Romulus
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
I bought one yesterday! As someone with very minimal exposure to VR, the thing that really got me was the UI! haha. Using my fingers to resize windows and move them around and the first time the floating keyboard popped out literally blew my mind.
Also I'm not scared to admit that I actually started sweating a little after playing beat saber.
Also I'm not scared to admit that I actually started sweating a little after playing beat saber.
Wonko_C
Member
It's been quite some time since I visit this thread and I see it finally has stopped being the "Official Referral Thread".
I'm playing Panzer Dragoon for the first time in the form of Panzer Dragoon Remake with a VR mod, and it's like the game was always meant for VR. You control the dragon with the left stick but you aim with the gun in your hand. You can even aim to the sides and back without having to push the L/R buttons, as if you were really mounting a dragon.
I'm playing Panzer Dragoon for the first time in the form of Panzer Dragoon Remake with a VR mod, and it's like the game was always meant for VR. You control the dragon with the left stick but you aim with the gun in your hand. You can even aim to the sides and back without having to push the L/R buttons, as if you were really mounting a dragon.
Romulus
Member
Holy hell that sounds awesome. I was sort of following the VR mod and lost track of it. What do I need to give it whirl?
fart town usa
Member
I think I'm gonna ride it out with the default jock strap. Looks goofy as hell but my neck has adjusted to the front weight and it feels fine now.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Anyone who wants to look into fitness apps, my girl won't stop raving about the Les Mills Bodycombat app. It's pretty straightforward from what I saw, no subscriptions just a one-time purchase. I hear Supernatural VR is good too but we're not based in US or Canada - bloody region locks.
Wonko_C
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GitHub - Astienth/Panzer_Dragoon_Remake_VR_bHaptics_Provolver
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I have a bobovr strap but I sometimes use the default one while laying down when my back doesn't want to cooperate. I even did a full playthrough of Resident Evil 4 like that, LOL.
buenoblue
Member
I'm thinking about getting back into vr, I have a rift s and quest 1. 4070ti pc. The black level difference on the rift s LCD compared to quest 1 oled is very apparent to me.
Is the quest 3 any better? Will I miss oled?
Maybe a psvr2 might be better. My quest 1 still looks pretty good but higher refresh rate and resolution would be nice.
Is the quest 3 any better? Will I miss oled?
Maybe a psvr2 might be better. My quest 1 still looks pretty good but higher refresh rate and resolution would be nice.
Minsc
Gold Member
Quest 3 blacks will disappoint. No way around it. But depending on what you are using VR for, a wireless headset with incredible optics opens a lot of doors. The blacks suck. But there's more to VR than blacks, and I'm as pro-OLED as they come. Just keep that in mind.
I think both headsets are a great deal, and they're both kinda complete opposites too, you could buy both and have completely different experiences from each one, good experiences.
Also, there's a pretty good chance headsets that fix the black issue from the Quest 3 and keep the clarity and freedom release in 1-2 years. Quest 4, Valve's Deckard which could be AMAZING, the LG headset using Meta OS that will run the Quest games, and so forth. A good chance this stuff hits pretty soon, at least info and is out 2026.
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Romulus
Member
You might be better off with psvr2, but every youtuber I watch that owns both uses quest 3 for pcvr.
It's also worth considering quest 3 exclusives without a PC. Pretty underrated. If you own ps5 too though that's a big deal.
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reinking
Gold Member
This is no way a definitive answer but I mostly use PSVR 2 for games I really want to immerse myself in. The blacks help and it blocks more light for me. I have not tried it with PC.
I mostly use Quest 3 when I want to multi-task while playing AR. I believe the Quest 3 would win on ease of use with PC and it is immersive enough. I just find that I use it more as an AR space. If I did not have a PS5, I doubt I would have gotten a PSVR2.
buenoblue
Member
Thanks for the advice guys. When I played Vader immortal on my rift s it looks pretty washed out and it's a different experience on quest 1.
Probably pick up a psvr2. I sold my ps5 to my friend a few months ago but will probably pick up a pro when gta6 comes out so makes sense for ps5 vr games down the line.
Probably pick up a psvr2. I sold my ps5 to my friend a few months ago but will probably pick up a pro when gta6 comes out so makes sense for ps5 vr games down the line.
lakitu1982
Member
I'd wait to see what Valve have cooked up before spending.
Haint
Member
PSVR2 looks dramatically, massively, and significantly superior to Q3 from a visual perspective, but the headstrap and physical design is the worst in the entire contemporary industry by far.
Q3 looks like ass visually, the LCDs are garbage pale sludge that's worse than your grandma's $20 burner phone from Wallgreens, but adding one of the elite style straps make it one of the most comfortable and one of the best physical designs.
They're both pretty bad options honestly. I'd probably wait to see if Valve Deckard is OLED, or if any third parties build a Quest OLED, or possibly a Quest Pro 2. You will absolutely loathe any LCD headset if you're asking this question. LCD panels in VR is like putting square wheels on a car.
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buenoblue
Member
Yeah I dont understand the move to lcd screens. I've had oled TVs and phones for a decade now so I see the difference immediately.
Ironman_Bad
Member
Hyperbole the post!! PSVR2 is by far my headset of choice unless I'm playing a game that requires lots of movements cause wires and movement is hot garbage but the quest 3 looks great too
lmimmfn
Member
The black levels on the Quest 3 aren't great, I came from an Oculus CV1 getting the Quest at Christmas.
