Obviously, but really it was the price cut in combination with the game. It's not just the games.
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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2013 (Mar 04 - Mar 10)
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Obviously, but really it was the price cut in combination with the game. It's not just the games.
That's only 1 example and it's from the same original developers.
I give it 2 weeks tops to go back to around 10k levels. I see nothing on he horizon to keep that "momentum".
It's not THAT different. Every gamers know that.
Soul Sacrifice did what it did due to Sony's major promotion/marketing/bundles. I doubt any third-party would match that for a new IP.
test_account
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Soul Sacrifice was painted as being the alternative to Monster Hunter since Monster Hunter 4 didnt come to the Vita. I guess that is why many think that Soul Sacrifice is an identical game to Monster Hunter in terms of features. There are some similarities of cousre, but i wouldnt call it a copycat.
frankie_baby
Member
yes and quite possibly last
test_account
XP-39C²
It doesnt matter that much who the developers are as long as the games are fun to play, and you did say that you've never seen it
But i only wanted to show where one serie that are similar to another became a big hit. You can apply many games like this. Super Mario Bros 1 wasnt the first scrolling platform game where you jumped and fought enemies, but i dont concider Super Mario Bros 1 to be a copycat because of that. I dont concider Call of Duty as a copy cat of Medal of Honor either (especially not in the recent times with Modern Warfare and Black Ops), i concider it to be a similar game in the same genre. Copycat sounds like it is a carbon copy, and it sounds like something negative, at least in my opinion.
Really good results for Vita, it's clear that with the right software the platform can make a comeback in Japan. Sony has to work hard with its partners and first parties to provide a decent flow of new releases. Other things like a hardware revision, new colors, etc will help as well.
No it's not. Someone even referenced the earlier time in the thread!
just wondering why you would say that ..
Not really. If I'm correct, Vita outsold 3DS the week before their price cut.
Canis lupus
Member
I'll remember this quote in 2 weeks. The month has some ports coming like Steins;Gate, DOA5+, Atelier Meruru and what could be the biggest of them all: OP Kaizoku Musou 2.
Virtua Fighter and Tekken?
Isn't that a mistake? When 3DS had a price drop Vita wasn't even out
This should be the first time it outsells the 3DS.
InsaneZero
Member
If the 3DS is plummeting, then the Vita is only a little bit closer to the sun. The difference being that Daedalus only bothered to give one of them a pair of wings that weren't made of wax.
Nothing alike at all. Dat ignorance.
Father_Brain
Banned
Isn't that a mistake? When 3DS had a price drop Vita wasn't even out
This should be the first time it outsells the 3DS.
Yeah, it definitely didn't outsell 3DS during the launch weeks, or the Persona/Miku bumps, or last week...
Alright Squeenix, time to announce some of your holiday 3DS releases. Bravely Default 2/Dragon Quest XI probably isn't coming until next year, so what do you have?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
That is where the market is headed in the west. Either Sony stand up and be counted or they let Vita fade away as a system and they exit the portable gaming market and hope that PSM takes off. As for PSM, it's such a mess. I have heard so many times about how many hundreds of projects are in development but clearly something is wrong because they trickle out at 1-2 releases per week. They need to have 5-10 games out every week and get every single major developer on board for non-game apps.
That's how they made PS3 a success, it's an absolute beast, and if people had suggested in Feb 2007 that it would go on to be the generation winner and end up shipping over 100m by the time it finishes up they would have been laughed out of the forum as SDF. For PS3 the losses were huge because the hardware was so expensive. With Vita the money will be remade from the services side. Stuff like PS+, Music Unlimited, Video streaming, Apps and indie games make a lot of money over the long term. Sony would basically be bringing forward spending from future revenues. Also, the idea of a cheaper Vita is literally ripped from their PS3 playbook, remove the unnecessarily expensive components (5" OLED) and release a cheaper more attractive device. The PS3 slim played an absolutely huge part in its turnaround, the same strategy would work wonders for Vita.
If Sony gave revenue guarantees to the publishers they wouldn't care. Seriously, it's all about the bottom line.
I think MH4 on PS4 and MHP4 on PSP/Vita and then MHP4thG on Vita exclusive would be what Sony would go for and Capcom would find acceptable.
