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[Holykael1]

"the body i've lost, the comrades i've lost, won't stop hurting..

you feel it too, don't you?"



yeah, i've watched it about 25 times so far.

That and "What took you so long", "No greater good, no just cause" always get me.

 

[TheLetdown]

I'd be lucky if I ever play this game again. I think one run will be good enough for me, just want to make sure I understand the story because the little summary in front of ground zeroes did not give me enough context. Just got on chapter 3 myself.

That and the dumb song the robots hum, it really grinds on my nerves. The person who was in charge of sound design needs a new job.

This is my first time through it, as well, and as soon as I read "the dumb song the robots hum" my hair bristled. It will probably be stuck in my head, now, too.

As for the game itself, I'm wavering back and forth of whether I like it or not. The Mother Base stuff seemed really cool at first, but the further I get, the less it seems to matter. When they bring it back for Phantom Pain, I'd like to see more of a risk/reward element, where focusing too much on R&D would cost your Combat unit, which would then have serious in-game implications, for example. As is, I just keep stockpiling staff until I switch all of my E's for D's, D's for C's.

Whoever called this game Snake The Serial Kidnapper hit it on the head.

 

[Rogue Agent]

They should make the Mother Base stuff and the boss fights far less grindy, which goes without saying, really.

Or at the very least, make the grinding fun. But best thing is to remove all this grinding altogether.

 

[malfcn]

Spoiler

Confused why I am to be okay with Naomi. I thought she hated me. And why again did FOXDIE kill Liquid but not Solidus and me. Genes are just different enough?

And this rolling Octopus is pissing me off.

 

[Holykael1]

Spoiler

Confused why I am to be okay with Naomi. I thought she hated me. And why again did FOXDIE kill Liquid but not Solidus and me. Genes are just different enough?

And this rolling Octopus is pissing me off.

The Foxdie thing will be explained in due time.
Naomi doesn't hate you anymore, she came to terms with what happened to Grey Fox by the end of MGS 1. Don't you remember her speech to snake at the end of mgs 1? She says Foxdie can trigger at any time, Snake can die anytime like Liquid or anyone else with that genetic code, it's random but he shouldnt let himself be chained by his genes, live life without worries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WZHpPaWTm0

 

[Ishida]

Spoiler

Confused why I am to be okay with Naomi. I thought she hated me. And why again did FOXDIE kill Liquid but not Solidus and me. Genes are just different enough?

And this rolling Octopus is pissing me off.

Honest question (Not trying to be an ass, I'm serious) but were you paying attention at the previous games?

Naomi no longer "hates" Snake. She has "forgiven him" somewhat, because she finally knows what Snake and Gray Fox fought for, and that they are still friends. She also knows that Frank holds no grudge against Snake for what happened before.

Naomi MAY still resent Snake, a little, but she no longer hates him.

And FOXDIE... Well, it is implied in the original MGS that Solid and Liquid are not truly identical. They still have small differences on their DNA, as does Solidus. Naomi designed FOXDIE so that it may kill Solid Snake at any random time. This revenge would be more terrible, dooming him to know he could die of a heart attack at any time, without warning. That was Naomi's revenge against Snake.

Metal Gear Solid 4 spoilers (DO NOT READ THEM until you complete Act 3!):

Spoiler

It is revealed that Liquid and Solid are not 100% clones of Big Boss. Their DNA was altered, and they are indeed different from their father, and from each other. And no, there's no cure for FOXDIE like Liquid thought.

And Laughing Octopus is not hard if you know what you are doing. When she starts to roll, just get over one of the many beds around. She won't be able to hit you there.

 

[malfcn]

I assumed they were different, and that FOXDIE could trigger any time. But I read something that must have been wrong. And I did forget about her forgiveness, I only remember the resentment. I do now remember Snake not telling her the truth about Gray.

And I often have a habit of playing when I'm exhausted, and miss things. :-(

I'm going for non - lethal on Octopus. I knife her until she is low. Then she does stuff like jump through a window off radar. I don't take damage until then - then my attacks start clipping through her.

 

[Rizzi]

Hah. I just got the "Problem Solved, Series Over." trophy.

 

[MacNille]

Hah. I just got the "Problem Solved, Series Over." trophy.

Got it too.

 

[JayEH]

So recently this guy got a thread dedicating to his review on Dark Souls 2. I haven't watched that yet due to not completing that game yet but he's also done reviews of all of the mainline Metal Gear games (including Peace Walker)

You can check it out here.

His "reviews" are more critiques and are thus very long. He goes through the whole game so be sure to know there will be spoilers. I recommend everyone check out not only his MG reviews but other games as well.

 

[cackhyena]

Just watched his Revengeance review. Not bad. Maybe I should have given the game a chance.

 

[G-Fex]

I wish I had my copy of revengeance back.

