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Is the Outer Heaven from Peace Walker the same one Snake infiltrates in Metal Gear? Snake sneaks into that one via harbor the same way Raiden did Big Shell, but you see parked trucks in a few areas on what looks like dirt/grass.

I hope they remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2. Sneaking into another Big Shell as Snake fighting Big Boss and the original Metal Gear would be cool.

 

[ScOULaris]

Okay, WHAT THE FUCK?!

I just got to the bridge scene in MGS3 where

Spoiler

the Cobra unit takes Sokolov and Snake gets thrown off of the bridge

, and there's no fucking rain falling during the "raining blood" scene! The characters have the rain splatter effect on them, but there's no rain coming down around them.

FIX THIS SHIT BLUEPOINT!!!!

 

[Oyashiro]

Called my local indie game shop, they said they're out of the PS3 LE but have some 360 LEs. Said they were probably getting a few more PS3 LEs soon so I'll keep calling.

 

[Yen]

Is the Outer Heaven from Peace Walker the same one Snake infiltrates in Metal Gear? Snake sneaks into that one via harbor the same way Raiden did Big Shell, but you see parked trucks in a few areas on what looks like dirt/grass.

I hope they remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2. Sneaking into another Big Shell as Snake fighting Big Boss and the original Metal Gear would be cool.

To answer your question in an unspoilery way:

Spoiler

Primarily, Outer Heaven is established as a concept in PW (though Gene suggests something similar in PO). In PW, your base is a bunch of platforms out at sea in South America. So it isn't what Snake infiltrates in MG.

End spoilers:

Spoiler

The post credits phonecall is Big Boss addressing his troops expressing a need for...AN OUTER HEAVEN

 

[TheBanditKing]

Maybe....Sell it for a good price, then buy MGS on Amazon. Kagari was selling a sealed one for around 140

Called my local store and someone did not pick up their pre-order for the LE so I am on my way to buy that. So in the end I am not loosing out just GameStop is, since the two games are not equal in price like I thought they lost $20 by sending me the wrong game. I just always think of the poor parents getting their 9 to 5 paycheck raped by scalpers in this tough economy just so they can make someone happy for the holidays.

 

[Wario64]

MGS avatars on PSN are up

 

[Ridley327]

Oh boy oh boy, I am glad I joined that Peace Walker Custom battle. Now I've got an Infinity Bandana blueprint that I can stare at for a few hours before I have the requirements met.

 

[Kagari]

Going to grab that Eva one...

 

[Ridley327]

Otacon's MGS2 art makes him look like such a badass, and then

Spoiler

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Yen]

Oh boy oh boy, I am glad I joined that Peace Walker Custom battle. Now I've got an Infinity Bandana blueprint that I can stare at for a few hours before I have the requirements met.

[Snakevoice]Infinite ammo?[/Snakevoice]

 

[Ridley327]

Peace Walker's bandana is more awesome than usual, since it won't affect your ranking. It makes the 6-skull vehicle battles soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much easier.

 

[SamuraiX-]

Oh, boy! SUPER avatars!

So worth the $2.99!

 

[SLEEPS7ALK3R]

Otacon's MGS2 art makes him look like such a badass, and then

Spoiler

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

HHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG that was so awkward! I was playing when that part came up with family in the room and their reactions were a mix of lolwtf? and iamdisappoint.

 

[canadian crowe]

MGS 2 is way harder than I remember in 2001. On the bright side, the graphics look pretty much current gen.

 

[Ridley327]

HHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OMG that was so awkward! I was playing when that part came up with family in the room and their reactions were a mix of lolwtf? and iamdisappoint.

They saddle Christopher Randolph with the absolute worst dramatic moments in the series. He's gotta be some kind of masochist to withstand that stuff.

 

[nocturnedelight]

how frustrating. I was planning on buying the LE for 360 today off Gamestop.com, hoping to get to my next credit card statement, and they sold out. Yesterday they had over 400 copies available. bleh

 

[Imbarkus]

Its strange. I think its because Konami are pretty much in limbo on how to release it. Raiden's VO said he did the voice acting for it and retailers listed it for the PSP. But in Japan it was released on DVD and they probably dont think there would be a massive market for it on DVD in the US and EU and the PSP is dead outside of Japan. If they do eventually release it, I expect it to be for the 25th Anniversary next year.

Something to hope for in the future, I guess. I didn't expect a PSP release of Bande Dessinée ever, but I would have though a bonus DVD disk with it would have made the perfect fit for this package.

 

[Brandon F]

Peace Walker's bandana is more awesome than usual, since it won't affect your ranking. It makes the 6-skull vehicle battles soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much easier.

