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[FINALFANTASYDOG]

Yes they did. They were selling it themselves with 31% off, now its sold via marketplace sellers. And no, 31% off isn't the common preorder slash they give, its 20% and Wii Music had that but then they lowered it to 31% off.
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This is kinda silly to argue about here... and most likely I missed out on the 2 hour period they had a price cut. but... as I said before They were selling the game for 4,500 yen: Google Cache

Which is 23% off, I never mentioned anything about 31% being common preorder slash .
The Current 31% off price now does not include shipping the marketplace guy is charging, which would bring the price up to around 4,400.

For reasons unknown, Buying directly from amazon.co.jp, They've actually upped the price to 4,683. Which more then anything makes me wonder just what calculations are they doing behind the scenes there

 

[RpgN]

People seem to forget that there were many nongames that did not enjoy a lot of success

for example Electro Plancton or that Trivia game for the Wii that was released this year

Electro Plancton was one of the first games to be released as a non-game. It had no campaign, no image and certainly no hype. Also it didn't receive many positive reviews if remember correctly. Trivia, who?!

In my opinion, the whole non-games thing started with nintendogs, braintraining and the release of the nintendo wii.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

How so.. the people that are involved in the product probably get paid a lot more then average programmers in other companies..

So its a 20m $ game now? Come on, I'm not saying it costs 100$ and 2 monkeys to make, just that its a cheap title on the development side.

This is kinda silly to argue about here... and most likely I missed out on the 2 hour period they had a price cut. but... as I said before They were selling the game for 4,500 yen: Google Cache

Which is 23% off. the 31% off price now does not include shipping the marketplace guy is charging, which would bring the price up to around 4,400. For reasons unknown You can now also buy the game directly from them for 4,683

I wouldn't have mentioned it if I knew it was sold from resellers, although I may have taken it wrong when I saw it, right now the 31% off its sold via resellers that's sure.

 

[Flakster99]

Indeed. The two year dev cycle for OOE definitely made it a better experience...

Mhmm. Definitely one of my favorite (action) games of the year thus far. Let's hope the cycle continues.

 

[schuelma]

Bigger drop than I expected for Wii Music, but I still would urge some caution before calling it a bomb.

I think it will hit 500K eventually, but obviously isn't going to be as big a success as the previous Wii games. Still wouldn't be a failure.

 

[PantherLotus]

Speaking of, any word on when Cheesemeister will be able to do the MC threads again?

are you the new cooltrick?


:|

 

[jj984jj]

Let me guess, Girls Mode is what Intelligent Systems has been working on since AW DoR? I wonder which studio made it.

They're probably working on the sequel to Face Training for DSi. :lol

syn Sophia made Girls Mode though, a company that houses former Aki employees. They also made Sim City DS2.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Dengeki Sales numbers


Software Top20:

Dengeki Software Top20

Software Total:

Software Total (10/20 - 10/26):
NDS: 438,583
PS2: 184,565
PSP: 134,428
WII: 126,851
PS3: 27,601
360: 12,579

Weekly Software Overview:

Week		 NDS	     Wii	PS3	  PS2	     PSP	X360
							
07/21 - 27/07    548.601    193.392    78.778     188.894    170.080    19.081
07/28 - 08/03    684.905    184.940    115.983	  142.526    485.664    37.602
08/04 - 08/10    753.875    148.064    56.654	  121.214    231.491    122.421
08/11 - 08/17    683.148    228.693    55.536	  140.651    224.715    36.505
08/18 - 08/24    471.057    116.471    34.819	  194.485    119.839    17.166
08/25 - 08/31    464.969    119.749    89.201	  137.961    147.798    26.540
09/01 - 09/07    378.177    111.082    49.293	  99.123     89.218     16.507
09/08 - 09/14    1.359.677  130.488    38.811	  105.876    76.479     110.550
09/15 - 09/21    728.370    100.698    75.242	  121.620    111.545    32.785
09/22 - 09/28    638.127    111.983    85.866	  539.344    103.562    23.384
09/29 - 10/05    398.829    84.433     39.985	  266.162    96.254     18.359
10/06 - 10/12    332.218    72.096     27.116	  142.586    164.111    14.269
10/13 - 10/19    374.464    178.352    24.346	  148.501    161.044    12.818
[B]10/20 - 10/26	 438.583    126.851    27.601     184.565    134.428    12.579       UPDATE[/B]

Total		 8.255.000  1.907.292  799.231    2.533.508  2.316.228  500.566

source: http://www.ascii.co.jp/top/release/pdfs/081030.pdf

 

[Mr Killemgood]

That list looks strangely like the ********.com list for Japan....Cept the VGC list reports about 4x less X360 software sold in total.

At any rate, in defense of Wii Music:

If you look at the top 10/30 list, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, and Wii Play have all seen MASSIVE drops this week, despite not having a major drop in hardware sales (according to Famitsu).

Because of this, I would venture to believe that Wii Music has cut into the triad of Fit/Sports/Play.

What does this mean? Wii Music, despite being bought by no one (and lets face it, it has yet to break 50% sellthrough of the initial shipment), may have become the default go-to game that the other Wii titles have been, since all took major hits....Most notably Sports.

