Screaming Meat
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Oh hell yeah. Kojima made MGS2, if there is anyone that can juggle high level concepts with stunning gameplay and titty shots, its Kojima-san.
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Oh hell yeah. Kojima made MGS2, if there is anyone that can juggle high level concepts with stunning gameplay and titty shots, its Kojima-san.
Jimmyfenix
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hello ld
Mexen
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Or Big Boss IS Skullface. An alter ego? I have a feeling this has been brought up here, lemme go Detective GAF.
Screaming Meat
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I got banned from there years ago. I accidentally posted in the wrong sub forum and some Texan guy got really shitty with me. After much to and fro, I ended the conversation with:
"I thought they executed retards in Texas. Looks like one slipped through the net."
Needless to say, I got a stern threat from a mod which I promptly said he could shove up his arse.
What? I was young. Ish.
I dunno, he's definitely real at one point. Guards talk about him in GZ. There are recordings of his voice from before Big Boss shows up.
Necrojection
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Lol, is NeoGAF rather strict if we're talking about rules?
Mexen
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Is that the doctor ("9 years") around the 0:24 mark of trailer 1?
Fair enough. Just that the way Kojima depicts him in the trailers sends odd vibes. I would, therefore, like to throw in a theory of psychotherapy and hypnosis at this point a la Liquid Ocelot.
Screaming Meat
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Chakra_Khan
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Anybody else notice that mantis is wearing the same red sash on his left shoulder cuff that eli is?
Mexen
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Necrojection
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My bad, I'm sorry for not reading too carefully.
Screaming Meat
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All good!
swearing-circle
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MGO twitter just tweeted that they wouldn't be showing any gameplay today.
Necrojection
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Which twitter account?
Screaming Meat
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I just had a crazy thought for MGO: What if there was a Skulls mode, where one player gets all those whacky powers. That'd be nuts.
Where's the previews though?
Where's the previews though?
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Necrojection
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Thanks!
swearing-circle
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Doesn't look like we're getting anything today from the MGO side of things.
Hopefully get some TPP gameplay from the show floor.
Necrojection
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I actually think that it would be a very plausible game mode. Lots of options with this new MGO.
Screaming Meat
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-dge
RevolverRoden
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That kinda sucks. Changing an iconic part of a character for some product placement.
And, even though I'm a newcomer and don't "know" you, welcome back :^)
mgs2master2
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just reposting my thoughts?
Screaming Meat
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I fully agree. Only logical explanation at this point. I imagine he's like an evil Jiminy Cricket.
Ending revealed: Big Boss turns into real life boy.
I'm sure it'll be posted online. Fingers crossed.Oh god I really hope we get to see this too.
But it wouldn't make any sense not to post it later online since it looks like this isn't behind closed doors.
RevolverRoden
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I'm kind of wondering what else could they possibly show gameplay-wise that's not MGO. I feel like we've seen everything. Unless they're going to show a new location.
Mexen
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This is a spoiler regarding Brazil's infamous revelation.
I want to see how deeply related the customization in TPP is to MGO. Create player once? Seperately? Etc
Chicken hat gameplay with the new Triumph motorcycle.
Marty-esque
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Hopefully it's on there tonight. Sounds like it might not be if it's all day.YES GAMEPLAY DEMO LATER ON YOUTUBE CONFIRMED!!
Embearded
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YES GAMEPLAY DEMO LATER ON YOUTUBE CONFIRMED!!
Thanks for the news brother! That's great!
I want 20-30 min gameplay of exploring so i can watch it everyday until September 15th!
Graphics Horse
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I think revealing the super secret co-op feature and a proper look at what happens when one player is defending a base invasion. Also d-dog walkies.
Mexen
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YES GAMEPLAY DEMO LATER ON YOUTUBE CONFIRMED!!
Yassssss
Necrojection
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Awesome! Gameplay is what we need.
You added those sunglasses recently, right? Pretty cool.
Mexen
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Hellz yeah, brother!
Cheers! Yeah, my personal Avatar Creator 9000 ran some algorithms and here we are. Drew inspiration from this
Necrojection
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Hellz yeah, brother!
Cheers! Yeah, my personal Avatar Creator 9000 ran some algorithms and here we are. Drew inspiration from this
Nice!
So NeoGAF thinks that we'll get some footage/gameplay regarding the Mother Base invasions, co-op, a new location and maybe a MGO match?
Hellz yeah, brother!
Cheers! Yeah, my personal Avatar Creator 9000 ran some algorithms and here we are. Drew inspiration from this
Otacon is looking suave.
Embearded
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Hellz yeah, brother!
Cheers! Yeah, my personal Avatar Creator 9000 ran some algorithms and here we are. Drew inspiration from this
Naomi is fucking hot with those glasses! Nicely done Mexen!
Awsome!
MGSV trailers during finals is really refreshing!
Screaming Meat
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Another cross post.
