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Metal Gear Community Thread: Made you wait, didn't I?
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Icefire1424
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As a precaution I'm making a point to rescue every prisioner in GZ with the hopes that they will somehow end up in my base in TPP (if they even have the same "recruiting" mechanic in TPP as they did in PW, that is).
In reality, I'm sure my OCD tendencies won't even pay off, but even if there's a chance...heh.
TheCthultist
Member
Don't forget you can also use the chopper to abduct guards as well. Nt sure if they'll cross over, but it would be interesting if it effected TPP in some way.
E3 HYPE!
Update:
"The edit has come near to completion."
Man I can't even imagine what he will be showing with this one! I hope it is as long as the red band trailer!
psychotron
Member
I have a confession to make. I never never finished MGS:2. I remember making it to vamp back when it first came out and for some reason just stopped playing. I've beaten every other MGS since, but not that. I plan to remedy this soon though. Just picked up the HD collection on PS3 and Vita and I'm making it my mission to get through it.
Icefire1424
Member
Did think about that too actually, but as I recall from PW, Prisioners usually had better "stats", so figured I would get more value by targeting them. With that being said, in the
assassination
sniper/spotter
Stopped right before a few really cool segments too...
psychotron
Member
I know, it's been my greatest shame for years. I don't know why I didn't go back to it, especially being the big fan I am of the series.
Fancy Clown
Member
On the bright side it means you have more Metal Gear awesomeness at your fingertips that you've never played before! I've got nothing MGS to do but keep replaying GZ and the other games until Phantom Pain comes out
psychotron
Member
That update brought back my completion ratio to 85% (from 100%)
I wonder if you still need to find the fox badges to unlock the extra missions.
Nope. It's unlocked already if you unlocked Deja Vu or vice versa.
Fancy Clown
Member
That update brought back my completion ratio to 85% (from 100%)
Haha ouch, that's no phantom pain. If it drops 15%, mine is gonna be like 17 or something now...
2 of the trials were already unlocked in Normal mode. Didn't check the Hard difficulty. The trials are the same for Jamais Vu though in Normal. I am at work now so can't check the trophies but I assume there is one for the Jamais Vu mission which is this one http://www.xboxachievements.com/game/metal-gear-solid-5-ground-zeroes/achievement/85456-Hidden.html
It happened a couple of times before the patch. Normal. In fact, if you watch Kojima Station it happens often when they show a playthrough. Nothing to worry about, just exit the menu screen and press Options again.
J-Roderton
Member
Looks like I'm going to beat MGS2 before this weekend. Looking forward to 3, since I've heard it is the best from so many people. Gonna try to do that one without any help from a guide.
Also, is there any need to spoiler tag stuff from the old games?
Also, is there any need to spoiler tag stuff from the old games?
TickleMeElbow
Member
Going through the Legacy Collection right now. I'm surprised how good MGS 2 looks. The art style really holds up well, especially in HD.
Stated dabbling in snake tales, but I don't really know if I have the patience to finish them all. The urge to play MGS 3 is too strong.
Stated dabbling in snake tales, but I don't really know if I have the patience to finish them all. The urge to play MGS 3 is too strong.
Noisepurge
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not in this thread.
He was always loyal to Big Boss. He admired him and learned a lot from him. Whether he's good or bad is up for debate. But let's face it, the world of Metal Gear is split into two worlds. Big Boss' era and the Sons of Big Boss. Two ideologies, Big Boss' Outer Heaven and Zero's Patriots (New World Order). They both misinterpreted The Boss' will which was to bring the world together and make it one again. Their intentions were good but they did it all wrong.
Solid Snake was taught to hate Big Boss and was trained to kill him. We were told that Big Boss was a bad guy but then that was Zero's influence over the media so it's understandable. Big Boss sees Zero as a threat so he forms his own mercenary group but he's really not that different from Zero; he's creating an ideology and he expects people to join him and believe in it.
Long story short, they both had good intentions but circumstances forced them to take undesirable actions that reshaped them differently. Both have blood on their hands.
