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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT| The Man Who Sold The World

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nOoblet16

Member
After all these years, I now think MGS2 is a master piece in mindfuckery.
Not what people were expecting after MGS1, but still. Amazing

People rate MGS3 so high because it was closer to MGS1, but I felt it way too linear

I wont even talk about MGS4.

Peace Walker was a fun game for the PSP
MGS V is the extension of that concept to eleven and it's extremely fun.
Well first it wasn't closer to MGS1, it was something on its own and secondly, way too linear...really?
It's more open than any MGS released before and after except for MGS5.
 
grind side ops or do the hard mode missions.
check you don't have any new missions called
the truth
Alright, thank you :)
I'm not going to defend it much, but war criminals systematically do worse things on a daily basis in the real world.

This stuff is covered widely and frequently in prose fiction (in far deeper detail, too). Why can't it be covered in a video-game?
Eh, it's still pretty tasteless and I would say his handling of it is rather poor and exploitative.
 
Gameplay feature:
gun customisation
. This will be the end of me.



I'll spoiler my response because I haven't finished the game myself, and don't actually know the specifics of the content, but the non-spoiler explanation I got regarding this topic is that
apparently a fairly prominent narrative arc is not completely resolved by the end despite obvious expectations that it would be. The bonus disk that comes with the CE has Kojima explore what was essential a final act involving a new area, boss fights, and narrative that was never finished but aimed to bring full closure to the aforementioned arc. The reason for it being cut was likely due to time/budget and the absence of this within the game could be a sore spot upon completion.
Well they technically have two teams til December, wonder if Konami sees the DLC $$$ in that.
 

MMarston

Was getting caught part of your plan?
Well they technically have two teams til December, wonder if Konami sees the DLC $$$ in that.

It'd be fucking ransom if they did that, and what's sad is given the potential nature of that, most of us could end up actually buying it.


Still haven't finished the game though so there is still a possibility that the original version of this ending could be enough for me.
 
It's the equivalent of setting your clock forward with The End. It's still not as enjoyable as that fight, but it's pretty fun depending on what you use.

Got me an S rank tho so I'm not complaining. Yeah, I plan on replaying this mission and trying a bunch of ways. If I can find out if replaying on lethal wont fuck up my storyline I wanna a do it proper sniper vs sniper.
 

SomTervo

Member
Alright, thank you :)

Eh, it's still pretty tasteless and I would say his handling of it is rather poor and exploitative.

I can definitely appreciate that. I felt the way they directed it made it abundantly clear how terrible it was. As such, I wouldn't call it tasteless. It was horrible, and abrasive, but the game wasn't just throwing this grim thing out there without consideration or ramifications. It was highlighting just how barbarous exploitative warfare like this can be. It made you feel that. That's the point. They didn't treat it lightly (which would have been tasteless).
 

Ralemont

not me
I can definitely appreciate that. I felt the way they directed it made it abundantly clear how terrible it was. As such, I wouldn't call it tasteless. It was horrible, and abrasive, but the game wasn't just throwing this grim thing out there without consideration or ramifications. It was highlighting just how barbarous exploitative warfare like this can be. It made you feel that. That's the point. They didn't treat it lightly (which would have been tasteless).

Yeah I don't see what's exploitative about it at all. It's not like the game came with
VAGINA BOMBS!
advertised on the front cover. It's a disturbing action by a disturbing character.
 

SomTervo

Member
How does saving work in this? Can I quit the game mid mission and just resume from where I was?

Be careful. It only saves when you get a yellow spinning circle in the top right. It saves whenever you:

> reach a physical checkpoint (enter/leave a base zone)
> complete a mission
> auto-shuffle your staff (I think messing with them prompts a save)
> send combat unit on a deployment

If you quit the game, you will physically be knocked back to the last actual checkpoint. The last place you stood when you entered/left an area.

If you quit the game after an hour of progress after your last checkpoint, and you don't prompt a save before this, you will lose everything you've done. Every Fulton. Every bit of weapon/item development.

However, if you prompt a save by messing with Mother Base or Combat Unit before you quit, you will still physically go back to your checkpoint when you return, but you will keep your Fultons/developments.