So because of this, it just may end up with monster legs.

 

[Captain Smoker]

That list looks strangely like the ********.com list for Japan....Cept the VGC list reports about 4x less X360 software sold in total.

It's a screenshot from a banned - site thread, because I don't have the nerve to type it all up.

The source is at the end of my post, which is ASCII/Dengeki ---> http://www.ascii.co.jp/top/release/pdfs/081030.pdf

 

[toypop]

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/184/184501/

Their website version also have HW numbers.

NDS 22,757
Wii 25,510
PS3 4,074
PS2 7,428
PSP 70.040
360 7,660

Wii gonna hit 7m units next week.

 

[Threi]

360risingtoheaven.gif

 

[donny2112]

are you the new cooltrick?

CoolTrick complained about anything other than plain text in the OP.

The MC threads are Cheesemeister's to do, and we're just holding down the fort until his return.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Software Total Japan [03/31/08 - 10/26/08] - Dengeki

NDS: 15.062.507
WII: 5.928.760
PSP: 5.724.224
PS2: 4.839.361
PS3: 2.287.155
360: 784.829

DS is a beast

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Holy crap, I just noticed that the Wii is beating the PSP in LTD sales.

 

[Sage00]

Holy crap, I just noticed that the Wii is beating the PSP in LTD sales.

?
PSP LTD is 10,658,039.
Wii LTD is 6,880,528.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

?
PSP LTD is 10,658,039.
Wii LTD is 6,880,528.

Oops, I mean software sales in a 6 month period :lol

 

[jett]

Wii Music bomba!




(hopefully)

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

77k for DS; gj on fixing that series up, Atlus.

 

[Hunahan]

360risingtoheaven.gif

 

[farnham]

Electro Plancton was one of the first games to be released as a non-game. It had no campaign, no image and certainly no hype. Also it didn't receive many positive reviews if remember correctly. Trivia, who?!

In my opinion, the whole non-games thing started with nintendogs, braintraining and the release of the nintendo wii.

there were many many weird japanese only non game titles though

like magic training or face training those did not do all that well

And electroplankton debuted at the E3 conference 2005 remember

it was a big game for Nintendo back then

 

[Spiegel]

EDIT: Nah

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Oops, I mean software sales in a 6 month period :lol

Well, software LTD is probably the same. In a case like this where they're so close probably the attempts to scrounge more sources of small data help, but as far as the Famitsu sources I gather come to, Wii software is at 22.2 million versus 21.8 million for PSP.

 

[donny2112]

And electroplankton debuted at the E3 conference 2005 remember

it was a big game for Nintendo back then

I really liked the Japanese showing where they had the DS with holes all in it, and the violin accompanied music rendition with Electroplankton's creator. It was really great.

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Ok. Just wondering. I see both the PSP and WII as under performing in software sales considering the hardware sales, personally.

 

[HK-47]

Bigger drop than I expected for Wii Music, but I still would urge some caution before calling it a bomb.

I think it will hit 500K eventually, but obviously isn't going to be as big a success as the previous Wii games. Still wouldn't be a failure.

Its wouldnt be a financial failure, but it would in comparison to expectations and brand

 

[HK-47]

Holy crap, I just noticed that the Wii is beating the PSP in LTD sales.

Thats not exactly a great bench mark, considering the running meme of poor software sales on PSP

 

[Spiegel]

Ok. Just wondering. I see both the PSP and WII as under performing in software sales considering the hardware sales, personally.

I edited because I wasn't implying anything with my post, both consoles are doing ok (one thanks to Nintendo games doing great and third party games tanking badly and the other with games selling ok) considering the releases that the two have had in the last six months.

I think psp is improving but I'm biased

The most surprising thing for me here is that the Ps2 is holding strong in game sales two years after the "new gen" has been in the market

 

[Chzn8r]

It has topped Aria as my favourite Metroidvania. It deserves to do very well. I'm actually pretty worried about NA sales though...

For me it's still SOTN, followed by DOS. I admittedly haven't finished Aria yet but it seems excellent. I'm thinking of getting one of my many DS-owning friends to check out OOE, because I won't be able to play it of my own accord.

 

[Jocchan]

:lol

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Thats not exactly a great bench mark, considering the running meme of poor software sales on PSP

I think that's the point. That a console that's been out half as long and has usually had ~4 million fewer sold systems exceeds it in software sales is validation of the meme.

Looking at it the "weeks ownership" way I estimate PSP has had 2.4 times as many weeks of ownership, though this doesn't account for the increased likelihood of double or triple purchasers thanks to the model changes.

 

[TunaLover]

It's too early call Wiimusic a BOMBA, but still this is a good start of declining sales YAY , hopefully the trend continue.

 

[Jokeropia]

(one thanks to Nintendo games doing great and third party games tanking badly and the other with games selling ok)

Generalizations are stupid. Quite a number of third party games have tanked badly on PSP as well.

 

[Fafalada]

How so.. the people that are involved in the product probably get paid a lot more then average programmers in other companies..

Well when you only need one programmer it stands to reason you can pay him a bit more then each person on a normally sized team.