Fancy Clown
Member
He's a 'good guy' in the same sense Big Boss or Solidus could be considered good guys. His goal was to destroy the patriots which is pretty good, but he was a pretty shitty human being and the means he used to achieve his goals were certainly not good and involved killing and torturing many people.
J-Roderton
Member
Cool.
So I noticed last night playing MGS2, why didn't Ocelot just kill/fight Raiden when they were in the same room with the president? He was just like "See you soon." or whatever. Is Raiden being used or something?
Fancy Clown
Member
Just keep playing...
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Well I played through the Jamais Vu mission earlier today and it was absolutely fantastic I loved the Snatcher music that played throughout alongside the occasional bit of music from Revengence. I'd say even though I liked the MGS1 Deja Vu Mission, the snatcher mission was way better, and it makes me hope and want Kojima to remake or make a sequel to Snatcher using the Fox Engine.
I really love Robin Atkin Downes performance thoughout this entire game and I look forward to his dialog in The Phantom Pain...I also really hope Big Boss has more dialog, that's my only real disappointment with Ground Zeroes(and the fact that attachments are so limited) overall, is that the few snippets of Kiefer's Big Boss were just little teases.
That said I really like Kiefer's performance, especially in the tapes he really reminds me of
Does anyone else think that perhaps the last Half to a quarter of Phantom Pain might be a remake of the events of MG1 and 2? The thing that makes me think that's happening is the fact that:
A) Hideo has no desire to remake those games...maybe because he already has
B) That it(The Phantom Pain) will contradict the canon a bit to tell the story he wants to tell
C) The Phantom Pain is about how Big Boss becomes a villain, revenge and how that cycle continues.
It'd be neat to go from playing as Big Boss, building up Diamond Dogs and then eventually that becomes Outer Heaven, a time skip occurs and then you have to infiltrate the base you just spent hours and hours upgrading as Solid Snake. I think it'd be cool if that was the case and how difficult it would end up being for Solid Snake to infiltrate would be based on what you did or didn't do while playing as Big Boss.
It's probably a complete pipe dream, but hey dreams are nice eh? Whatever Hideo Kojima cooks up for us will surely be amazing though.
I really love Robin Atkin Downes performance thoughout this entire game and I look forward to his dialog in The Phantom Pain...I also really hope Big Boss has more dialog, that's my only real disappointment with Ground Zeroes(and the fact that attachments are so limited) overall, is that the few snippets of Kiefer's Big Boss were just little teases.
That said I really like Kiefer's performance, especially in the tapes he really reminds me of
Big Boss voiced by Richard Doyle at the end of MGS4.
Does anyone else think that perhaps the last Half to a quarter of Phantom Pain might be a remake of the events of MG1 and 2? The thing that makes me think that's happening is the fact that:
A) Hideo has no desire to remake those games...maybe because he already has
B) That it(The Phantom Pain) will contradict the canon a bit to tell the story he wants to tell
C) The Phantom Pain is about how Big Boss becomes a villain, revenge and how that cycle continues.
It'd be neat to go from playing as Big Boss, building up Diamond Dogs and then eventually that becomes Outer Heaven, a time skip occurs and then you have to infiltrate the base you just spent hours and hours upgrading as Solid Snake. I think it'd be cool if that was the case and how difficult it would end up being for Solid Snake to infiltrate would be based on what you did or didn't do while playing as Big Boss.
It's probably a complete pipe dream, but hey dreams are nice eh? Whatever Hideo Kojima cooks up for us will surely be amazing though.
littlegrasshopper
Member
Downloaded the patch today and played the new Raiden mission. Playing as him was fun. Loved his running ability.
Rogue Agent
Banned
I don't remember his exact statement, but in a Twitch interview this year, Kojima implied that he may have to remake the MSX games due to things that have been retconned in those games. Something like that.
Rogue Agent
Banned
To improve the chances of getting a part, such as the Railgun, Jet Boosters, etc. you need to destroy an AI weapon without damaging the part you want. E.G. To have a chance of getting thr Railgun, destroy the Chrysallis without damaging the Railgun.