Yeah I don't see what's exploitative about it at all. It's not like the game came with
VAGINA BOMBS!
advertised on the front cover. It's a disturbing action by a disturbing character.

Exactly. It was a disturbing, graphic moment. There was no levity about that scene. Something is tasteless when it's a joke or a lighthearted treatment of something serious. That wasn't the case here.

You might want to spoiler-tag
'VAGINA BOMBS!'
:p

A lot of people didn't play GZ
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Gameplay feature:
gun customization
. This will be the end of me.

Speaking of said gameplay feature (I dunno if this is a spoiler or not but whatever you spoiled yours so I will as well)
why can't I put a silencer on my rubber bullet UN rifle? I have the lethal version with a silencer so I assumed that I could just fit tat one on there but I guess not. It seems to be finicky as to what you can actually customize. Like for example my riot smg had the ability to use extended mags I hadn't even unlocked for other guns but with the rubber bullet rifle it just has no customization's available besides changing the stock
 

nOoblet16

Member
It's the equivalent of setting your clock forward with The End. It's still not as enjoyable as that fight, but it's pretty fun depending on what you use.

The equivalent to that would be shooting End when you see him before.

Man this is why MGS3 was so good, there were so many ways to defeat the End on it's own, shoot his parrot or hold him up etc. Or the prison escape where you had so many ways to even exit the cell and then escape.

These choices remained everywhere else in the game with everything you do, it was so branched like choices branched off to another set of choices. This is lacking in MGS5, sure you have the choice of going wherever and go stealth, panther (lethal but silent) or commando but not really a lot apart from that.
 

Rumble19

Member
Be careful. It only saves when you get a yellow spinning circle in the top left. It saves whenever you:

> reach a physical checkpoint (enter/leave a base zone)
> complete a mission
> auto-shuffle your staff (I think messing with them prompts a save)
> send combat unit on a deployment

If you quit the game, you will physically be knocked back to the last actual checkpoint. The last place you stood when you entered/left an area.

If you quit the game after an hour of progress after your last checkpoint, you will lose everything you've done. Every Fulton. Every bit of weapon/item development.

However, if you prompt a save by messing with Mother Base or Combat Unit, you will still physically go back to your checkpoint, but you will keep your Fultons/developments.

Thank you! I noticed the save circle thing but I wasn't sure about where I would continue from.
 

Geg

Member
Yeah I'd also like some clarification if (Mission 11 spoilers)
Taking down Quiet lethally in that boss fight actually kills her. I also stumbled across it (though I was looking for her thinking she'd be at the power plant because some Russian guards were talking about her) but I aborted the mission afterwards because I wanted to do the main story missions I'd skipped over first
.
 
Yeah I'd also like some clarification if (Mission 11 spoilers)
Taking down Quiet lethally in that boss fight actually kills her. I also stumbled across it (though I was looking for her thinking she'd be at the power plant because some Russian guards were talking about her) but I aborted the mission afterwards because I wanted to do the main story missions I'd skipped over first
.

it does not kill her
 

Bucca

Fools are always so certain of themselves, but wiser men so full of doubts.
Yeah I'd also like some clarification if (Mission 11 spoilers)
Taking down Quiet lethally in that boss fight actually kills her. I also stumbled across it (though I was looking for her thinking she'd be at the power plant because some Russian guards were talking about her) but I aborted the mission afterwards because I wanted to do the main story missions I'd skipped over first
.

It doesn't.
Using lethal weapons on her won't affect her being able to join you.
 

Anth0ny

Member
About Quiet.

I'm on mission
30 and I still don't have her at my base. Can I go the entire game without unlocking her? lol
 

Ralemont

not me
You might want to spoiler-tag
'VAGINA BOMBS!'
:p

A lot of people didn't play GZ

I'll tag it because you asked, but we should really not have to tag previous game spoilers. It is expected of the player to know what happened before the med bay scene, hence the mindfuckery of the (apparent) counterfactual of it all.
 
