BruiserBear
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So MGS2 has a less stable framerate than the PS2 original? How do you let that happen Konami? Seriously.
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Fixed.
Bluepoint didn't work on this. The fault would be placed on Armature.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
PS2 version wasn't v-sync'd.
BruiserBear
Banned
and Konami, who is ultimately overseeing the project, and is the one who approves it ready for release.
How they got MGS3 running smoothly, but not MGS2 I'll never understand.
Superblatt
Member
What was the reason on Peace Walker not being included?
There isn't a Vita version of Peace Walker HD that exists.
gunstarhero
Member
I believe the words out of your mouth were "Oh Hufflepuffs..." as you stormed out of Bestbuy. So embarrassing.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Weird, from all the videos i have seen of people playing on a vita both MGS2 and 3 appeared to be super smooth. Guess it is not something I will notice then. Pixel and frame counters be darned.
BruiserBear
Banned
Even for a moderate "pixel counter" like myself, seeing framerate problems in a YouTube video is very difficult to do.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Huh? To me framerate "problems" is when the game slows down or stutters, pretty sure videos can show if that is present. Especially if video playback is smooth without buffering, unless of course you are watching youtube with half a gig internet service.
Edit: By slowdown I mean the walking in mud type slowdown.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Try tapping the weapon in the lower right to unequip. Don't own it yet, waiting on Amazon, but in the old games I think that worked as well.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Not sure, they didn't include it in the console version either. I guess that game would require an entire rebuild to redo it in HD, and felt it would be confusing or misleading to include in a HD package.
Kojima said it would take to much work to make a good HD version. The textures/assets weren't good enough. I guess they could have just thrown in a non HD version, or just done a simple upscale. I would have liked that but oh well.
yeah, that works, but it isn't ideal. Being able to raise and lower it quickly on PS2 was important for getting dog tags. Being able to hold them up then switch to the front and aim at their face
Edit: figured it out, hit Down on the Dpad.
SpaceBridge
Member
Played some of the VR missions. Never really played them before. Great for quick short bursts on the ride to work.
Technically it should be REALLY EASY if they could use Twin Snakes instead, but just going by the PS1 version he's right, PS1 games don't really lend themselves to upressing (usually) as well as other games. Probably only something like Tobal would work well, it's really simple and running at the same resolution as most PS1 games already, it'd likely only look better at higher resolutions.
But the game did receive a PC port, so that can be dug up to see just how it'd look.
At the least it's probably one of the few HD updates (along with Radiant Silvergun) where you'll want a low res option.
EDIT: Looking at pictures it actually would probably fare better than most PS1 games, but I'd want something like that more for widescreen than to play in high resolution.
I'm mostly buying for the VR missions.
One good thing about Europe getting this late is that you can read detailed impressions from others.
Not that surprised that MGS2 isn't 60fps, PS2 was an insane monster of a machine. I expect similar difficulties with zoe HD. But they should have just locked it at 30fps, that's disappointing
UberTag
Member
Can we at least get confirmation that post-patch play via Transfarring will net you trophies for both the PS3/Vita versions of the game?
I already own the PS3 HD Collection (but have not played MGS2 or MGS3 yet) and would consider picking this up on Vita if it meant I could transfar back and forth and earn concurrent trophies on both platforms (ala Motorstorm RC).
If it will only unlock the trophy on whichever system I happen to be playing on at the time - and won't unlock the equivalent trophy on the other platform following a transfar - then transfarring is effectively rendered meaningless.
Callibretto
Member
unequip and equip the weapon again.
It's fine for people who want to play the game on the go, then take it home and put it on their PS3, though I guess the only reasonable compromise there is to eventually implement shared trophies, or at least negate the value of the second list list of the same game.
Mind, while it's a nice feature to put in I don't really see it being that useful to the MGS games, MGS2 isn't that long and MGS3, while longer, isn't "I want to take this on the go with me" long, it seems like a feature that'd more useful for an RPG, especially something like Disgaea where you could put it on your handheld, do some grinding/party management, then continue at home on the (maybe) big TV. Well, Peace Walker DOES seem like a game where this is genuinely practical, but that's not relevant to the Vita collection.
That doesn't seem to work.
Jawmuncher
Member
So can anyone clarify how the Transfarring works?
Since from what I have been reading you need to transfar to get the trophies (Not like motorstorm where you just sync)
Also I was reading that to transfar you need the update that recently came out for the Collection on PS3. It was also saying that saves before the update would not be able to get trophies automatically.
My question here is
I'm deployed with both my Vita and PS3.
internet for either system isnt going to happen out here.