I have also said a few times that Sony need to get serious about internal development for portables. Right now it is a complete joke, every portable game they make gets ported to the home console or is a multi-plat and doesn't work for portables. It's time for them to get serious about portable development and that means separating the development process and creating a new portable publisher within SCE with its own budgets and IPs.
michaelius
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AranhaHunter
Banned
Battlefield copied COD
Forza copied GT
Sonic copied Mario
Reach another audience and expand their new IP. Not a bad strategy, really.
Lots of games for the iOS.
That's really cool that you're doing this, the_lascar. Thanks!
Yes they would care. It's all about expanding the reach of your franchise, and Capcom's best way of doing that is by putting MH on the 3DS. The franchise would notably shrink if it went exclusive to the Vita, and that would bode concern for the future. For a franchise as popular as Monster Hunter, you want to keep it mainstream, and the 3DS is the mainstream console.
test_account
XP-39C²
I agree. It will make it easier to find info if searching through older threads
Quadrangulum
Banned
Sony's recent push for the Vita has been extensive. At the few game shops I visited in the last two weeks, it has been the Vita and Soul Sacrifice sitting in the most prominent positions. I think this is a rather tepid result considering the effort but let's see what happens in the long run.
KillerTravis
Banned
Wait is that really a good number for Soul Sacrifice? It's supposed to be the flagship title that's going to carry this console to the holidays and it did worse numbers than Bravely Default.
If you're concerned about franchise growth (and the number for MH on 3DS seem to suggest it's not even growing on the 3DS) then you'd have it on both the 3DS for the mainstream market and the Vita for the core MH fanbase that bought it on PSP. Citing mainstream is a poor rational for why it would be 3DS exclusive. If you're looking to expand you don't cut out platforms. That's business 101.
AranhaHunter
Banned
The original did 350k. I'd say it's going to be a notable step up, probably 550k plus lifetime.
I've explained many a time before why it is 3DS exclusive. Monster Hunter is a social game. If it releases on both 3DS and Vita, it would alienate the fanbase. Three people have a 3DS, one has a Vita. Those three can play MH together, Vita person is left out.
test_account
XP-39C²
There are actually noticeably differences. Soul Sacrifice is much more magic based as far as i know, while Monster Hunter is more about weapon and armor crafting. I also think that Soul Sacrifice is more based around arena battles while Monster Hunter got maps to explore? I'm sure that someone can give a better description of the differences than me
I would say the period after Golden Week.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
That is...refreshingly shocking about the Vita. I'm glad to tell the truth.
Legs will determine how good SS did.
Counting in the double pack it did about the same. Also consider the massive difference in userbase. And no SS wasn't meant to carry Vita from March till holidays. No one in their right mind would have thought of that.
Apples and oranges. What could Bravely Default possibly do on the Vita? 75k? Is that really worth it?
And none of them are phenomenon and pales sells wise in comparison to their originators.
CaptainTiptop
Member
Haha, are you having a laugh?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
So that's why Capcom have an exclusivity agreement with Nintendo, because that's why MH4 is on 3DS rather than MHP4 PSP. Seriously. It's all about money.
Wait what? this post is full of misinformation. Battlefield came out a year before cod back in th early days.
Sonic plays not like mario...
Realistic racing games have been releasing for years...
staticneuron
Member
Lol. No. Sony has always had the largest stable of developers and constantly create new IP every generation. They didn't do anything different. Uncharted, Motorstorm, Lair, Heavenly sword, Resistance, Flow, Folklore and that is excluding the PSeye games. The largest influx of new IP from Sony for the PS3 was at the start of the PS3's life. They just kept the ball rolling with familiar franchises and kept on throwing a few new IP's in the mix to keep it fresh.
Still unsure about what is coming for the Vita as far as japan is concerned but I am sure that Sony will create new Ip as usual.
Cha
Member
Gotta admit, I was kinda disappointed that Soul Sacrifice did 92K units. It's a good number but I was hoping for a bit mor....
*noticed teh United Front Double Pack at 22k*
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^Yep. That about sums up my feelings
*noticed teh United Front Double Pack at 22k*
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Vita!
^Yep. That about sums up my feelings