Just noticed how if you have the sexy lady on your box, heavily armored soldiers won't react to it however if you have the anime girl on it instead they will XD
 

Falifax

Member
Stuck on Side Ops 63 -
Unlucky Dog 03

Questioned every guard, secured the airfield, searched every nook and cranny that I could and I still cannot find both the staff member and prisoner. I'm afraid that this mission might be bugged.
 

Goreomedy

Console Market Analyst
Bah, the checkpoint system punishes you for killing friendly soldiers?

Completed a Target Practice exercise, and then went around my Mother Base pod collecting diamonds. An NPC soldier got in my way, so I CQC'd him.... right over a railing and into the water below. Got a game over screen, and the checkpoint put me back before the Side Op I had just finished. Have to do that and all the diamond collecting again? Fuck your karma system, Hideo!
 
I can definitely appreciate that. I felt the way they directed it made it abundantly clear how terrible it was. As such, I wouldn't call it tasteless. It was horrible, and abrasive, but the game wasn't just throwing this grim thing out there without consideration or ramifications. It was highlighting just how barbarous exploitative warfare like this can be. It made you feel that. That's the point. They didn't treat it lightly (which would have been tasteless).
Yeah I don't see what's exploitative about it at all. It's not like the game came with
VAGINA BOMBS!
advertised on the front cover. It's a disturbing action by a disturbing character.
It's done solely for shock value. It's like he watched MI3 and was trying to figure out how he could out-do the hidden-bomb-in-head. Especially when you take into consideration the fact that Paz was 17 (and portrayed very sexually despite that), having a
bomb in her vagina
was just unnecessary and cheap, hence why I feel it's exploitative. Sexual violence is on a whole other level to the typical action movie violence and it wasn't handled maturely, shown by the fact that it was used for cheap thrills.
 

VE3TRO

Formerly Gizmowned
Africa mission -
How to you get away from the Skulls after stealing the transport truck? I've tried on horse back but they go everywhere I do.
 

Alienous

Member
Stuck on Side Ops 63 -
Unlucky Dog 03

Questioned every guard, secured the airfield, searched every nook and cranny that I could and I still cannot find both the staff member and prisoner. I'm afraid that this mission might be bugged.

D-Dog.
 

KarmaCow

Member
Bah, the checkpoint system punishes you for killing friendly soldiers?

Completed a Target Practice exercise, and then went around my Mother Base pod collecting diamonds. An NPC soldier got in my way, so I CQC'd him.... right over a railing and into the water below. Got a game over screen, and the checkpoint put me back before the Side Op I had just finished. Have to do that and all the diamond collecting again? Fuck your karma system, Hideo!

Bad news because I think it's even worse than that. Those diamonds are probably just gone unless Mother Base is different from the rest of the game.
 

nbnt

is responsible for the well-being of this island.
ALL 157 SIDE OPS COMPLETED

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That was tedious as hell. Now, to S those main missions..
 
About Quiet.

I'm on mission
30 and I still don't have her at my base. Can I go the entire game without unlocking her? lol

How is that even possible? She's mission 11 which is on the way to mission 12 which has to be done to progress. The only thing I can think of is you ignored her when she did show up? Either way you're very far past the point where you typically acquire her.
 

raven777

Member
Done all the objective and all I needed to do was leave the hotzone -> gets killed in the process of escaping from the hotzone -> checkpoint is from the beginning of the mission.
 

Double D

Member
Feel like I'm way behind most of you guys. I've played a few hours every night since launch and just finished mission 5 last night. I guess I just take way too long to complete missions.

Also I kind of get caught up at the end of a session screwing around on mother base and punching dudes and throwing empty magazines at their heads.
 

daveo42

Banned
Cool, thanks for the answers

The medical platform unlocks after episode 7, I just did it last night.

Awesome. I'll be tackling that tonight then. There's already a wandering mission queued up in side ops too. Gonna be a good night.
 

Anth0ny

Member
How is that even possible? She's mission 11 which is on the way to mission 12 which has to be done to progress. The only thing I can think of is you ignored her when she did show up? Either way you're very far past the point where you typically acquire her.

yeah ran right passed her lol

whooooooooooooooooops
 
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