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Men's Fashion |OT| Style is eternal; But my wallet isn't

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Antagon

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I don't recommend the midnights. I've got the Blue Wefts that seem similar in concepts and I'm not a big fan of the way they fade. And they fade rather fast. If you want dark and skinny raws Momo x Blue Owl would be a much better choice.
 
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luckyboyceo

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Speaking of which, the new Momotaro x Blue Owl collab is fucking sick. I saw the sample pair when I stopped by the office the other day and I was blown away. Even has a kangaroo leather patch.

Limited to about two runs of 150 though so better get them fast.
 
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overcast

Member
Shit. Just got my chinos in from Asos and threw them on. Question is, how tight is too tight. I'll throw up pictures soon, but I didn't think they would be this tight.
 
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Blackhead

Redarse
New Tastes, Nimble Fashion Rivals Squeeze Top U.S. Teen Chains | BoF

Reuters said:
Abercrombie & Fitch Co, Aeropostale Inc and American Eagle Outfitters Inc have fallen out of fashion with fickle U.S. teen shoppers and aren’t likely to win back their business anytime soon.

The retailers, known as the “3As,” have long been popular for their cool basics like jeans, hoodies and t-shirts. But young shoppers are now less interested in their logo-centric clothes and more eager to shop for electronics or go to low-cost, fast-fashion chains like Zara, Forever 21 and H&M that offer greater variety more quickly.

This week, American Eagle gave a weak forecast for the fall, citing an “unprecedented” level of discounting. Abercrombe’s comparable sales fell 10 percent last quarter and the company said business would get worse this quarter, which includes back-to-school.

Earlier this month, Aeropostale said comparable sales fell 15 percent last quarter, and on Thursday forecast another loss this quarter, saying low traffic and pressure to offer deals were an ongoing problem. Shares fell almost 10 percent to $9.90 in after hours trading, their lowest levels in 2 years.

“The teen retailers seem to be not in style or in vogue at this point in time for their target consumers,” said Bryan Keane, portfolio manager of the Alpine Global Consumer Growth Fund. “That usually does not turn around quickly.”

One of the big problems the 3As face is a narrower clientele than that of H&M and Gap Inc, which draw shoppers of all ages. American Eagle gets about 80 percent of sales from its standard merchandise, and Hanson conceded that it has been tough to compete as his company tries to offer more fashion, more quickly.

“This team (young shoppers) wants to be fashionable but they don’t want to spend a lot of money, and fast fashion works very well for that,” said Eric Beder, a Brean Capital analyst, who has a “sell” recommendation on Aeropostale. For example, H&M sells V-neck men’s t-shirts for as low as $5.95, while Aeropostale t-shirts on clearance on Wednesday were priced at $6.99.

The result has been constant pressure to discount. American Eagle’s gross margin fell 3.6 percentage points last quarter to 33.8 percent of sales, well below the typical level of 40 percent.

“We believe youth spending has likely diverted to other categories,” Abercrombie CEO Mike Jeffries told analysts on a conference call.

FAST FASHION

The competition has only grown more intense as U.S. government statistics show young shoppers have gradually directed more of their spending toward electronics and less on clothes. GameStop Corp, the world’s largest retailer of video game products, posted results on Thursday that beat Wall Street estimates, thanks to higher mobile and digital game sales.

At the same time, teens are facing lower employment levels this year, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas, and their parents are grappling with higher payroll taxes, gasoline prices and a slow job recovery.

On top of all that, the three chains are facing an ever more crowded field as international “fast-fashion” rivals are aggressively expanding in the United States.

H&M, a Swedish retailer, said its U.S. sales rose 10 percent in the first half of 2013, and it just launched a U.S. e-commerce site. It has 269 U.S. stores, after opening 40 last year. Uniqlo, owned by Japan’s Fast Retailing, is opening six more U.S. stores this fall with a goal of having 200 by 2020. U.S. sales at Zara, owned by Spain’s Inditex S.A., more than tripled between 2007 and 2012, according to Euromonitor International.

U.S. rivals are also stealing market share from the 3A’s. Forever 21 Inc’s sales rose 82 percent in the period 2007-2012. These new chains are bringing new products, such as Uniqlo long johns that warm up on touch, making it risky to offer the same-old, same-old.

“There isn’t a lot of innovative clothing out there for anyone, and there are plenty of other places to buy clothes if you want,” said Wendy Liebmann, CEO of WSL Strategic Retail.

Aeropostale is moving away from its logo business and adding more expensive, fashionable items. But KeyBanc analyst Ed Yruma said in a note last week the move is a “tacit acknowledgement that the targeted teen customer base may have moved elsewhere.” Aeropostale CEO Thomas Johnson said his company’s results are “particularly disappointing” in light of those efforts.

Last year, many apparel chains got a boost from the bright-color jeans craze. But this year, analysts say there is no such must-have to bring teens into the stores.

“Sometimes, you have something unique that everyone has to have,” said Jessica Bemer, an analyst with Snow Capital Management. “But the look is going to be very similar this year to last year.”
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overcast

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What do you guys think?
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I'm thinking about returning them and getting my money back, grabbing another pair later. These are too tight in the calf to lower thigh area. How much of a bitch is it to return items I bought online, more specifically ASOS?
 
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SkepticalPanda

Member
overcast said:
Shit. Just got my chinos in from Asos and threw them on. Question is, how tight is too tight. I'll throw up pictures soon, but I didn't think they would be this tight.
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I won't wear chinos if they're as tight as any skinny jeans I own. I think chinos (Dependent on the material, obviously) look weird when they stretch to fit your leg.

