Then why is he shooting those hallucinations? Why wouldn't Psycho Mantis just stop when he is outside? Also we see a huge wale devouring a chopper. The chopper obviously symbolises the chopper they are in at the end of GZ and the whale symbolizes Zero.
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Then why is he shooting those hallucinations? Why wouldn't Psycho Mantis just stop when he is outside? Also we see a huge wale devouring a chopper. The chopper obviously symbolises the chopper they are in at the end of GZ and the whale symbolizes Zero.
He's taking down a chopper here. Possibly a XOF chopper. The take down is depicted as a whale eating it though. If Big Boss is Ahab and Moby Dick eats that chopper than that chopper is Ahab's ship meaning that Mantis destroyed the ship (chopper) that Ahab was suppose to be on. Wait a minute...
Stratosphere
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Right, which would still support the Ocelot vs Mantis vs XOF theory.He's taking down a chopper here. Possibly a XOF chopper.
Edit: Also, apparently I need to read Moby Dick.
I love it because it actually takes advantage of the medium and do things that couldn't be done if it was a movie. It could limit our perspective yeah, but I really like what we've seen so far
Stratosphere
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Now I'm just confused lol. Someone draw me a flowchart, stat!Read my edit
They did have a fourth wall moment. PS3 is too strong.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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He's taking down a chopper here. Possibly a XOF chopper. The take down is depicted as a whale eating it though. If Big Boss is Ahab and Moby Dick eats that chopper than that chopper is Ahab's ship meaning that Mantis destroyed the ship (chopper) that Ahab was suppose to be on. Wait a minute...
Wait a second. Are you telling me that DARPA Chief was Decoy Octopus all along?!
That scene turned one of my favorite moments in gaming history into a really sad, D-tier joke. I at least wish it had been funny. -_-
He's taking down a chopper here. Possibly a XOF chopper. The take down is depicted as a whale eating it though. If Big Boss is Ahab and Moby Dick eats that chopper than that chopper is Ahab's ship meaning that Mantis destroyed the ship (chopper) that Ahab was suppose to be on. Wait a minute...
The real Big Boss is on that chopper? Or is Big Boss not Ahab? Kaz?
Wait for TPP so it can be redeemed.
I hated when Otacon told me to insert disk 2.
The scene is symbolizing the story of Moby Dick.
It's subjective and to me its a quality > quantity issue. PW is a good game but to me it was just an improved PO. Basically a huge collection of small boring missions. Me not giving a shit about the story probably has something to do with it too.
You're still assuming that Zero was behind the attack on Mother Base because of his alliance with Skull Face which has not been confirmed yet either.
Jimmyfenix
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5 - Demon souls
4 - Metal gear rising
3 - Fallout 3
2 - Red dead redemption
1 - The Last Of Us
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Power of the Cell Processor.
My friends at lunch told me PS3 will be as powerful as a supercomputer.
Stratosphere
Member
Shit man, I hope you brought flame retardant.
Dark Souls, Uncharted 2, The Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, MGS4.
In no particular order: Mass Effect 2, Dark Souls, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, MGS4.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Last of Us, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, MGS4
Man, I looked at a list of the "Fans Top 100" and holy shit did I not play much last gen. It was an era of reading news, not playing. At least I'm actively playing a bit more now.
I thought PW was boring as fuck. There.
Yeah, but thats my theory ofcourse. And I don't think I'm alone in that. :>
hammertomb
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Fallout 3, Mass Effect 2, Halo 3, MW2, GTA IV
Not in any order
1. Halo 3
2. Fallout 3
3. Assassin's Creed 2
4. MGS4
5.Dark Souls
Yea I heard my professor say something like that a couple weeks ago. Its something about putting a whole bunch of PS3s together or something.
I agree.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Here we gooo
hammertomb
Banned
There are now two of us.
Love Deterrence
Member
1. Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker
Well, never mind. It's not a full game.
2. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Awesome closing to Solid Snake's arc with stealth gameplay unmatched to this day.
3. Catherine
Took me by complete surprise. Had never played a game from the Holy Trinity (Katsura Hashino, Shigenori Soejima and Shoji Meguro), and they instantly became my favorite studio alongside Kojima Productions, as I was inspired by Catherine to play their other classics such as Persona 3 and Persona 4.
