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Yeah waaay higher. Biggest problem is that Capcom could ship 4 million MH games almost yearly. I don't think even a successful games as service approach will generate that much unless really successful.
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mugurumakensei
Member
Bombed so hard in the UK that USF2 on Switch sold better.
We'll have to see what they have in store marketing-wise for January, which would be the ideal time for an advertising blitz. They should bring back the Tri dude lol
Gotdatmoney
Member
Even though you're just being an annoying troll offering nothing to the actual sales discussion see the below from someone who actually bought the last 4 games.
Gotdatmoney said:
Not every annoyed person care about sales wars and all your stupid bullshit.
I didn't buy Vanilla Generations on launch day to fuck around and not get XX. I was the only one of my friends who bought it because I put faith in XX coming out. Silly me.
lol! Deserving a "shitacular" gaf status for shitacular posting behavior.
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Saint Titanfall
Which is as big of a red flag as you could possibly get. After that everything else seems inevitable.
Ultra Street Fighter II suggests there are some pretty thirsty Switch fans. It wouldn't have saved the game, but it would have at least helped.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Great! Thanks for the info!
Which makes the business of all of these even more mind boggling. Nintendo was a huge champion for popularizing MonHun in the west and wasn't it partly due to their advertising that MH4U was able to succeed in the west?
I'm definitely picking up MHW but I'll probably wait for the PC version to see how post launch support pans out.
And_Gignac
Member
I am excited about MHW and I am probably will end up buying it, but I do feel the hype surrounding it feels super artificial. I dont think MHW will the be the breakout hit Capcom wishes and people expect.
The "hype" I see for MHW takes me back to PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale´s.
The "hype" I see for MHW takes me back to PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale´s.
The Last One
Member
Not enough to save the game from Bomba. Maybe more than the X1 version though.
Yes. The design team is probably similarly sized (MH4 team was already huge for 3DS development) but the move to all new HD assets, global launch and multiplatform support will balloon the budget anyway.
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Saint Titanfall
Honestly an extra 500k shipped (which is what USF2 should be at currently) would be a god send for the game. But in this theoretical example I don't think it would even reach that.
MvCI was doomed to failure since E3. I don't see the DLC doing anything for the title
Also this. The roster in general, really
Monster Hunter being DLC is part of why I didn't buy MvCi.
Skittzo0413
Member
I'm just annoyed that I won't be able to play MHXX on my Switch because reasons.
And even more annoyed at Capcom's PR response about that. That's the only bitterness on my end.
Everything else is observations on how poorly they've handled their releases and expectations this year.
And even more annoyed at Capcom's PR response about that. That's the only bitterness on my end.
Everything else is observations on how poorly they've handled their releases and expectations this year.
KillerMan91
Member
Oh sure it will be decent bit more expensive also and of course total revenue generated by the game will take hit too compared to past 3DS entries. Not just as much as unit difference would indicate. Would be nice if MC or Famitsu would have revenue based charts too (like NPD).
The Last One
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500k shipped extra for the Switch? Well, that would be a failed test for sure.
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Wouldhardly say failed. This game as is would be lucky to sell 1 million.
With these sales rolling in, Switch likely would've outsold the PS4 version too.
Capcom should test the waters with MVC2 Switch for $39.99. Just to be safe.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Pretty much. But I'm double mad that they localized the vanilla version over the expansion. Why the fuck would I ever buy vanilla MH from this point forward?
Right, I'm not going to speak to the quality of MHW since I'm not into the series and I wouldn't have a very valid opinion on it. What I can criticize is Capcom's business strategy surrounding it, which I obviously don't think it a smart move. It is possible for that game to come out great and for it to still fail within Capcom's expectations.
So, the total software that Capcom wanted to push by the end of the FY was 11.5 million, correct? I suspect that MHW and remasters will have to do the heavy lifting, and even then it's pretty much a guarantee that they won't make the target. MvCI will be lucky to get 1 million at this rate, let alone 2.
AndrewDean84xX
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I chuckled at that. I'd bet $100 that a port of MvC2 would sell better on the Switch than MvCI on the PS4.
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Saint Titanfall
Hahaha as it goes on these test just be one all the more stupid. Capcom needs all the help it can get these days. The times of being picky are over.
I Agree with that but it's still a Resident Evil for you? Or just an opportunist clone of the canceled PT for the PSVR?
From this point forward?
I don't blame you for waiting for the G-rank expansion, but it's not exactly a new problem for the series.
The annoying part is that everyone (including myself) were convinced Generations wouldn't get a G-rank expansion.
The Last One
Member
Oh really? Tell me why.
It would have failed, 500k shipped would mean not even half of that selling to costumers =/
Gotdatmoney
Member
Yes. From this point forward. I ask you. Did you think XX would not be localized? If the answer is no. I ask you. What point is there to believe anything Capcom says? Why would I ever buy the Vanilla version knowing the shit they just pulled?