Wait, calling in supplies affects ranking?

 

[Sallokin]

They saddle Christopher Randolph with the absolute worst dramatic moments in the series. He's gotta be some kind of masochist to withstand that stuff.

After some of the stuff in 4, I'm inclined to believe he's a saint for not simply telling them to jump off a bridge when they asked him back. This is coming from someone who loves MGS 4 btw.

 

[tsurugi no mai]

MGS avatars on PSN are up

Do you know if they have that ugly green/blue background when you buy it, or is it just the render?

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Ok, so we have:

Invisible ropes in MGS2
No bugs/lice in MGS2
No rain at bridge in MGS3

I'll add that I saw a grid of dots in the water in MGS2 as Raiden comes out of the water at the start of the plant.

Anything else I should keep my (solid)eye out for?

 

[Ridley327]

Wait, calling in supplies affects ranking?

No, it doesn't. What I'm getting at is that the Bandana is pretty fucking broken for ranking purposes.

Supply and strike calls don't affect your rankings, but they do lower the amount of heroism that you gain at the end of the mission. Heroism isn't too important for the purposes of the trophies/achievements, but if you want to get your hands on every item and weapon, as well as recruit the best soldiers, you're going to need to get it high.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Do you know if they have that ugly green/blue background when you buy it, or is it just the render?

The blue is definitely there. I like it, though.

 

[Digital-Hero]

Ok, so we have:

Invisible ropes in MGS2
No bugs/lice in MGS2
No rain at bridge in MGS3

I'll add that I saw a grid of dots in the water in MGS2 as Raiden comes out of the water at the start of the plant.

Anything else I should keep my (solid)eye out for?

What? The lice is there for me, just like this guy.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

What? The lice is there for me, just like this guy.

Same for my brother but apparently some have reported otherwise. I should add the Gorge typo to the list. Shoddy remake it seems.

 

[Digital-Hero]

Same for my brother but apparently some have reported otherwise. I should add the Gorge typo to the list. Shoddy remake it seems.

Strange, I specifically looked when I got to that scene last night and they were there. I wouldn't call it shoddy due to those issues. None of those are game breaking.

 

[MoonsaultSlayer]

Strange, I specifically looked when I got to that scene last night and they were there. I wouldn't call it shoddy due to those issues. None of those are game breaking.

In that same area with raiden, did you notice the dot grid pattern in the water pool?

While not gamebreaking, it does lessen the "hd" aspect of it. Why would I want a crisper, clearer image of flaws?

 

[rvy]

Strange, I specifically looked when I got to that scene last night and they were there. I wouldn't call it shoddy due to those issues. None of those are game breaking.

shod·dy (shd)
adj. shod·di·er, shod·di·est
1. Made of or containing inferior material.
2.
a. Of poor quality or craft.
b. Rundown; shabby.

What would you call it then? It's pretty shoddy to me.

 

[Totobeni]

Okay, WHAT THE FUCK?!

I just got to the bridge scene in MGS3 where

Spoiler

the Cobra unit takes Sokolov and Snake gets thrown off of the bridge

, and there's no fucking rain falling during the "raining blood" scene! The characters have the rain splatter effect on them, but there's no rain coming down around them.

FIX THIS SHIT BLUEPOINT!!!!

many issues all over the place,really bad quality porting job here.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Ok, so we have:

Invisible ropes in MGS2
No bugs/lice in MGS2
No rain at bridge in MGS3

I'll add that I saw a grid of dots in the water in MGS2 as Raiden comes out of the water at the start of the plant.

Don't forget the codec delay and the various bouts of slowdown.

Shoddy, just shoddy.

 

[ScOULaris]

Okay, seriously though... what can we do about this? We leveraged the power of GAF to get Naughty Dog working on a patch. What are the odds we can do it again for this? I know some people might think we are just nitpicking, but all it would take is one patch to fix up these issues and make this the definitive version of these games that it deserves to be.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Eh I'll deal.

MGS2 & especially 3 look gorgeous.

 

[Gouda Jouji]

Okay, seriously though... what can we do about this? We leveraged the power of GAF to get Naughty Dog working on a patch. What are the odds we can do it again for this? I know some people might think we are just nitpicking, but all it would take is one patch to fix up these issues and make this the definitive version of these games that it deserves to be.

Send KP a message: http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/blog_mail.html

It worked with the widescreen issue.

 

[ACB]

Picked this up up a few days ago and started playing MGS2 today. Damn, it looks sooo good.

Sucks to hear about the missing effects though, I'm really hoping for a patch. I'm also REALLY disappointed to read about the omission of the nightmare scene in MGS3. That part blew me away back in 2004.