 

[donny2112]

Famitsu Oct 13-19

1. WII Wii Music 98865 / NEW
2. NDS Pokemon Platinum 63104 / 1745815
3. PSP Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida or 2 62224 / NEW
4. NDS Culdcept DS 50468 / NEW
5. NDS Rhythm Tengoku Gold 40568 / 930571
6. PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam 00: Gundam Meisters 39890 / NEW
7. PSP Macross Ace Frontier 25769 / 123234
8. PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Special 24309 / 182173
9. WII Wii Fit 16147 / 2653931
10. WII Mario Kart Wii 11220 / 1777954
11. PS2 Super Robot Taisen Z 11089 / 451084
12. WII Daikaijuu Battle: Ultra Coliseum 9896 / NEW
13. NDS Dragon Ball: Origins 9154 / 140198
14. NDS Inazuma Eleven 7746 / 119680
15. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 G 7316 / 2439390
16. NDS Daigasso! Band Brothers DX 6682 / 376077
17. WII Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces 6005 / NEW
18. WII Wii Sports 5542 / 3157335
19. PS2 Jikkyou Power Pro Major League 3 5156 / 31796
20. WII One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 1 4879 / 91926
21. NDS Taiko Drum Master 2: The Seven Island Adventure 4788 / 367484
22. PSP Phantasy Star Portable 4766 / 618837
23. NDS Mario Kart DS 4564 / 3224996
24. NDS World Destruction: Michibi Kareshi Ishi 4547 / 84924
25. PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship 4432 / 170418
26. NDS Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary 4207 / 293945
27. NDS Kanji Quiz DS 2 4017 / 271651
28. WII Wii Play 3719 / 2492340
29. NDS Yattaman DS 2: Bikkuridokkiri Animal Daibouken 3604 / NEW
30. PSP Way of the Samurai Portable 3336 / 36945

*. NDS Away: Shuffle Dungeon 1851 / NEW
*. NDS Nazo Nazo & Quiz Ittou Nyuukon Q Mate! 540 / NEW


Bar Chart Oct 13-19 (thanks to JoshuaJSlone/garaph.info)

Note: Image may be delayed from the time of this post, but will automatically show once the data is ready.


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

Sep 15-21, 2008
Sep 22-28, 2008
Sep 29-Oct 5, 2008
Oct 6-12, 2008

 

[Oldschool]

Software Total Japan [03/31/08 - 10/26/08] - Dengeki

NDS: 15.062.507
WII: 5.928.760
PSP: 5.724.224
PS2: 4.839.361
PS3: 2.287.155
360: 784.829


DS is a beast

That´s not true. PSP doesn't sell software.

 

[donny2112]

That´s not true. PSP doesn't sell software.

Obviously as it's selling about the same as the Wii which doesn't sell software.

Edit:
From my Famitsu database, 3/31 - 10/19, whatever I have in my database (which is Top 30s+ but not everything).

NDS - 9,742,917
WII - 4,949,323
PSP - 4,086,197
PS2 - 2,823,829
PS3 - 1,651,435
360 - 627,145

Essentially, DS is selling freaking truckloads of software under the radar.

Edit2:
PSP 60,467
Wii 24,292
DS Lite 22,965
Xbox 360 7,844
PS2 6,962
PS3 3,931

 

[schuelma]

Edit2:
PSP 60,467
Wii 24,292
DS Lite 22,965
Xbox 360 7,844
PS2 6,962
PS3 3,931

Bring out yer dead

 

[Jonnyram]

:lol

 

[Saint10118]

(PS3)

 

[quest]

Obviously as it's selling about the same as the Wii which doesn't sell software.


Edit2:
PSP 60,467
Wii 24,292
DS Lite 22,965
Xbox 360 7,844
PS2 6,962
PS3 3,931

That has to be a mistake under 4k for the PS3? If that is true this is the week the PS3 died in japan.

 

[FrankT]

There are no words.

 

[donny2112]

Bring out yer dead

On the bright side, this means it is that much easier for the PS3 to increase 500% next week.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

That has to be a mistake under 4k for the PS3? If that is true this is the week the PS3 died in japan.

Next week is LBP and the new bundles so there will be a bump for sure. But man, thinking back on all the fanboy posts after E305 and how everyone assumed the PS3 would just dominate Japan without even trying...

 

[Saint10118]

On the bright side, this means it is that much easier for the PS3 to increase 500% next week.

 

[schuelma]

Weak Wii number as well..actually went down.

Looks like hardware will struggle until Animal Crossing.

 

[puebla]

wow

 

[jett]

Rest in peace PS3.

 

[Saint10118]

Weak Wii number as well..actually went down.

Looks like hardware will struggle until Animal Crossing.

Not to be combative, but selling more than it was last year and only a less than 2% decline from last week doesn't seem that weak to me.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

PSP 60,467
Wii 24,292
DS Lite 22,965
Xbox 360 7,844
PS2 6,962
PS3 3,931

So, how is the PS3 tracking against the Gamecube?

 

[Stumpokapow]

So, how is the PS3 tracking against the Gamecube?

Within 100k of each other, PS3 has a slight lead.