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[PhaseJump]

Thanks, OP. The word retarded is floating around in my mind again.

You have no idea what Valve is worth.

 

[Bernkastel]

Why won't MS just outbid for Valve if that happened?

 

[skybaby]

Valve is a private company, Gabe owns more than 50% of it. Harder to buy if he won't sell.

 

[emivita]

Remember when we all used to argue about games?

 

[Nautilus]

Lol

 

[Thirty7ven]

It would be dumb.

 

[Nikana]

So many hot takes that don't understand optics. Its gonna be a long 2022.

 

[Max Payne’s Baretta]

Man’s said valve (a private organization btw) is only worth 12Bs….

 

[lastmessiah]

My god.

 

[kuncol02]

Valve is 12B only? Why has nobody bought them yet?

Valve is private company (that don't want to be bought) and judging by Activision, Bethesda and Bungie acquisition it should go for about 10x their yearly revenue and that would put them in around 70B.

 

[MadPanda]

Its always bullshit 99% of the time, thats why they always do these cryptic clue bullshit. From what he said you could take it as 'Take Two' or EA, or maybe even another studio, and with the curent climate of publishers being bought up, there is obviously a chance one of those will happen, its been speculated for ages now.
The 'insider' then comes out looking informed when one of these buys eventually happens.

yet noone leaked Bethesda, ATVI, zynga, Bungie. this just shows how clueless they are and how naive their audience is. I think all these supposed leakers should be banned. they are just using this for attention.

 

[NewYork214]

I really hope no one touchs valve. Barely use my PC so I have no skin it. But feel like that would shake up the PC scene way too much. Could be way off tho. Idk

 

[EverydayBeast]

It’s possible

 

[oldergamer]

...And that's Valve. Valve is valued at around $12B which should make it easily affordable to Sony. Buying Valve would instantly give Sony the lion's share of the PC market and let them compete on two platforms the way MS currently does. It would boost their VR capabilities as well and they would have a portable system in the form of Steamdeck. Sony have been pretty cozy with Valve lately, porting many of it's exclusives to PC and putting them on Steam rather than creating their own launcher/service with PlayStation branding. Rumors also suggest that Valve is porting Half-Life Alyx to the PSVR2 as a launch title. It would be good for Sony but also for gamers who could hope to get PlayStation exclusives day one on PC and potential sequels like Half-Life 3 and Portal 3 that Valve haven't been interested in making despite heavy demand.

Some might suggest Epic as an alternative but Epic is more than double the price ($28B), has less market-share with its PC store and there could potentially be opposition to deal from a legal standpoint seeing as Unreal Engine is widely used by devs across all platforms. And while Fortnite would be a huge get, I feel like Valve IPs will have better value in the long run, as Fornite's popularity is sure to fade when the next big thing comes around as today's youth are very fickle-minded.

I certainly would welcome it. I think all these acquisitions by both MS and Sony are a good thing because I don't believe they are doing this so much in a bid to compete with each other but rather to fend off Apple, Google, Meta and Amazon who are eager took take over gaming and have the cash to buy whoever they want in order to do so. I also feel like many studios and publishers would much rather be bought by MS or Sony than by those other huge corporations that don't have the pedigree in gaming that MS and Sony have.

Sony isn't buying valve. If they were going to sell they would get more money from MS then they would Sony. Shoot they would get a higher price from most larger companies.

 

[lefty1117]

I think only M$ can afford Valve and the main reason they haven't yet is due to anti trust concerns

 

[Bernkastel]

Valve can only be bought if Gabe changed his mind. If he did, we know its not who OP is suggesting will be first called into these negotiations.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Remember when we all used to argue about games?

We really need a business board.

 

[The Alien]

Why won't MS just outbid for Valve if that happened?

Sony would be at the bottom of those negotiations.

If Valve was actually for sale, the big boys would come out to play (Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google, TenCent, Facebook).

Ya know, the actual competition Phil Spencer talked about and then the internet mocked him for. Yeah, those guys.