 

[AlienKebab]

Don't see why you people hate on Rising other than being canon.
It's a

Spoiler

solid

and decent action game, with lots of good bosses and an excellent soundtrack that fits the game very well.
But yes, the story isn't anything to take seriously, but is entertaining when seen as a parody or joke.

And speaking of rankings

MGS1 > MGS3 > MGS2 > MGS4 > MGR > Peace Walker

 

[G-Fex]

I'm really enjoying MGS3. Ocelot fight was great. I think tomorrow it'll be time for me to get to FEAAAAAAAARRRRRR and The End.

 

[Noisepurge]

rankingz!
MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS1 > MGSW > MGR > MGS4

 

[raven777]

rankingz!
MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS1 > MGSW > MGR > MGS4

MGS2>MGS1>MGS4>MGS3>MGR

havent played PW yet.

based on playing GZ, TPP can be above MGS2 as best MGS game for me.

 

[Noisepurge]

based on playing GZ, TPP can be above MGS2 as best MGS game for me.

yeah will be really interesting to see how well they can pull off TPP.
Ground Zeroes was really fun gameplay-wise and really dark story-tone-wise. Very eager to see how it comes together.
(didn't rank GZ as it wouldn't be fair)

 

[Omikaru]

Rankings!

MGS2 > MGS1 = MGS3 > MGS PW >>>>>> MGS4

 

[G-Fex]

I'm pretty damn late but http://www.twitch.tv/uknighted

having a E-Extreme playthrough of MGS and MGS2. They're just over the halfway point of MGS1

 

[Woffls]

The more I play MGS4, the more obvious it is to me that the story really suffered from trying to clear up all the other loose ends. It's such a sporadic narrative, and I don't really enjoy watching the cut-scenes any more. Though, I did just sit through all of them for the third time.

Even MGS2 was so much more focussed. It might have been a bit ridiculous, but it was a solid (har har) story. I think I might put 4 back behind 1 in my rankings... but it's close.

Finished Rising last week and it absolutely blew me away. Such a fun game. Everything about it was spot on.

 

[Hurley]

I'm pretty damn late but http://www.twitch.tv/uknighted

having a E-Extreme playthrough of MGS and MGS2. They're just over the halfway point of MGS1

Sweet, love these streams.

I can never get tired of these games, I swear. Doesn't matter how many times I've played through them myself or watched these streams.

 

[MacNille]

I think that Senator Armstrong is one of the best villians in VG in recent years. Is he complex? Not so much. Is his design unique? Nope, but he is just so much fun. You can't take this guy seriously! I don't think that I have laugh so fucking much when I fought him.

Also, Sundowner has the biggest shiteating grin in VG history.

 

[Savantcore]

Rankings?

MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 > MGS1 > MGS: PW

 

[Batzi]

Rankings?

MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 > MGS1 > MGS: PW

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>PW>MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>PW>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG2>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGS3=MGS1>MGS2>PW>MGS4>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

MGS1>MGS3>MGS2>MGS4>>>MGSPW

 

[JayEH]

I think that Senator Armstrong is one of the best villians in VG in recent years. Is he complex? Not so much. Is his design unique? Nope, but he is just so much fun. You can't take this guy seriously! I don't think that I have laugh so fucking much when I fought him.

Also, Sundowner has the biggest shiteating grin in VG history.

Can't disagree with this. I wish more Western games would go really goofy with their villains.

 

[Ephemeris]

I wish I could understand my MGS brothers and sisters who put MGS2 above the rest. I read the reasonings but I just can't.

 

[Holykael1]

I wish I could understand my MGS brothers and sisters who put MGS2 above the rest. I read the reasonings but I just can't.

Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2YuPGYabw

 

[SJRB]

Man, Strangelove's boobs are rather disappointing in HD. This endeavour was a waste of time.

 

[JayEH]

Man, Strangelove's boobs are rather disappointing in HD. This endeavour was a waste of time.

Hahaha. You were going for the wrong girl. Amanda is the hottest in Peace Walker.

 

[tryagainlater]

Chico is going to become the hottest girl though

 

[Itchy//Tasty]

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>PW>MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>PW>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG2>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGS3=MGS1>MGS2>PW>MGS4>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

I salute this post.

 

[thesolidshark]

My list feels like this for now. Thanks to Batzi for the format.

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ=MGR=MGS4>PW>MGS3>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS4=MGS2>MGS1>MGS3>MG2>MGR>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGR=MGS2>MGS3>MGS4>MGS1>PW>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

 

[wilsonda]

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>PW>MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>PW>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG2>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGS3=MGS1>MGS2>PW>MGS4>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

Yea, I've got to agree with this post 100%

 

[uberluigi]

Snake Eater (Live at Symphony Hall): http://youtu.be/I8pg2XoQTlA

Reminds me how awesome Snake Eaters music was, hopeing Phantom Pain delivers too.