If you have a high-rank Analyser, take that in the mission and you can see the health bars of each part of the Chrysallis in the pause menu.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Couldn't stop laughing. Well done!
All this grinding you're doing is really turning me off on the idea of finishing Peace Walker...
Rogue Agent
Banned
Don't do Cocoon. With Cocoon, you may get Armour for your ZEKE and that's not required. Get the Railgun and Radome from the Chrysallis and the Boosters from the Pupa.
Rogue Agent
Banned
Don't worry about AI storage, that's just to make your ZEKE stronger.
Sorry, I meant Jet Pack instead of boosters. That means you've got the almost everything.
So now you only need Radome fromt he Chrysallis.
Sorry, I meant Jet Pack instead of boosters. That means you've got the almost everything.
So now you only need Radome fromt he Chrysallis.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Yeah it's probably the worst thing about the game besides the story.
And Hayter's Performance was absolutely cringe inducing.
Interesting, let me know if you can find the video! I like watching his interviews, but I wish he was more animated like in the Japanese Kojima station episodes! SO much emotion, I think the last time I saw an interview where Kojima seemed genuinely excited to develop a new MGS was around the time of MGS3. That is my favorite one in the entire series besides the first, second, and fourth.
On my first pass through the series, just beat Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. That was a real fun experience. I had a hell of a time at the start of the game with getting caught every 3 seconds and getting lost as a motherfucker, but it picked up as things went along. I liked how the key cards were consolidated into the three colored cards to prevent from the huge time wasted sorting through menus like in the first game, and I really enjoyed some of the bosses. The invisible guy and Big Boss were particularly memorable. I do think that the backtracking was handled a little better in the first game, and something like the swamp is never really needed, but I did like the length compared to the first game, as well as the much smarter guards. In retrospect, I do think that I should have gone with Original difficulty instead of Easy, because by the end, I was just packing dozens of rations with near-infinite ammo and I know that's not how you're supposed to play the game. For the Solid games, I'll probably go with the normal difficulty; I just wanted to get through the MSX games first to play the series in order.
I'm excited to move on to Metal Gear Solid now, since that's clearly the one that put the series really on the map!
I'm excited to move on to Metal Gear Solid now, since that's clearly the one that put the series really on the map!
Rogue Agent
Banned
Here's the question and answer - it starts with ZOE and then goes to the MSX games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufKS1gdnIGU&t=39m42s
Yeah, he's so electric in those Kojima Station episodes!
Yeah, he was excited during those times. It looks like he has renewed interest in the series once again, which is cool. But we'll see when the main game finally gets released. From the written interviews/articles, he seemed happy with PW too, in terms of it being an experiment.
Got another pupa. While playing around inside it I had an action prompt. What'd I miss?
And I hate the Chrysalis fight.
Never mind. Lock on missiles are awesome.
M47 Rocket Launcher is the best. But yeah, even then. Chrysallis is an annoying piece of junk.
Fancy Clown
Member
Hmmm debating whether I should finish up Peace Walker's final chapter or not...on one hand I'm kinda in the mood for some Peace Walker after spending 9 hours in GZ over the past few days, but on the other I'm not sure I really want to bother with grinding AI fights instead of doing sneaking missions.
What's the best/easiest way to get ZEKE parts? Just fighting the story AI battles because they're the easiest?
What's the best/easiest way to get ZEKE parts? Just fighting the story AI battles because they're the easiest?
Rogue Agent
Banned
Yes. Just fight those and make sure you don't damage the parts that you need.
Fancy Clown
Member
Alright thanks. I'll just aim for the AI pods
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Super Jelly that Japan gets more Kojima Station episodes then us. (and Kojima himself
Are there subtitled versions of the Japanese KojiStat videos?
I like Sean Eyestone and the gang on the English cast, but I also don't wanna miss out on first-hand Kojima insight.
wintermute0
Banned
Welcome to the worst part of Peace Walker.
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