There are a couple of things in GZ that I think undermine the current thinking that Skullface literally being Big Boss (outside of the obvious impossible situations and physical voice recordings):
1) A number of guards make reference to the Black Ops team. One pair reference Skullface directly, mentioning his "sawed off lever-action rifle". It could be a red herring, it could be a weapon Big Boss adopts in his Skullface persona, but to me It suggests the foreshadowing of an Ocelot/Olga style boss battle at some point in TPP which could lead to his death.
2) Chico is a pretty compelling argument on his own. Skullface speaks to him in Big Boss-isms and he is initially scared when Big Boss himself comes to rescue him.
However, Prisoner 12282 has a very similar experience to Chico (Big Boss-isms) and isn't scared when rescued. Juicy Bob and TheProdigal mentioned in the other thread that there is a tape that suggests Skullface told Chico that BB would likely kill him for the betrayal, which explains away why he is scared more succinctly than 'Skullface is Big Boss'.
Prisoner 12282 even says he saw Skullface's face, although he can't remember it. This could support the Skullface is Big Boss theory, if it weren't for the fact that he recognises and clearly remembers Big Boss when rescued, which seems a little incongruous, if not quite damning.
I think Skullface quoting Big Boss has more to it than him literally being Big Boss. As a character aware of the power of language, using Big Boss' words as weapons is a way of taking on his aspect. I'm not quite sure what this suggests at this point, but literally being him seems almost crass considering the lofty concepts Kojima is throwing about.
3) Paz isn't scared of Big Boss when he rescues her either, and she arguably spent the most time with Skullface. Tellingly, the post-credit sting has this exchange:
Paz: This will save Big Boss?
Skull Face: It may.
The post-credit sting, as it has always been, is not from the main characters perspective and is something they often aren't aware of. They are specifically for the player, acting as a reversal or dramatic irony. If Paz was faced with Big Boss as Skullface, her asking this question becomes problematic.
Like I say, none of this is hard and fast, just my interpretation of events. I do believe that Big Boss will be haunted by a Skullface hallucination (amongst others), but the above (along with the impossible situations and voice recordings, which are hard to ignore) is why I think he has to be real at some point rather than entirely a figment of BB's psychosis/split personality.
There are a couple of things in GZ that I think undermine the current thinking that Skullface literally being Big Boss (outside of the obvious impossible situations and physical voice recordings):
1) A number of guards make reference to the Black Ops team. One pair reference Skullface directly, mentioning his "sawed off lever-action rifle". It could be a red herring, it could be a weapon Big Boss adopts in his Skullface persona, but to me It suggests the foreshadowing of an Ocelot/Olga style boss battle at some point in TPP which could lead to his death.
2) Chico is a pretty compelling argument on his own. Skullface speaks to him in Big Boss-isms and he is initially scared when Big Boss himself comes to rescue him.
However, Prisoner 12282 has a very similar experience to Chico (Big Boss-isms) and isn't scared when rescued. Juicy Bob and TheProdigal mentioned in the other thread that there is a tape that suggests Skullface told Chico that BB would likely kill him for the betrayal, which explains away why he is scared more succinctly than 'Skullface is Big Boss'.
Prisoner 12282 even says he saw Skullface's face, although he can't remember it. This could support the Skullface is Big Boss theory, if it weren't for the fact that he recognises and clearly remembers Big Boss when rescued, which seems a little incongruous, if not quite damning.
I think Skullface quoting Big Boss has more to it than him literally being Big Boss. As a character aware of the power of language, using Big Boss' words as weapons is a way of taking on his aspect. I'm not quite sure what this suggests at this point, but literally being him seems almost crass considering the lofty concepts Kojima is throwing about.
3) Paz isn't scared of Big Boss when he rescues her either, and she arguably spent the most time with Skullface. Tellingly, the post-credit sting has this exchange:
Paz: This will save Big Boss?
Skull Face: It may.
The post-credit sting, as it has always been, is not from the main characters perspective and is something they often aren't aware of. They are specifically for the player, acting as a reversal or dramatic irony. If Paz was faced with Big Boss as Skullface, her asking this question becomes problematic.
Like I say, none of this is hard and fast, just my interpretation of events. I do believe that Big Boss will be haunted by a Skullface hallucination (amongst others), but the above (along with the impossible situations and voice recordings, which are hard to ignore) is why I think he has to be real at some point rather than entirely a figment of BB's psychosis/split personality.
Love Deterrence
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Thanks, guys!!!! AND HELLO JIMMY! 😂😂😂
el_colibri
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Theory time!
Snake, due to his massive head damage, will hallucinate a LOT during the game.
Snake, due to his massive head damage, will hallucinate a LOT during the game.
Firy Volgin and the other supernatural elements are all due to this. The scenes in which snake is covered in blood with lots of dead bodies around is because he killed them in his madness. He snaps out of it and realises what he's done!
Jackie and Sean make a random cameo in this E3 Konami booth Vine! 
http://twitter.com/foxyredspecs/status/610859869873307648
Couldn't get a decent screengrab of Sean, he was moving to fast ;-)
http://twitter.com/foxyredspecs/status/610859869873307648
Couldn't get a decent screengrab of Sean, he was moving to fast ;-)
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