4. Mass Effect
Deep story driven by player choice with awesome gameplay - including fairly in-depth customization.
5. Mass Effect 2
Took me a little while to adjust, as I was expecting gameplay more in line with ME1. More combat-focused than exploration-focused, so that's why I give the slight edge to ME1. That said, what a game. Paragon and Renegade actions took the story-telling to a new level.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Wipeout HD
Fallout New Vegas
Valkyria Chronicles
Dark Souls
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (I'm not joking or trying to be cute)
hammertomb
Banned
Mw2 would definitely be on my top 10
Stratosphere
Member
I'll put myself out there as well I guess. I thought the PW story was pretty bad and uninteresting. I also hated that all the bosses were AI, no personality. Not memorable at all. The Zeke battle at the end was also cringe-worthy.
That being said I did love all the mother base features. The whole time though I kept thinking "Damn if only they would go all out on this MB thing on consoles". And here we are!
That being said I did love all the mother base features. The whole time though I kept thinking "Damn if only they would go all out on this MB thing on consoles". And here we are!
MW2 is great, I just picked CoD 4 since it started everything.
BanditoMac
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Eh I don't see why that'd be a shocking thing. I always felt the game was pretty divisive.
Peace Walker definitely had a ton of content but didn't really put all of it together in any meaningful or exciting way, especially if you primarily played solo. There were no real stand out moments for me, no water cooler or "oh snap" moments since I felt Paz's arc wasn't really earned. She was a complete background face until that sudden turn of events that only happened by chance for me anyway (unlocking the real ending).
I don't think it's a terrible game, and I had some fun spots, but overall it definitely does not punch in the same weight class as the other games. Obviously, just my opinion! Like I said, I still did enjoy it.
The story of MW2 and others like BO2, and AW remind me of MGS 4.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Honorable indie shoutouts to Hotline Miami and FTL.
It was new and exciting. I bought it 3 different times. Those spec op missions that you could play solo were ridiculously hard on Veteran.
It was new and exciting. I bought it 3 different times. Those spec op missions that you could play solo were ridiculously hard on Veteran.
Liquid Shake
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No particular order:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
GTA V
Red Dead Redemption
Fallout 3
MGS 4
EDIT: Mass Effect 2 has to be in there, but I can't choose which to get rid of, so top 6 it is!
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
GTA V
Red Dead Redemption
Fallout 3
MGS 4
EDIT: Mass Effect 2 has to be in there, but I can't choose which to get rid of, so top 6 it is!
Awesome lists, guys.
I have trouble ranking games, but here goes.
5. Mass Effect
4. Peace Walker HD
3. Demon's Souls
2. The Last of Us
1. Fallout: New Vegas
Okay, that's your opinion. Nothing wrong with disliking an installment but saying it is not a full game is nonsense. Kojima got his mojo back with PW and created one of the most ambitious handheld games ever made.
I have trouble ranking games, but here goes.
5. Mass Effect
4. Peace Walker HD
3. Demon's Souls
2. The Last of Us
1. Fallout: New Vegas
Okay, that's your opinion. Nothing wrong with disliking an installment but saying it is not a full game is nonsense. Kojima got his mojo back with PW and created one of the most ambitious handheld games ever made.
I feel like TPP is set up so KojiPro has a format for Metal Gear when Kojima is gone.
Stratosphere
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I want to agree with this, but like I said how do we explain this scene in the GDC '13 trailer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xu2hWlUArE&t=3m27s
Hope not, I dont want every Metal Gear after to be dark and depressing. I love the tone of TPP but I dont want it to be the norm of the series from now on.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
For some reason I always forget Human Revolution. Fantastic game and one of the best turnarounds in reception I've seen. When the first teaser came out people were totally harsh on it, much less when gameplay footage released and it showed highlights of all the important items in the world. But it ended up turnout out be really good. edit because English is hard: But it ended up turning out really good.
Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for spurs that jingle jangle jingle.
BanditoMac
Member
Yeah this is what I was wondering as well. If I understand correctly, some were saying Mantis helped BB by causing that hallucination with firey explosion and character, but then why is he then after BB on the horse?
I thought we were talking about game set up? TPP's gameplay structure is easily replicated.
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