 

[reinking]

I certainly would welcome it. I think all these acquisitions by both MS and Sony are a good thing because I don't believe they are doing this so much in a bid to compete with each other but rather to fend off Apple, Google, Meta and Amazon

Why do I as a gamer care if Apple, Google or Amazon get into gaming? I would rather see that than consolidation. These companies are no more or less evil than Sony and Microsoft. I mean no more to them than a number and a dollar sign.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

You have to convince Gaben to relinquish his deific status. Good luck with that.

 

[PhaseJump]

Plot twist.

OP's retarded shockwave generation backfires, Valve raises the capital to buy Sony and force them to port all games to Steam.

 

[Punished Miku]

Theyll probably announce this when psvr2 drops along with half life Alex 2 shadowdrop.

 

[Bernkastel]

Video game forums have some of the smartest people in world. Not only do they find time to play video games and surf the web all day, they are also executives of billion dollar video game companies and expert anti trust lawyers.

 

[BeforeU]

Nothing can be as crazy as Activision tbh.

But I do see MS or Sony going after CDPR, they are wounded after Cyberpunk debacle and stock had plummeted hard.

 

[AJUMP23]

These type of deals take months, but it looks desperate, even though it is probably a response to competitors moves.

 

[reinking]

 

[kingfey]

What the hell are you smoking?

If it wasn't for Microsoft and Sony trying to bring quality games to PC you would be stuck with Valheims and PUBG's and early access everything.

PC existed before Sony games on pc.

There are tons of quality games in the market. Sony and Microsoft aren't the big boys on steam.

Do you guys even understand what a quality game is?

Unless you mean big action blockbuster games. We take that shit, and turn in to clown game, due to mods. Pc and quality don't exist together.

Its matter of time, before people change Kratos to CJ, or Thomas.

 

[Fess]

Horrible. Just horrible.

 

[kingfey]

5 years behind?
Maybe consoles are weaker with raw gpu power but right now pc don't even have direct IO storage like ps5 have. NVME drives are not utilized.
And I bet most developers would prefer to work for locked hardware anyway

Pc can get those, and improve it. That is the point of PC.

Any tech that is on pc, gets improved faster, unlike Consoles, which has limited upgrades.

 

[SpokkX]

Sony would be at the bottom of those negotiations.

If Valve was actually for sale, the big boys would come out to play (Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google, TenCent, Facebook).

Ya know, the actual competition Phil Spencer talked about and then the internet mocked him for. Yeah, those guys.

This

A more realistic move from Sony would be Take2 (and that would require Sony to get quite a big loan)

 

[ape2man]

This is a play to add value to the sony gamepass. Destiny will be available for 120 buks a year ( expansions etc. ) everywhere but on sony gamerpass its free. Its the same play microsoft is doing. COD is X amount on everything but on MS gamePass its free.

You give value to your service and you get money from the game being sold everywhere else. Its the game microsoft and sony are playing, nintendo is just sleeping. They cant see that your slowly vendor locking your entire market to your service no one owes your games no one can resell your games. And you have a predictable income stream.

 

[Clear]

The issue is that of late there has been bipartisan interest in Washington to curb tech consolidation, have a watch of this:



Its a non-gaming source so hopefully gives a different perspective.

 

[Thirty7ven]

MS has more money. They like Bungie.

We can safely assume they ultimately weren't interested in the price or Bungies conditions.

They weren’t interested in the conditions, it’s obvious. Bungie has enough history with MS to know about it too.

 

[Evil Calvin]

I can't think of a single thing EA handles now I give two shits about.

EA Genesis classics would be a great release. Give me Jungle Strike!!!

 

[HTK]

This won't get blocked.

 

[mckmas8808]

Remember when we all used to argue about games?

I SOOOO miss those days.

 

[SJRB]

Make sure Elon adds Ray Tracing. Those flat fucking graphics can use an upgrade.

Agreed, those stairs look hideous.

FROM games will release exclusively in Tesla cars.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Sounds like EA to Sony to me. "It Takes Two" is EA and "two to tango" sounds like Sony needs to react type sentiment.
I don't think we'll all be F'd cause EA does a lot of licensed deals and they'll probably be treated like MLB. Can't just make NFL, PGA, FIFA, NHL, etc exclusive without having to rework licensing deals which I don't see happening.