So if I play on vita first, then transfer to the PS3 at a later date (When I get the update)
Will I be able to get the vita trophies unlocked on PS3?
(The VR missions is not something I want to do twice)
Since from what I have been reading you need to transfar to get the trophies (Not like motorstorm where you just sync)
Also I was reading that to transfar you need the update that recently came out for the Collection on PS3. It was also saying that saves before the update would not be able to get trophies automatically.
My question here is
I'm deployed with both my Vita and PS3.
internet for either system isnt going to happen out here.
So if I play on vita first, then transfer to the PS3 at a later date (When I get the update)
Will I be able to get the vita trophies unlocked on PS3?
(The VR missions is not something I want to do twice)
Jawmuncher
Member
From the IGN Review
"If you're a Trophy whore, you'll be happy to know that the PS3 and Vita Trophy lists are separate but connected; if you earn a Trophy on the Vita and then transfer the save to the PS3, you'll get the Trophy for the second time on a separate Trophy list without doing anything. Important note: if you bought the Peace Walker PSP game and played it on your Vita, the PS3 version isn't set up to transfer from Vita to PS3; it needs a PSP."
Looks like im in the clear since I never started playing the PS3 version.
"If you're a Trophy whore, you'll be happy to know that the PS3 and Vita Trophy lists are separate but connected; if you earn a Trophy on the Vita and then transfer the save to the PS3, you'll get the Trophy for the second time on a separate Trophy list without doing anything. Important note: if you bought the Peace Walker PSP game and played it on your Vita, the PS3 version isn't set up to transfer from Vita to PS3; it needs a PSP."
Looks like im in the clear since I never started playing the PS3 version.
The fact that they didn't have this trophy shit setup when they HD Collection came out on the consoles makes me angry. I don't angry about video games ever, but this really gets to me. Especially considering the whole Peace Walker situation. I worried this would happen, but figured since it was already tied into your PSN account and a modern console (versus the PSP situation) with a Vita port in mind it wouldn't be an issue. I don't really care about getting double the trophies. I was okay getting one set of trophies while sitting in bed on the big screen and with the handheld in other places. Good thing I didn't start MGS2. Doubt i'll go for the platinum again anytime soon for MGS3.
LiquidSolid
Member
Are you kidding? You got off light. You can get the MGS3 platinum in one playthrough on the easiest difficulty. It's one of the easiest platinums I have.
MGS2 is the one that's a fucking nightmare because you've got to finish the game 5 times and do all the boring VR Missions. I can't believe I'm going to have to do all that shit again.
How about you don't ?
In theory yes but (I noticed this while saving on the Vita) you need to be signed into PSN for the save to still be able to generate trophies (there's a warning message about that). If you use the Cloud save system (which doesn't sound like an option for you since you have difficulty getting access to wifi points) your save is unlocked (this is the opposite of how Peace Walker handles transfarring) since it syncs with the server everytime (at least from what I can tell).
The good thing is MGS 2 seperates its save files among: main game, Alternate Missions, VR Missions and Snake Tales so picking and choosing which files are transfarred is super easy.
Put away your weapon and press square while hovering over a body.
Unequip whatever weapon you might have on you and hold Square while you're by a body.
LiquidSolid
Member
I feel obliged to, even though I don't even like MGS2 that much. I've bought it and I'll get everything out of it even if it kills me having to play through it another 5 times and do all those boring as hell VR Missions all over again. I will try to space it out a bit though, maybe one playthrough a week.
I'll never understand this obsession about completion, trophies, or anything else that forces you to do something you hate when playing a distraction that you should love.
PaulSancheezzee
Neo Member
I forgot as well. There are tutorials of the various things you can do if you go into the 'Special' menu
HTHbatmandarkknight
Member
I forgot as well. There are tutorials of the various things you can do if you go into the 'Special' menu
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BigTnaples
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I'll have to pick this up today. Where is the best price?
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Shadow2222
Member
My Newegg order is scheduled to come today. I'm a little peeved at the Transfarring thing, because not only does it seem like once you transfar you can't get Vita trophies on it, but you can't get anymore PS3 trophies on it!
Oh well, I just got Stealth on the Tanker, and I'm not redoing that anytime soon (god speed to those of you redoing all dog tags and/or VR missions), so I guess I'm just going to transfar that save over.
Oh well, I just got Stealth on the Tanker, and I'm not redoing that anytime soon (god speed to those of you redoing all dog tags and/or VR missions), so I guess I'm just going to transfar that save over.
AgentOtaku
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Fantastical!!!!