If you run past the Mastiffs in the subway tunnel, wouldn't they just follow you to the train platform at the end? You'd then have like six of them ganging up on you at once. :-O
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance PC Version |OT| Violence Breeds Violence
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I really like the boss fight until he throws the piles of rubble at you. I'll just have to get better at blade mode I guess.
Whenever devs put frantic QTEs to one of the sticks I like to think they have deal with Sony to increase dualshock sales.
You can run under the debris he throws at you with Ninja Run.
Use Ninja Run to get out of the way of the flaming fist. Just run away when he starts charging up.
These are probably the two most frustrating sections.
How do you do that? I had to play through Chapter 7 to get to Armstrong.
Couldn't find anything in the chapter select menu.
Nope.
That is what I had to do. Blade Mode was the weakest part of my play by far.
Change it to controller style B. Rotate the left stick around the axis to line up the shot, let go of the stick for it to cut at that angle. Use the right stick to position.
You don't have to cut the rubble. You can ninja run toward him and go right under it. Just cut the rubble if you want the nanopaste inside. Otherwise, don't bother.
Finish the DLC or just enter the konami code at the press start screen. Personally I just used the konami code since I've played the DLC on consoles and think the bladewolf DLC is garbage, didn't want to play through it again.
Oh ok then. Well I plan on doing the DLC eventually. I really want to learn more about Sam's motivations and Blade Wolf's history.
I think I am going to take a bit of a break from the game and play some Metro: Last Light, another potential GOTY.
Really ending it on a high note after beating Armstrong no damage last night. Feels good.
It also gives you a chance to deal massive damage to Armstrong. Cutting the rubble is totally worth it. Once you get the 4 or 5 Nanopastes it drops, there's almost no way you can lose the fight.
Thanks, didn't think of that.
I cut the rubble myself, but I'm just letting him know there is an alternate way to approach the fight, with its own pros and cons (essentially: less risk, less reward).
Just did mistral so it turns out you can.
ambar_hitman
Member
Ummm how can I start the DLCs? I dont see them anywhere? Do we need to beat the game once to unlock them?
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Beat the game to unlock them, alternatively you can use the Konami code on the main menu to unlock them (only recommended if you already went through the game on console).
Pretty sure it saves once you collect any of the data packages, left hands, MIBs, so you don't need to finish the chapter.
SoulUnison
Banned
The way most of the boss themes seem to be made so as to seem written by the boss themselves is amazing.
"I am am a stranger who has an even stranger war."
-Mistral
"Oh how pretty, all the scenery. This is nature's sacrifice.
When the sun sets we will not forget the Red Sun over Paradise."
-Sundowner
"Standing here I realize, you were just like me - tried to make history.
When our guard is down, I think we'll both agree:
That violence breeds violence.
But, in the end, it has to be this way."
-Armstrong
"Heat of the desert. Dust settles on my face. Without a compass, the soldier knows no disgrace.
Out of the ashes, the eagle rises still. Freedom is calling to all men who bend their will.
-Khamsin
"I am am a stranger who has an even stranger war."
-Mistral
"Oh how pretty, all the scenery. This is nature's sacrifice.
When the sun sets we will not forget the Red Sun over Paradise."
-Sundowner
"Standing here I realize, you were just like me - tried to make history.
When our guard is down, I think we'll both agree:
That violence breeds violence.
But, in the end, it has to be this way."
-Armstrong
"Heat of the desert. Dust settles on my face. Without a compass, the soldier knows no disgrace.
Out of the ashes, the eagle rises still. Freedom is calling to all men who bend their will.
-Khamsin
BackwardsSuggestions
Member
Holy sweet Jesus I suck. Keep getting killed 2 minutes into the dog boss fight.
Holy sweet Jesus I suck. Keep getting killed 2 minutes into the dog boss fight.
Sam DLC? Its fucking hard, I'll probably have to play through that one on Normal. At least until I get Sam figured out.
Agreed, the final boss is amazing.
One of the most satisfying bosses to fight, and even more in Sam's DLC.
bigninja
Member
Holy sweet Jesus I suck. Keep getting killed 2 minutes into the dog boss fight.
I did too until I realized that
parry-up
ambar_hitman
Member
Thanks. I have beaten the game on 360, played through half of it on PS3. Will use Konami code to unlock it on Steam.
chrominance
Member
Like others mentioned, you can keep the scanner on if you move normally instead of ninja run. Stealth is optional, you don't have to use it at all or only as much as you need--for example, my strategy was just to sneak up on the mastiffs and OHK them from behind. Most enemies are basically blind and deaf if you approach from behind, mastiffs included, and they move slowly enough that getting the jump on them is usually not an issue. And when you do screw up, no problem, just kick their ass--no automatic game over!
