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[donny2112]

Looks like hardware will struggle until Animal Crossing.

I don't see Animal Crossing helping things much, personally. I hate to say it, but "Wait for Monster Hunter 3." Short of another expanded audience game with the impact of Wii Fit, Wii's best hope is the core audience which has mostly shunned the Wii to this point. Monster Hunter 3 is about the only bright hope for getting some of that audience to the Wii, at this point.

360 is 18 units shy of doubling the PS3 this week.

 

[Golden Darkness]

How many weeks of XBox 360 > PS3 does that make it now?

 

[dirtmonkey37]

Wow, I honestly did not think the 360 would keep its hardware sales lead over the PS3 for this long.

I'm happy to have been proven wrong.

 

[donny2112]

How many weeks of XBox 360 > PS3 does that make it now?

Too many/Not enough depending on which team you're playing for.

Within 100k of each other, PS3 has a slight lead.

At least the PS3 is acting like the typical second-place system in Japan. Some people used to claim that the PS3 would be the exception and sell decently, despite it tracking close to the GameCube at the same point. "The GameCube dropped a lot later on, so the PS3 will pull away then." Uh-huh.

 

[schuelma]

Not to be combative, but selling more than it was last year and only a less than 2% decline from last week doesn't seem that weak to me.

Well, I have Wii selling 27K from 10/21-10/28 and the following week it goes up to 38K.

 

[jakncoke]

Obviously as it's selling about the same as the Wii which doesn't sell software.

Edit:
From my Famitsu database, 3/31 - 10/19, whatever I have in my database (which is Top 30s+ but not everything).

NDS - 9,742,917
WII - 4,949,323
PSP - 4,086,197
PS2 - 2,823,829
PS3 - 1,651,435
360 - 627,145

Essentially, DS is selling freaking truckloads of software under the radar.

Edit2:
PSP 60,467
Wii 24,292
DS Lite 22,965
Xbox 360 7,844
PS2 6,962
PS3 3,931

wow, I wonder if 80gb ps3 will put ps3 back on top of 360 on a week to week basis.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Within 100k of each other, PS3 has a slight lead.

Thanks. Who thinks 20K for PS3 next week?

 

[schuelma]

I don't see Animal Crossing helping things much, personally. I hate to say it, but "Wait for Monster Hunter 3." Short of another expanded audience game with the impact of Wii Fit, Wii's best hope is the core audience which has mostly shunned the Wii to this point. Monster Hunter 3 is about the only bright hope for getting some of that audience to the Wii, at this point.

.

I agree it's not going to have the same impact as Wii Fit, but I think Animal Crossing might have enough appeal and be close enough to the holiday season that hardware starts a significant upswing.

 

[mabuza]

little big planet will push hardware sales to around 50k next week.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

little big planet will push hardware sales to around 50k next week.

If you say so.

 

[donny2112]

Who thinks 20K for PS3 next week?

I'm going to say PS3 > Wii next week.

 

[Spiegel]

PS3 3,931

Kaz Yamauchi: "Gran Turismo 5 sooner than expected"

That better be true Kaz :lol

I'm going to say PS3 > Wii next week.

Really?

I'd say 20k

There is no pricedrop and everyone is saying that LBP is going to bomb :/

 

[Scotch]

How many weeks of XBox 360 > PS3 does that make it now?

7

 

[Saint10118]

Well, I have Wii selling 27K from 10/21-10/28 and the following week it goes up to 38K.

My apologies for the mistake with the week over week comparison.

 

[donny2112]

There is no pricedrop and everyone is saying that LBP is going to bomb :/

Bundles and 80GB launch. I think it'll be enough to get close to, if not over, 25K, which would probably beat Wii next week.

However, the big story for next week will be DSi sales. 200-300K initial shipment from early retailer estimations.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

I'm going to say PS3 > Wii next week.

You may be right, but I think it'll be close, personally.

 

[nextgeneration]

Wii sales are down considerably year over year. Using Media Create numbers, I have Wii down 17.92% and PS3 down 8.73%.