Edit: Also my ranking
MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGSPW>MGS4

 

[atr0cious]

So I went off looking for more renditions of Snake Eater and happened across this gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkEV-RI6aGI

But what was more surprising was the comment section:

Hideo Kojima created Metal Gear Solid 3. Years of development, millions of dollars spent... And I just got the joke. It was all for a Snakes and Ladders pun. You may start kicking yourselves now.

I never thought of that.

 

[Nerdkiller]

Also, Sundowner has the biggest shiteating grin in VG history.

Naaa.

Finally going for MGS2's dog tags.

 

[SJRB]

Hahaha. You were going for the wrong girl. Amanda is the hottest in Peace Walker.

I have a thing for Strangelove, I love her snobby attitute. Also, she's smart. Vanessa Marshall is one of the best voice actors in the series.

But when it comes to looks I agree with Miller: Cecile is where it's at man, come on.

 

[Pollux]

I've never played anything in this series, can I jump in with GZ? I know the answer is no, p but I no longer have a PS3.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

This was in the Figure thread, thought some of you in here might be interested

 

[valkyre]

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>PW>MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>PW>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG2>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGS3=MGS1>MGS2>PW>MGS4>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

I'll use this great template as well:

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>MGS4>MGS3>PW>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS1=MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MG1>PW>MPO>MG2

In terms of boss fights:

MGS1=MGS4>MGS3>MGS2>MG1>PW>MPO>MG2

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else. Damn Straight!

 

[Icefire1424]

This was in the Figure thread, thought some of you in here might be interested

So yea, gotta ask. Where did this come from, how does one acquire one, and are there more like it, etc. etc...

 

[Kajiba]

Yesterday finally got 100% in Ground Zeroes. Feels good man.

I'll join the ranking list a little.

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4

 

[Savantcore]

In terms of gameplay:

MGSV:GZ>PW>MGS3>MGS4>MGS2>MPO>MGS1>MG2>MG1

In terms of story:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4>PW>MGSV:GZ>MPO>MG2>MG1

In terms of boss fights:

MGS3=MGS1>MGS2>PW>MGS4>MPO>MG2>MG1

Overall

Metal Gear > Everything else.

Yep, best way to do it. I'd fiddle with some of your rankings but it's just impossible to single out the best MGS.

 

[MormaPope]

Wow, since we're doing series ratings -

Gameplay:
1. MGS2/A+
2. MGS Ground Zeroes/A+
3. MGS3/A
4. MGS1/B
5. MGS Peacewalker/B-
6. MGS4/C
7. Metal Gear 2/C-
8. Metal Gear 1/D

Story:
1. MGS2/A+
2. MGS3/A
3. MGS1/A
4. MGS Ground Zeroes/B
5. MGS Peace Walker/C
*Astronomical difference in story quality, unbelievable difference
6. Metal Gear 2/D
7. MGS4/D-
8. Metal Gear 1/D-

Boss fights:
1. MGS3/A+
2. MGS2/A
3. MGS1/A
4. MGS Peacewalker/C
5. MGS4/D
6. Metal Gear 2/D
7. Metal Gear 1/D

 

[Holykael1]

Alright

Gameplay:

MG Rising > MGS 4 > MGS 2 > MGS 1 > MGS PW = MGS 3

Story:

MGS 2 > MGS 4 > MGS 3 > MGS 1 > MGS PW > MG Rising

Boss FightsI'm not very clear on this point, is it in terms of narrative or gameplay? Im guessing from a gameplay standpoint)

MGS 1 > MG Rising > MGS 2=MGS 3 > MGS 4 > MGS PW

Overall:

Zero Escape > Metal Gear = Final Fantasy = Chrono = Xeno = Ace Attorney > Ys = Castlevania > everything else

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

So yea, gotta ask. Where did this come from, how does one acquire one, and are there more like it, etc. etc...

Its Revoltech similar to the 2 Big Boss and Raiden they already released, though this is a new smaller scale(little over 4 inches)

You can preorder here http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-005698&page=top
Other sites should have preorders soon

Late July release, about $23 without shipping.

 

[Gertso]

I wish I had my copy of revengeance back.

Me too. Hoping the PC version drops fairly quickly.

 

[Noisepurge]

I wish I could understand my MGS brothers and sisters who put MGS2 above the rest. I read the reasonings but I just can't.

Nostalgia mainly. It was so amazing when it came out. Great replay value too with just fooling around with the guards and details in the environment.

 

[MormaPope]

]Nostalgia mainly[/B]. It was so amazing when it came out. Great replay value too with just fooling around with the guards and details in the environment.

If that's how simple your argument is, people that put MGS4 above any MGS titles in any category engage in intellectual BDSM on a regular basis.