KuwabaraTheMan
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dfyb said:
Quick! List all the PS3 games that sold better LTD than MH3 has in its first 9 days.
There's no way that would have been a better choice for Capcom.
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Quick! List all the PS3 games that sold better LTD than MH3 has in its first 9 days.
There's no way that would have been a better choice for Capcom.
Flying_Phoenix
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duckroll said:Yakuza 3 and MGS4 both failed to sell as much as the previous installment of their respective series on the PS2. Meanwhile MH3 has surpassed the previous installment of the series on the PS2. Let's talk about that instead.
But I want to hear good things about a title being on the PS3/360 duo so I can play it.
duckroll said:Yakuza 3 and MGS4 both failed to sell as much as the previous installment of their respective series on the PS2. Meanwhile MH3 has surpassed the previous installment of the series on the PS2. Let's talk about that instead.
you guys kidding? third party core games sell much better on PS360. i'm not just talking about japan.KuwabaraTheMan said:
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Jaded Alyx
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In Japan? Yes, of course.dfyb said:
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KuwabaraTheMan
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dfyb said:
Not only is this a thread about Japanese sales, but Monster Hunter is a franchise that does the vast majority of its sales in Japan. Capcom would be much better served sticking with Nintendo in this regard.
KuwabaraTheMan
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duckroll said:
Hey, those 25,000 US sales of Yakuza 2 (or whatever it was) were critical to Yakuza 3 being made.:lol
Flying_Phoenix
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dfyb said:
Stop. I mean really please just stop.
Jaded Alyx
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Yes, we know this. It doesn't make your point valid.dfyb said:
AranhaHunter
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dfyb said:
I agree, I think if MH3 stayed a PS3 exclusive, it would've done similar numbers to what it has done on the Wii, but the dev cost for the PS3 would probably be greater than the dev cost for the Wii.
Either way the game should've been on the PSP from the get go
Galactic Fork
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AranhaHunter said:
I don't think so. It's following the same strategy of earlier Monster Hunters. Console version with a later PSP version. I think the Wii is the logical next step for the console version. Especially since the PSP is going to be a graphically stripped port of the console version like the others. With the PS3, they'd have had to make 2 completely different versions.
duckroll said:Yakuza 3 and MGS4 both failed to sell as much as the previous installment of their respective series on the PS2. Meanwhile MH3 has surpassed the previous installment of the series on the PS2. Let's talk about that instead.
Why talk about that at all? It's trying to guess a pattern based on outliers. What does MH3's success mean? What does it mean to MH as a franchise? What does it mean to publishers in terms of pushing their not-MH franchises on the Wii vs. other platforms? I know I'm stumped. What we know is that huge franchises when marketed well can sell on the Wii. Which is so ho-hum as to nearly be a truism. Even the 'MH sold more than previous console installment' remark is impossible to interpret. Is it only natural (given the series' current popularity) or a nice surprise (given previous performance on consoles)?
lowlylowlycook
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PantherLotus said:
You know the deal. First you make the graphs, then you get the attention you crave.
Galactic Fork said:
Bingo! But dfyb would much rather play it on the PS3 or the 360 and watch Capcom bleed money maintaining two completely different engines.
The PSP version will always be superceeded by the closest compatible system for this game (it was not made for a DS type system) and so its only logical consoles were the PS2 and the Wii.
Maybe by the time MH5 or MH6 comes along and HD development is cheap the other systems can get one giant multiplatform release. But as long as the PSP and the Wii are so close in porting ability it will not be financially sound to have it any other way.
donny2112 said:
So how many of those new releases were mainline games. I mean that makes all the difference in sales right? Also clearly the DS and PsP are the two main systems in Japan. Are you trying to say that Ps2 is incapable of selling software, that the userbase isn't active? If so then why do games released on both the Wii and Ps2 greatly favor the Ps2. I'm trying to understand your post and its implications. I don't maintain a database but from reading these threads whenever a semi big game has released for the console it has sold well. Do you not think MH3 would of sold well on Ps2?
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Freshly Picked Tingles Rosy Rupeeland 45,988
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Freshly Picked Tingles Rosy Rupeeland 45,988
Irodzuki Tincle no Koi no Balloon Trip 33,000
No promotion for Tingle 2?
gtj1092 said:
That point sort of goes both ways.
gtj1092 said:
It usually doesn't hurt.
gtj1092 said:
That's ridiculous. The few bigger PS2 games that actually get made, though usually less than previous installments, are still being bought.
gtj1092 said:
Other than the historically cultivated audiences on each, I'm really not sure why. Maybe a lot of people don't want to "upgrade" consoles at all in Japan, so they're just sticking to what they already have - PS2.
gtj1092 said:
You said the PS2 just needed releases to get its software sales back up. I pointed out that PS2 has had about the same number of releases as the Wii.
gtj1092 said:
Again, usually less than its previous iteration, but I'd still agree and say it sold "well," in the big picture of where the console is at in its lifespan.
gtj1092 said:
As well as on Wii? Not particularly. If third-parties had made a conscious effort to keep the PS2 well alive and Capcom had groomed the console to be the home for the next Monster Hunter? Maybe. However if third-parties had made a conscious effort to support Wii along with Capcom's grooming of the console to be the home for the next Monster Hunter, I think we would be asking when it was going to hit 2 million instead of wondering if it is going to hit 1.
schuelma said:
Sure, but unsurprising. The most noteworthy thing, I think, is how unsurprising it is. There was no 'real' bomba, there was no 10-day million. It's exactly in the bland middle that doesn't tell us much about anything other than well, not to lose hope in the Wii, maybe?
i love how some of you act like capcom or anybody else can't possibly afford to make a PS360 game, despite the fact that capcom has been doing pretty good on PS360 and already has one of the best PS360PC engines in the industry that they've been using to make quite a few HD games with relative success.markatisu said:
Flying_Phoenix
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dfyb said:
Hello my name is dfyb and well I like to rationalize.
Segata Sanshiro
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Whoa whoa whoa. Several hundred thousands is definitely going too far. Personally, I think the retailers are going to get stuck with some toxic stock, but certainly no more than a hundred thousand copies. Which is still not good, but a far cry from several hundred thousand.dolemite said:
Jaded Alyx
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Segata Sanshiro
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A BEST of release would be counted as a separate SKU, and yes, when they finally do that (and they will), if we add it to the original SKU, it will almost definitely go over a million. However, I think before that, retailers are going to end up having to ditch some copies. Capcom definitely overshipped the title, like Nintendo did with Animal Crossing Wii.markatisu said:
Try not to take it too hard, but I just don't think Monster Hunter has nearly as much potential as a console game. You can't play Monster Hunter Wii on the train, you can't play Monster Hunter Wii in the schoolyard, you can't play Monster Hunter Wii while you're sitting on a station platform, and it takes some deliberate planning to actually play locally with your buddies using your own characters.
I think a lot of people really fail to understand why Monster Hunter is as popular as it is on the PSP.
Tenbatsu said:
Well they did increase servers, but it bombed so they are not making jack shit there I guess
I completely agree, its appeal is in its mobility. Which is why I am amazed that people are saying what they are about it. A few months ago it would be lucky to pass 500-600k to most of GAF and now its not living up to its potential because it will be close or just inch past 1m
Thank god it bombed and they increase the servers. Or else I think I will have a hard time getting online. More games should bomb next time to cater to more people:lolmarkatisu said:Well they did increase servers, but it bombed so they are not making jack shit there I guess
Once you pop, you can't stop!kpop100 said:Let's wait and see how many stick around after the free trial period