 

[justchris]

I don't know, considering the likely dev costs of Wii Music, I wouldn't say it was a failure, even if it ends up being less of a spectacular success than the other Wii ____ titles. A disappointment sure, but hardly a failure.

 

[donny2112]

Using Media Create numbers, I have Wii down 17.92% and PS3 down 8.73%.

Edit: Oh, you mean YTD. :lol

A disappointment sure, but hardly a failure.

It's not a failure. It's not a big success, but it's not a failure, either.

 

[nextgeneration]

What are you smoking?

Umm, these numbers are right. What do you have?

These numbers are week 1 through week 43, 2007 vs 2008.

 

[TunaLover]

GAF lack of confidence on AC will turn it in a big success. Seriously, it has brand mindshare, it has ninty core gamers on board, it has casual appeal, and it has a periferal, what could go wrong'

 

[PSGames]

Can someone leaving in Japan explain this recent 360>PS3 phenomenon? It just doesn't make any sense.. :lol

 

[TunaLover]

Can someone living in Japan explain this recent 360>PS3 phenomenon? It just doesn't make any sense.. :lol

I not live in Japan, but MS got some nice agreements for arpigis.

 

[donny2112]

These numbers are week 1 through week 43, 2007 vs 2008.

Oh, you're using YTD totals. I thought you meant that it was down 8.73% from the same week last year. :lol Sorry.

 

[Psychotext]

I wonder just how much sweating there will be over at Sony HQ waiting for the first week figures for their new bundle sales? :lol

 

[zoku88]

Can someone leaving in Japan explain this recent 360>PS3 phenomenon? It just doesn't make any sense.. :lol

Well, for one, there's a new bundle for PS3 releasing soon (or maybe it was this week.)

 

[Ether_Snake]

little big planet will push hardware sales to around 50k next week.

No way :lol

Maybe 25000 or some such.

 

[donny2112]

Well, for one, there's a new bundle for PS3 releasing soon (or maybe it was this week.)

That explains PS3's drastic fall, but the 360 was beating the PS3 weekly before that announcement.

I wonder just how much sweating there will be over at Sony HQ waiting for the first week figures for their new bundle sales? :lol

They may not like the results, but they've chosen to try to get the division profitable at the expense of marketshare. There will probably be people on this board worrying more about it than anyone at Sony will be.

 

[Meier]

Dengeki Sales numbers

They're giving numbers again, yay!

 

[nextgeneration]

Oh, you're using YTD totals. I thought you meant that it was down 8.73% from the same week last year. :lol Sorry.

Hahah, no worries. :lol

 

[blitz64]

Can someone leaving in Japan explain this recent 360>PS3 phenomenon? It just doesn't make any sense.. :lol

This reminds me that I miss Vinks weekly japanese report.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

So the 360 has really beat the PS3 for 7 weeks?

holy fuck. This is some alternate universe shit going on here.

 

[Psychotext]

There will probably be people on this board worrying more about it than anyone at Sony will be.

Ha... yeah, you're probably right.

 

[PantherLotus]

>>CLICK HERE FOR FULL HARDWARE CHARTS<<

[B][U]Hardware | This Week | Last Week | Last 4 Weeks |   YTD     |    LTD     [/U][/B]
DS       |    22,965 |    29,839 |      127,103 | 2,491,509 | 23,664,563
PSP      |    60,467 |   159,816 |      270,229 | 3,053,429 | 10,718,506
WII      |    24,292 |    26,024 |       98,523 | 2,288,681 |  6,904,820
360      |     7,844 |     7,856 |       31,734 |   220,629 |    729,074
PS2      |     6,962 |     7,261 |       29,823 |   412,234 | 21,339,274
PS3      |     3,931 |     4,725 |       21,622 |   703,872 |  2,345,548

 

[TunaLover]

2.01 percent for Wii, PS3 and Wii switching place confirmed

 

[PantherLotus]

I wonder just how much sweating there will be over at Sony HQ waiting for the first week figures for their new bundle sales? :lol

I'm guessing they already have Plan B in the works.