However the untethered experience of the Quest 3 blows any tethered headset out of the water. Playing HL: Alyx in a 3 meter square area with no wires and walking around is amazing.
The pass through and room scanning on the Q3 is also amazing as well as how it handles getting close to the boundary.
I'm also on a 4070Ti
buenoblue
Member
This is my conundrumThe black levels on the Quest 3 aren't great, I came from an Oculus CV1 getting the Quest at Christmas.
However the untethered experience of the Quest 3 blows any tethered headset out of the water. Playing HL: Alyx in a 3 meter square area with no wires and walking around is amazing.
The pass through and room scanning on the Q3 is also amazing as well as how it handles getting close to the boundary.
I'm also on a 4070Ti
all that sounds great. But I need oled 
OLEDs do not pair well with pancake lenses, as they consume a lot of light.
OLEDs have persistence motion blur / blacks smear.
OLEDs have mura = noisy blacks, sometimes crushed in software to avoid them.
Apart from the obvious parameters as screen resolution, refresh rate and contrast, there is a multitude of non-obvious ones, such as:
- binocular overlap
- horizontal & vertical FOV
- edge-to-edge sharpness
- sweet spot size
- chromatic aberrations
- God rays
- one screen per eye (yay, I can finally set my IPD precisely!) vs. a single screen (yay, better overlap!)
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lmimmfn
Member
Unfortunately no headset is perfect at the moment, my Oculus CV1 has OLED but i found the smeering annoying and the cable would bring me completely out of the VR experience(and having others use it i would have to make sure they didnt strangle themselves lol), so im happy with the Quest 3 being untethered for PCVR compromising on not being OLED for the moment.This is my conundrum
If the quest 3 had OLED(with no smearing) and eye tracking i would consider it a functionally perfect VR headset with further improvements just being on battery life, mobile chipset performance improvements, weight etc.
Minsc
Gold Member
Honsetly, Vader Immortal was perhaps the most disappointing game I've played on the Quest 3, because the blacks made it very unimpressive. But almost every other game doesn't really suffer as badly as that game did. I'd say it's a pretty extreme example.
You could just as easily pick a game that plays to the strength of the clarity of the lens or the motion accuracy of moving objects, etc and have the complete opposite experience. Something like Walkabout Minigolf is infinitely better on the Q3 for me, because of the way the edges of the viewpoint are horribly out of focus on the PSVR2, so trying to line up shots is way worse in that game on the PSVR2. There's easily dozens of other examples too.
Like I said, the headsets really are their own beasts. With their own faults. And you can't really experience the clarity of the pancake lens on the PSVR2 or rift s.
lmimmfn
Member
Yes, i have to agree on the pancake lenses, theyre absolutely fantastic not having that horrible lense warping around the edges.
Minsc
Gold Member
The PSVR2 with a PS5 is a compelling choice, and likely offers more immersion, but it comes with some problems of its own. I don't think either is a bad choice, even for someone who hates the LCD blacks, there's plenty the Quest 3 provides the PSVR2 does not.
It will be nice when the next round of headsets evolve that successfully merge the strengths of both devices into a single headset. I think Deckard (which will be way more $$$) and Quest 4 both have a good chance of doing so.
It will be nice when the next round of headsets evolve that successfully merge the strengths of both devices into a single headset. I think Deckard (which will be way more $$$) and Quest 4 both have a good chance of doing so.
Stitch
Gold Member
yeah this setting is great. meta should make it a default ON setting.
buenoblue
Member
This is why I'm so torn on which to buy. I kick-started the original DK1, had a psvr1, still have the rift s and quest 1.
Quest 3/ Psvr2 seem like a good upgrade over what I have but it's hard making the choice lol. At the minute I prefer to use the quest 1 over rift s as the picture just looks to have more depth and realism.
Quest 3 seems like a really really great bit of kit and the lenses and wireless seem like great plus points. But I love those OLED black levels.
How long does quest 3 battery last with wireless PC streaming in real world gaming? How do the native games look compared to PC vr? I'm also interested in ar with meta quest 3. Oh and can you watch porn with the built in browser? Is there a built in browser? I've never actually use my quest 1 without PC lol.
Minsc
Gold Member
Battery life is not the best, many choose to get a headset strap w/ battery, which kills two birds with one stone, the comfort and doubles your battery - figure around 90-120 minutes > 180-240 minutes. Some systems let you hotswap the batteries so you can get even more. But I think many people don't use VR for THAT much time at once, over 4 hours is a lot. I generally go ~1-2 hours.
Native games look PS3 level I guess, a bit better with Quest Game Optimizer since that clears up the aliasing which goes a long way in VR. I think you could probably compare the higher end of Quest 3 games to what you had on the PSVR1.
The built in UI is one of the highlights, it has a great web browser that natively runs sites like youtube and netflix and others in VR, which PSVR2 and PCVR does not have. You can watch whatever your network filters let you watch, it's just a PC essentially, plus you can run your actual PC through it or stream from a server easily enough.
Best way I think would be to just buy both from Bestbuy or somewhere you can return within 2 weeks or wherever. See what you enjoy more. But strides will be made within the next year or so I feel. And I doubt we see Sony follow up any improvements on the PSVR2 for a long, long time.
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