Stick waggling does suck, though. And the camera's no fun either.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I posted this earlier but it's probably the best tip I can give to people for playing Sam.
If you ask me the best way to play Sam is to be more mindful of positioning and zoning and learning how taunt really works. Taunt basically puts enemies in an extremely aggressive stance where they do a lot of damage but they also take like 500% more damage.
The best tactic you can use as Sam is Taunt -> backflip (to cancel taunt animation) -> Hop (tap jump) -> and while you're in the air charge heavy (it's called avalanche in the movelist). That's probably the hardest hitting attack in Sams arsenal that can be accessed on the fly. His actual strongest attack I believe is Light Light Light Light Heavy Charge the issue with this is that by the time you reach the end of the combo chain unless the enemy is staggered it is unlikely you'll finish that charge before getting hit.
Avalanche has huge reach too so you can stay out of range of enemies since they're insanely aggressive while taunt
Nymphae
Banned
I have seen this written so many times now, it had better be true or I am going to be very disappointed lol. I remember people saying that about DMC4's last boss, and I was incredibly underwhelmed by that fight.
Holy sweet Jesus I suck. Keep getting killed 2 minutes into the dog boss fight.
That dog fight was so fun though, for some reason I got really pumped fighting it compared to the other fights in Raiden campaign. The first metal gear fight was better than the one in Raiden's campaign too.
The fucking VRs were kicking my ass though so I'm taking a break
Its because that fight has the best song in the OST.
Holy sweet Jesus I suck. Keep getting killed 2 minutes into the dog boss fight.
That dog is pretty tough. Puts the next boss to shame really.
OH YOU DIDN'T KNOW?
I think you'll enjoy it. If not have fun in Sam's DLC because he gets even harder.
Nymphae
Banned
haha, I know nothing other than people are really hyping it up as one of the coolest boss fights ever, can't wait to see what it is.
I've been on that one for the past 3 or so hours of play. The mastiffs, man. Then when you get down to just one mastiff, two pond scum spawn and flamethrower or AOE spin you into oblivion.
I got to the raptors, do you know how many waves there were left after those? I was disappointed I died there because I was pretty sure there couldn't be more lol
It was like an entire fucking chapter squeezed into 1 VR
I wouldn't get my hopes up. The whole fight did very little for me. Not going to spoil it for you but keep your expectations in check.
Just to lower your hype a bit, I love this game and I wasn't really impressed with the final boss too much. There were quite a few other bosses who were better.
Beat both DLC stories today, and wow, I do not get how to play as Sam at all. He feels like a slower, less versatile version of Raiden. Considering a lot of my usual fighting style with Raiden is based on mobility and getting cheap shots in with Defensive Offense, Sam and me just don't gel at all. And then they make you fight a variant of
with some new attacks. I clutched a win there, how are you even supposed to get an opening to attack?
Wolf on the other hand, was really fun. I like Ninja Kills with Raiden, and Wolf is pretty much based around those. Quick, mobile, sneaky, and with instant kills. Getting across the bridge without getting an alert was sweet.
I think I still prefer playing as Raiden, though. He's a good allrounder, neither as move-locked as Sam, nor as reliant on stealth as Wolf.
Armstrong
Wolf on the other hand, was really fun. I like Ninja Kills with Raiden, and Wolf is pretty much based around those. Quick, mobile, sneaky, and with instant kills. Getting across the bridge without getting an alert was sweet.
I think I still prefer playing as Raiden, though. He's a good allrounder, neither as move-locked as Sam, nor as reliant on stealth as Wolf.
Dick Justice
Banned
Sam's charge attack is insanely OP though. Just get some distance from a group of enemies, hold it down, and watch them scatter.
Yeah, it's great when there's an opening to use it. The final boss... doesn't have openings to stand still and charge for a few seconds. Also, he can fly if you try being sneaky and doing a jump charge. The only reason I beat him was that I just started playing reckless to the extreme.
Sam can actually be quite devastating with his taunt and charge attacks, and other moves like Assault Rush. Taunt boosts enemy attack power but lowers their defenses quite significantly and leaves them more prone to being sliced apart (similarly to Jack's Ripper state), and you can interrupt the taunt animation by dodging.
The Sam DLC on Hard is certainly harder than the main game on the same difficulty, but Sam is pretty fun to use and quite vicious if you get used to how he plays. The 4th VR mission is just insane, though. Haven't tried out the final boss with Sam yet; that should be pretty interesting, especially trying to no-damage him.
Taunt and the max charge attack does do a ton of damage. It's the "not getting killed right back" that's the problem for me with Sam.
I have never seen anyone praise DMC4's final boss. Its an average boss fight at best, nothing special.
Now DMC3 final boss is legit and so is MGR's final boss.