Spoiler

plan b = PS3 Lite

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Also, don't forget that Sony is pulling a WiiPlay and including a free controller with LBP so that will bump the numbers higher too.

 

[jakncoke]

little big planet will push hardware sales to around 50k next week.

That'd be nice because that would= LBP sold massive amounts but it's not going to happen because we live in a cruel world , not sure what LBP is going to do but hopefully it at least joins the 100k selling club, perhaps even enter the top 10 for PS3 ltd for a little bit. Any word of on how many LBP copies they shipped in the first shipment?

 

[Firestorm]

something something only one week something something trends something

Can someone leaving in Japan explain this recent 360>PS3 phenomenon? It just doesn't make any sense.. :lol

Japanese gamers might have finally come around and understood that the games they want are on the Xbox 360? At least that's what I hope happened! Buying consoles out of brand loyalty does not work.

 

[zoku88]

That explains PS3's drastic fall, but the 360 was beating the PS3 weekly before that announcement.

But that was the week ToV was released, wasn't it?

 

[The Faceless Master]

PS3 3,931

damn, wtf japan?

well, it looks like the 7 week run will be over next week...

 

[kay]

Also, don't forget that Sony is pulling a WiiPlay and including a free controller with LBP so that will bump the numbers higher too.

No they aren't, the bundle is 8000 yen while the game is 6000 (or less).

 

[TunaLover]

dumb question but if a game perform plain bad in Japan like Sky Crawlers, there more incentive to bring it overseas', I mean like a mesure to lowering the hit in production cost'
what say the history about this'.

 

[zoku88]

dumb question but if a game perform plain bad in Japan like Sky Crawlers, there more incentive to bring it overseas', I mean like a mesure to lowering the hit in production cost'
what say the history about this'.

I.. don' think that's true, usually. Localizing is a pain.

 

[Gaborn]

So... I realize this is the lowest PS3 week ever (and that next week should be better with the new model/bundle/etc) so it's not the opportune time to ask... but I've been curious for a while now. Obviously I think most people are predicting that at this point the PS3 will not beat the Wii in Japan, but to me the interesting thing is... any thoughts on when the Wii may be uncatchable? Any speculation on when the Wii might reach a sales point the PS3 LTD will never match? Personally, I'm expecting it to beat the gamecube, it's tracking slightly ahead of it even with it's horrible weeks recently and the upcoming holiday should help the PS3 a bit, it should get a final significant bump with FF13 when that is eventually released which, while it will never threaten the Wii should put it safely above the GC.

I'm thinking... The PS3 will sell roughly 7 million when all is said and done for them.

does this seem at all reasonable? (again, realize this is just a wild prediction reasonably far into the future). The PS3 should get boosts from price drops beyond what most consoles get and FF13 should help to bring more of that audience (that hasn't already gotten it in anticipation). Beyond that there should be one or two more titles we don't know about that will give disproportionately large bumps to their hardware sales.

 

[donny2112]

But that was the week ToV was released, wasn't it?

Early October.

Obviously I think most people are predicting that at this point the PS3 will not beat the Wii in Japan, but to me the interesting thing is... any thoughts on when the Wii may be uncatchable?

Early 2007.

Any speculation on when the Wii might reach a sales point the PS3 LTD will never match?

Now. Wii is at 6.9 million, you know. A 50% improvement on the GameCube would put the PS3 at ~6 million.

 

[Gaborn]

Now. Wii is at 6.9 million, you know. A 50% improvement on the GameCube would put the PS3 at ~6 million.

True, now or close to now at least, it's just sort of an interesting thought... we're past, at, or near the point that the PS3 will never reach.

 

[RBH]

little big planet will push hardware sales to around 50k next week.

I seriously doubt that. :lol

 

[phez]

lucky number 7 indeed.

 

[PantherLotus]

:lol :lol