Did you buy Generations? Doesn't it piss you off?
We pretty much always got the expansion versions. When did we not come to think of it?
This annoys me too. But I never believed them because if Generations was suppose to be the ultimate version G rank would have been there from the start. What MH games never got a G rank editions?
Capcom just fucking sucks honestly.
To be fair, most western releases were had the expansions included already. Makes me wonder why they did differently for the Generations/XX situation.
Go back a year ago and almost everyone would've been in agreement that XX was coming to the west.
mugurumakensei
Member
Eh, RE7 is still very much Resident Evil through and through. The Bakers as you go through the game couldn't be more classic RE villains. The final boss battle is definitely an RE boss battle.
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Saint Titanfall
Not sure what your on about. I doubt Capcom in it's the best scenario (e.g it's guidance at this point) expects the xb1 version to ship much more than 500k and that sku already exists.
RoboGeorgeForeman
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Honestly if they added more a couple more characters that aren't just Evil Ken or whatever I'd probably be tempted if not a bit hesitant to grab a UMVC2 (mostly cause of the price).
Ditto.
I'm not bothered about MHW because I can play it on Steam. What was annoying is that this isn't the first time Capcom decides to screw over a western fanbase by skipping a localised release. I ended up playing a fan translation of Ace Attorney Investigations 2 many years after release and it was a really good sequel that Capcom didn't localise... Thanks Capcpom.
Yes.
I'm not sure why them not localizing the G rank expansion is what got you pissed off at buying the vanilla version though. The reason Capcom expansion rereleases suck is that you have to buy the same game again.
Like I'm pissed off that I can't fight Massacre Demon Diablos, but if the game were localized, I'd also be pissed off that I'm effectively paying 40 dollars for the same game with G-rank and Barioth.
The Last One
Member
I'm not sure what your on about? Why would Capcom ship 500k for a Switch version if they haven't for the X1 version?
Gotdatmoney
Member
I only bought the Vanilla version because I knew we were getting an expansion. None of my friends bought the game. I had to play it alone but I swallowed it because when G rank came out I wouldnt have to do shitty low rank stuff.
Because it highlights their issue with ignoring Switch. I have generations on 3DS and I love it. I would've bought MHXX on Swtch in a heart beat. This whole thing with Nintendo fans stems from them going out of their way to not support the platform. I own all systems, I'm fine with MHW being on PS4 and PC because I have those two options to buy it, but not bring MHXX over on Switch is a huge reason Nintendo fans are upset with them.
It's good that Japanese audiences are getting both, but did MHXX have soft sales on Switch because it was a bad port of a 3DS game that came out five months before, or are they really waiting for MHW? Time will tell.
Yo bro. Still on that spree huh.^_^
BrokenJohnCena
Member
This thread should be merged with Cerium's thread and call it Capcom shaming festival
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Saint Titanfall
The whole conversation was about a theoretical switch sky adding the sales of usf2 as a maximum. I don't understand what your input into it was about.
The Last One
Member
No, you're the one who brought this usf2 numbers to the conversation. I was saying that the PS4/XB1/PC numbers are so low that a New SKU wouldn't change this scenario.
Why did you buy the vanilla game if you just wanted to play the expansion?
When the US is probably the country where the PS4 version can debut over 10k it's not exactly a high bar. Also Switch owners are starved for games so tons and tons of games are selling incredibly well on it.
Saint Gregory
Member
Well they did call the game Double Cross so it's not like they were trying to hide the fact that they're shitty.
I imported XX and honestly it's much better than X/Gen even with the language barrier. Having to do LR/HR from scratch was embittering but the worst part is knowing that they could have just held off and localized this last year as opposed to localizing X in the first place. I definitely feel burned.
This was a fair argument to make at launch but I feel like now we're in that "What are people doing with all these Wiis?" denial stage. Switch is anything but content starved.
titiklabingapat
Member
Are we gonna talk about cappcom and MH at every Mc thread until infinity, aren't we. I mean I get it, it's the biggest Japanese franchise but yeah..
Gotdatmoney
Member
Because you have to do the vanilla content anyway so its not like you can get around it either way. You can just buy Vanilla and trade it in when the expansion is announced. You don't lose anything money wise that way since the 3DS games hold their value.
Further more why are you framing actually supporting the release as a bad thing? The main thing your saying is "now you know not to buy the Vanilla game in good faith".
Yeah I know now clearly, fuck me though obviosuly.
Until they stop making them or MH stops being a flagship franchise in Japan, probably.
I have no ill will towards the people making the game, and by all accounts it looks to be a big step up from previous entries. My brother is a big MH fan and hes quite looking forward to it. But Capcom arent just the people making the game. Theyre a lot bigger than that.