FUCK YES I BEAT SAM VR MISSION 4 ON HARD. A-RANK (somehow I missed a kill...? I must've let a cyborg explode. Should be S-rank bah)
This time, before starting the VR mission, I grabbed a single nanopaste from the main story, because I couldn't beat it with zero nanopastes. I finally used said nanopaste during the last round, but by then I was slicing up missiles for nanopastes.
Wave by wave:
[Wave 1]
2 x normal cyborgs
2 x riot shield cyborgs
1 x hammer bro
[Wave 2]
3 x mastiff
[Wave 3 - spawns when you've only killed two mastiffs!]
2 x vodomjerka
[Wave 4]
1 x gekko
2 x fenrir
[Wave 5]
2 x raptor
[Wave 6]
A bunch of dwarf gekkos
2 x armored RPG cyborgs
[Wave 7/final wave]
GRAD boss, complete with life bar
VR mission 4 made me appreciate Sam a lot, and I expect the rest of the DLC to be much easier now that I've played with him for so long. The air charge is certainly broken, and feels more like cheesing than anything else, but enemies just don't die fast enough without taunting, which leads to the move's abuse.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Sam is like the opposite of raiden. While raiden's chain enders don't matter, They're all you want as Sam.
I've warmed up to the dlc over time. At launch u also missed raiden's optiins and thought sam was limited, but I actually appreciate the more limited moveset as the content can be more tightly designed around it. While raiden has options to pretty much break every encounter in the main game, Sam's dlc forces you to play right to succeed. Almost no easy ways out in the chapter.
I just wish there was more original cintent within it.
I've warmed up to the dlc over time. At launch u also missed raiden's optiins and thought sam was limited, but I actually appreciate the more limited moveset as the content can be more tightly designed around it. While raiden has options to pretty much break every encounter in the main game, Sam's dlc forces you to play right to succeed. Almost no easy ways out in the chapter.
I just wish there was more original cintent within it.
Actually, something bothered me a bit when I replayed the main story this time around. Exactly what IS the villain plan in this one?
Just seems like a bit of a convoluted plan this one.
Okay, we know Armstrong wants to re-ignite the War on Terror and use that to catapult himself into becoming president. So he fakes an assassination attempt on the current president during a scheduled visit to Pakistan. That's all well and good, but... where does harvesting the brains of children fit into that?
Or was there two plans going at once? One to create a spike in the demand for cyborg PMCs and one to mass produce cyborg PMC soldiers by harvesting and VR raining the brains of children and potting those into cyborg bodies?
Just seems like a bit of a convoluted plan this one.
Nice work Miker
I'm not sure if there's a difference in the invincibility frames or speed between Raiden and Sam's dodges, but I actually feel more comfortable dodging with Sam. Maybe it's just the conventional roll-dodge animation (and sweet backflip).
Also taunting enemies seems to make it easier for them to break your guard, so that's something to keep in mind.
I'm not sure if there's a difference in the invincibility frames or speed between Raiden and Sam's dodges, but I actually feel more comfortable dodging with Sam. Maybe it's just the conventional roll-dodge animation (and sweet backflip).
Also taunting enemies seems to make it easier for them to break your guard, so that's something to keep in mind.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Sam's dodge recovers faster.
Raiden couldn't avoid armstrongs rush punch with his. Good thing he forgot about it.when they fought
Taunted enemies do chip on guard iirc.
Raiden couldn't avoid armstrongs rush punch with his. Good thing he forgot about it.when they fought
Taunted enemies do chip on guard iirc.
I'm under the impression it was
Fake Assasination attempt, pin it on Elderado
Ignite a second war on terror, using the PMCs WM created
Use that as platform to become president and do so
Inact Chaotic route of SMT
SandMan2233
Member
Well, as far as I see it...
I'm pretty sure you can look at it as two different plans that went together... World Marshall, Armstrong's PMC, was funding the children-into-cyborg program to help bolster his own private cyborg army, utilizing virtual programming based on George Sears' (Solidus Snake) training regimen.
As far as the false-flag assassination, I'm pretty sure the plan was less about guaranteeing the Presidency than it was bringing back the "War Economy" as it was before the fall of SOP. Sundowner makes reference to this, but more in terms of pure income. Armstrong sees the War Economy more like a valid point of view towards life, liberty and the American Way. Give them a war, and they'll come together and make way for serious change, which would basically boil down to a crazy scenario of extreme personal accountability, where every man or woman could ostensibly "fight wars" whether personal, domestic, foreign or otherwise.
Or something like that.
Yeah, but I still don't see the need to
harvest the brains from children to do that. It just seems like it's needlessly evil and complicated. Plus it was what turned Raiden against them all.
I mean, yeah, considering how crazy the story is in this game, i probably shouldn't dig too hard at it, but still...
Why the child brains?
SandMan2233
Member
To create more Jack the Rippers, I do believe. Or at least, to create soldiers on-par with Raiden.