Hmm... What did Baroque do on the PS2 and Saturn? I wonder if the Wii version could equal its PS2 counterpart.
Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.Busaiku said:Can't say how much it did for Saturn, but the PS2 game's 1st day was 5k (sinobi), and it never appeared on the Famitsu Top 30 for the week (number 30 was at 8,541). MC had it at 25 though. I can assume, it didn't sell much after that (it was out of the MC top 50 the next week).
Dascu said:Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.
reilo said:PS3 DMC4 exceeding expectations, no? Didn't Donny predict 90k for the entire WEEK?
AnimeTheme said:It's very likely that DMC4 LTD will outsell DMC3. Maybe even the PS3 version alone can achieve that.
Durante said:It's utterly inane to just extrapolate directly for these types of games (eg. sold 100k on 20m base, will sell 10k on 2m base),
Loudninja said:Edit:So Media Create next week should be
1.Super Smash Brothers
2.Wii Fit
3.DMC4
1,000 is probably expecting too much.Dascu said:Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.
Phoenix Down said:will we see a nice sales bump in the ps3 hardware because of DMC4?
test_account said:I would guess PS3 hardware is around 50-60k next week.
DeaconKnowledge said:Double?
I'm thinking it will top out around 50K, not start there.
Dascu said:Ouch. I guess it won't be hard for the Wii to beat that number.
GreenNight said:Right, for Japan only. Worldwide? I estimate 6 million.
Tickets said:PSP constantly beating Wii brings a smile to my face.