 

[Blue Submarine No. 6]

You're about the fifth person in the thread to have that done to you

I think we're seeing why they closed the preorders for the LE weeks before the release... I'm thinking the idiots over-sold the LE in preorder; they couldn't short change the B&Ms, 'cause the retail managers would shit, so they just substituted CoD HE for MGSHD LE on the 'extra' on-line preorders and called it a day...

Ok, so we have:

Invisible ropes in MGS2
No bugs/lice in MGS2
No rain at bridge in MGS3

Bugs all over MGS2 on my PS3 Slim...

Spoiler

I just had to spray a shit-load of them away with the coolant to get Emma on the elevator.

 

[Falcs]

Arn't we being a little too nitpicky?
It's already been mentioned before, but I thought that with the missing rain effect it's just because the rain drops are so fine that at a higher resolution they're hardly or not visible. That's the case for me. I noticed the missing rain too but I could see the splatter effect, then I paused the game and bam, there's the rain drops!
I don't know what the deal is with the missing lice though. I guess that's probably worth complaining about. But it's all there for me so... giggidy!! - (US version on AUS PAL PS3).

 

[ScOULaris]

Arn't we being a little too nitpicky?
It's already been mentioned before, but I thought that with the missing rain effect it's just because the rain drops are so fine that at a higher resolution they're hardly or not visible. That's the case for me. I noticed the missing rain too but I could see the splatter effect, then I paused the game and bam, there's the rain drops!
I don't know what the deal is with the missing lice though. I guess that's probably worth complaining about. But it's all there for me so... giggidy!! - (US version on AUS PAL PS3).

Have you gotten to the bridge scene in MGS3 yet? There is no rain whatsoever, and it ruins the scene.

 

[Yamibito]

This thread is funny, I'm really enjoying this collection so far.

 

[Chairhome]

If the missing effects bother you guys that much, I'll buy a ps3 version from one of you

 

[rvy]

If the missing effects bother you guys that much, I'll buy a ps3 version from one of you

Yup, it's the missing rain effects that's getting everyone worked up.

 

[jett]

No rain at the bridge in MGS3? wat

 

[Brandon F]

No, it doesn't. What I'm getting at is that the Bandana is pretty fucking broken for ranking purposes.

Supply and strike calls don't affect your rankings, but they do lower the amount of heroism that you gain at the end of the mission. Heroism isn't too important for the purposes of the trophies/achievements, but if you want to get your hands on every item and weapon, as well as recruit the best soldiers, you're going to need to get it high.

Yea, have been wondering what the Heroism stat does. I've gotten a few insignia's in the game as well which give bonus Heroism(Beat 50 missions without setting off alarms! +500 Heroism). Already at the point where I have capped off some of my teams and can only replace current members with higher ranking ones to keep the levels increasing. Looking for good ways to go about that.

Also really unclear as to what designates points in comraderie. I tend to mostly try and 'sync up' with people in co-op missions, but it doesn't seem to add much to that score(achievement requires 20,000 total). Usually I get around 50-85 points per person in each mission. :/

I mostly just need to keep progressing in the plot. Halfway through Act 3, but I keep just doing quick searches for co-op missions when I play. Much more fun.

 

[SLEEPS7ALK3R]

So, my freakout is justified? Bluepoint am sacrilege? I think so! I hope the Vita versions fare better.

 

[Brandon F]

I still find it funny that people are even bothering with Disc 1.

:whispers:...Peace Walker is the real deal people!

 

[IceCold]

I guess I'll only buy this after a major price drop. I don't get why companies always find a way to mess up when doing thess HD remakes.

 

[Y2Kev]

I think y'all are so far off the farm at this point. The collection is worth it ALONE for 60 FPS MGS3. Add in PW with playable controls and you have something so so worth it.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I think y'all are so far off the farm at this point. The collection is worth it ALONE for 60 FPS MGS3. Add in PW with playable controls and you have something so so worth it.

It's worth it just so I can play MGS3.

 

[Ridley327]

I think y'all are so far off the farm at this point. The collection is worth it ALONE for 60 FPS MGS3. Add in PW with playable controls and you have something so so worth it.

You certainly can't fault the Peace Walker port for being inaccurate; it even slows down in the same spots where the framerate was at its worse on the PSP!

 

[Red Blaster]

I think y'all are so far off the farm at this point. The collection is worth it ALONE for 60 FPS MGS3. Add in PW with playable controls and you have something so so worth it.

Nah dude, they spelled George wrong.

 

[fuzzyreactor]

MGS3 seems to have more missing content than MGS2. MGS2 HD is by far the def version of that game and that all i ever asked for. the other games are just a bonus