 

[RoadHazard]

"On the horizon", huh. So I guess either Sony is buying Playground or MS is buying Guerrilla.

 

[GreatnessRD]

They don't even like releasing their PS titles day and date on PC with console. They can't afford value anyway, so no.

Now please delete this.

 

[Kenshin775]

Buy Square Enix. If you have FF14/Spiderman 2/ Destiny 2 Day 1 new releases and content on Spartacus that is pretty sick.. that is strong enough to grow a sub service until all the multiplayer projects start coming out for Sony.

 

[PhaseJump]

The more realistic shockwave will come from Sony Group being acquired by somebody like Amazon or Apple, once they take gaming and movies more seriously.

I figure the source of the hypothetical shockwave will be all of the autistic screeching from warriors on GAF and Era, colliding with each other in the atmosphere.

 

[yurinka]

1. Why did they decide to pull the trigger now?

1 - As of now the gaming revenue that comes from dlc/mtx/season passes/GaaS/MP/F2P is growing a lot and is huge, Sony had to highly improve in these areas, to highly improve and learn in these areas. So bought a top key player on this area, who also will help teach their other teams who will try how to do it.
2 - Sony needed a top FPS, so bought one, plus the team who made it plus the future ones they will make, who also may help their other teams to learn how to properly do this genre
3 - The upcoming new IPs from the team who made Halo and Destiny now are Sony IPs
4 - The first Destiny made a Billion on the first year. Potential to recoup this investment only with the first game of their next new IP, in a few years. Big revenue and profit coming to SIE
5 - IPs/source material for movies and tv shows
6 - Making sure that in this consolidation period someone else doesn't buy them and keep them and their games out of PS
7 - To increase their game output, they have 900 devs so will start releasing stuff soon
8 - Content and value not only for PS, but to Spartacus. Bungie games may be released on Xbox but may skip Gamepass once the acquisition is completed
9 - Helps Sony to reach players many millions of players who are in other platforms like the other consoles, so will turn some of them into Sony fans and will bring some of them to Sony's platforms

2. Did the Zenimax purchase initate this if not the Activision purchase?

No, maybe it's even the opposite and this and other Sony upcoming acquisitions triggered the ABK one. Bungie acquisition started half a year ago, ABK -according to WSJ- started in December when MS made the first approach to show interest on acquiring them (a month after Spencer said they were going to reevaluate their relationship with them).

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

What on earth are you smoking?

In what world is the future of PC Gaming bleak?!

Let me translate the OP for you:

If consolidation continues, big IP will eventually be only accessible on PC in the form of a subscription (long term probably streaming only, too). Companies like MS want full control, which means a) no piracy b) no purchasing anything other than limited digital licenses tied to a subscription model c) no competing platforms for the games they're selling to you.

Of course PC will always be the place to go for indie devs and everything not yet bought out by the big boys. But OP likes his Diablo on PC.

 

[Inanilmaz]

Imagine sony buying a license for pokemon and they release it for psvr2

 

[cireza]

A total game changer.

 

[Three]

I want to agree with you, honestly, but Jim Ryan confirmed rival consoles himself. Bungie is confirming even new IP is confirmed for all consoles. They're saying they have full control and will be totally multi-platform. It doesn't sound like they're just speaking PC and Playstation. It seems like Sony negotiated from a weaker position, leaving Bungie to maintain an insane amount of contractual freedom and rights while STILL being under Sony's corporate banner. When Bungie say they still control their Destiny, that's them saying they, not Sony, own the IP to Destiny still...

Looks to me like Bungie ain't giving up another IP the way they gave up Halo ever again. Sony will benefit like an owner, true, but just not in the ways Sony is use to benefitting as an owner.

Bungie control Destiny in the same way Zenimax/Activision Blizzard controls their IPs. Sony has control just as MS has control, they are the parent company. The subsidiaries still own the IPs. This goes for Bungie, Zenimax and Activision-Blizzard.

 

[AV]

Valve being "valued at 12b" is probably the stupidest thing I've read so far this year.

 

[iorek21]

Bioware going under PS Studios umbrella would be the best move for them, DICE too.

 

[SJRB]