Edit: Damn, those are some cool looking chinos dude. They do look quite tight but I'd wear them like that.
Disclaimer: I am a teen.
Throw on some Vans with them, ha.

If you are not completely satisfied with your purchase, simply return the item or items to us in their original condition* within 14 days of receipt. We will issue a refund on receipt, or exchange the item for a different size / colour if preferred. However delivery charges are only refundable if you have cancelled your entire order within the 7 day Cooling-Off Period or where the goods are faulty and a refund is made.
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http://www.asos.com/infopages/pgeretref.aspx/
 
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overcast

Member
SkepticalPanda said:
I won't wear chinos if they're as tight as any skinny jeans I own. I think chinos (Dependent on the material, obviously) look weird when they stretch to fit your leg.

Edit: Damn, those are some cool looking chinos dude. They do look quite tight but I'd wear them like that.
Disclaimer: I am a teen.
Throw on some Vans with them, ha.
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See I'd prefer a little more bag, as they are chinos. I'm 20, so you're not far behind haha. Any other impressions. They aren't necessarily uncomfortable, I'm actually impressed at how much room there is as far as not being "nut squeezing".
 
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SkepticalPanda

Member
overcast said:
See I'd prefer a little more bag, as they are chinos. I'm 20, so you're not far behind haha. Any other impressions. They aren't necessarily uncomfortable, I'm actually impressed at how much room there is as far as not being "nut squeezing".
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Yeah, I also expect a little more sag in my chinos. They look cool to me, I really dig that colour. I also thought that for "tighter" chinos they did look looser in the crotch. I dig em.
 
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Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
Can you link to the chinos on their site? I want to try a pair now. Last time I got "skinny" chinos from Asos in the smallest size available, they were loose and baggy on me ;__;
 
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Technosteve

Banned
I used to be a fan of h&m but every time i go to the men section shit is just thrown all over the place and shit is all compressed together. The shopping experience sucks.
 
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SkepticalPanda

Member
From an individual who has to leave the country in order to find an H&M: Be grateful that you have them. Appreciate their quality and pricing. Because anywhere without them, sucks.
 
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MegalonJJ

Banned
Speaking of corduroy, which was mentioned on the last page, does anyone else think it might be a good idea to have a thread (yah yah) focused solely on tailoring/suits? I imagine it would be easier to discuss things like fit, cut, cloth/material, advice on accessories (i.e. braces, belts etc). Basically a good source for those wanting to get into tailoring/suits? (And perhaps using the various incarnations of Bond as a starting guide?)

Also regarding a corduroy suit, I quite like the look of this. (Though the beauty of this is it can worn in variety of ways i.e. just the blazer with jeans or just the trousers etc).

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freenudemacusers

Member
A general suiting thread isn't a bad idea, but it would probably die out like previous suit threads, or just get derailed (like previous suit threads).

I like the suit but I would skip the vest. A little stuffy for brown cord.
 
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MegalonJJ

Banned
freenudemacusers said:
A general suiting thread isn't a bad idea, but it would probably die out like previous suit threads, or just get derailed (like previous suit threads).

I like the suit but I would skip the vest. A little stuffy for brown cord.
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Ah, that's a shame. (I was unaware of previous suit threads. Ah well, suppose just post any questions etc in here).

Aye, it can only be bought as a 3 piece, which I don't mind because it doesn't have to (always) be worn, but imo it's nice to have...if every now and then you're feeling like Corleone ;)
 
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overcast

Member
SkepticalPanda said:
The thing about ASOS, I can't tell whether an item is really nice or if the models just manage to pull everything that they wear off. It confuses me. I scroll through ASOS struggling to find something that I wouldn't wear.
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Yeah. That's my problem with Internet shopping in general. I feel like that first one would be baggy on me.

What do you guys think of varsity jackets?
 
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Bam Bam Baklava

Member
Asos is crazy man all their shirts were made for like petite guys that are 5'9''. Their XL is like a J Crew medium. I can't buy from there anymore.
 
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luckyboyceo

Member
Style Fox said:
Asos is crazy man all their shirts were made for like petite guys that are 5'9''. Their XL is like a J Crew medium. I can't buy from there anymore.
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That's good to know, I was thinking about ordering some stuff from there in size L. Looks like I'll need to size up if I do.
 
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Lunchbox

Banned
macuser where are you, give me your pick like you did earlier. which shirt with sky blue jeans and tan sperrys? i only wear my white ralphs in the day so going color for the night, cant double up since its like 75 today

tonight im about take the ginger chick to dinner and dump her afterwards. i think red says power and yellow says im sorry. shes been nice for the last 3 months so i dont wanna do it in a mean way. but shes just not that pretty sadly. plus has freckles which always looked eeugh next to my tan

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freenudemacusers

Member
red is aggressive, sexual, and energetic. yellow is passive and docile (good if you are with a woman, since they get jealous easily amirite bros?). Since one is never not trying to get pussy, the choice is obvious.
 
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Lunchbox

Banned
Style Fox said:
You wear that shit she'll dump you at first sight.
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my fav ralph white is my go to, thats what i wore when we hooked up. but it'll be weird to dump wearing the same. plus i got the new 2132 wayfarers, ill hang them from the button area like this to dress up the ghetto gators-

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fyi, lacoste quality is trash compared to my ralph custom fits. crocs are cheap for a reason. USA > france
 
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Alucrid

Banned
Lunchbox said:
my fav ralph white is my go to, thats what i wore when we hooked up. but it'll be weird to dump wearing the same. plus i got the new 2132 wayfarers, ill hang them from the button area like this to dress up the ghetto gators-



fyi, lacoste quality is trash compared to my ralph custom fits. crocs are cheap for a reason. USA > france
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check yo tag bruh
 
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