Metroid Prime 2 Echoes 1UP review - 8.5
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paul777 said:
How about adding the ability to teleport from one save point to another (as long as you have visited it before)? That way you can minimize the backtracking without removing it. I enjoyed Metroid Prime, but backtracking in 1st person is a lot slower and more boring than in the 2d games.
Kuramu
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i love backtracking... it's the reason i remember the older Metroids so well... they feel like home to me now. Metroid without backtracking is just Megaman.
As for Dual analog... yeah, i did feel constrained because i like to look around while i walk. There are awkward ways around it, because you can lock your angle and jump or move around while looking that way, but it's not as pleasant. however, considering the need to have access to all the thumb buttons instantly, i'm not sure there's a way around it
As for Dual analog... yeah, i did feel constrained because i like to look around while i walk. There are awkward ways around it, because you can lock your angle and jump or move around while looking that way, but it's not as pleasant. however, considering the need to have access to all the thumb buttons instantly, i'm not sure there's a way around it
Screenboy said:^The problem is that Retro have actually done the unimaginable by making a decent game out of a FPS game using the Metroid franchise.
Everyone wanted Retro to fail and even I had my doubts, but what they've done is create an amazing game with the Metroid franchise.
People can't accept it, won't accept it and stop other from doing so.
Nintendo in genral make good games, but it wasn't Nintendo that created this, it was Retro.
And next week, it will be mine.
-SB
Yeah, i know what your talking about. Remember when the first prime came out and almost every reviewer gave it substandard scores.
They just couldn't accept it and tried to stop others from doing so... wait, what?
After reading this thread, I have come to the following 4 conclusions:
Conclusion the First: Nintendo fans are mammals.
Conclusion the Second: Nintendo fans whine ALL THE TIME.
Conclusion the Third: The purpose of a Nintendo fan is to flip out and scream at people over the internet when real or imagined(mostly imagined) slights are "inflicted" upon their precious company.
Conclusion the Fourth: I won't be buying Metroid Prime 2. Mostly because I sold my gamecube today to finance some new games.
Conclusion the First: Nintendo fans are mammals.
Conclusion the Second: Nintendo fans whine ALL THE TIME.
Conclusion the Third: The purpose of a Nintendo fan is to flip out and scream at people over the internet when real or imagined(mostly imagined) slights are "inflicted" upon their precious company.
Conclusion the Fourth: I won't be buying Metroid Prime 2. Mostly because I sold my gamecube today to finance some new games.
Raoul Duke said:
This happens with fans of everything.
GameEurope or Eurogamer gave Halo 2 an 8. DEATH THREATS POURED IN! IT SCREWED UP TEH GAMERANKINGS TOTALS! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN OCARINA OF TIME!!>!
8.5 seems like a reasonable score for the game. Probably a bit too high for my tastes, if it doesn't change much from the original. Same goes to other games out there if they don't stray too far from the original *stares in Halo 2's and UYA's general directions*
The only game I'm really hyped for this year is KOTOR II. That's pretty much the last game. I feel can become my GOTY.
SantaCruZer said:
Er.. not really. Nintendo fans are the most vocal group. Second, I'd say would be the Sega fanboys out there. Sega fanboys have long since hid in the background, mostly behind the Xbox since it's actually doing well (comparative to previous Sega efforts), and they can "pick on" another company/group of people who were once in their position. It's as if they feel they're paying everyone back for all the pain they caused when Sega was still "alive."
Nintendo fans are by far the worst. Xbox fanboys are rapidly catching up, it must be noted.
Honestly, has it ever occurred to you that maybe you'd be better off just enjoying each great game that came along and not giving a shit which system, developer or company was involved? Enjoy the finished product or don't, but don't be a fucking cheerleader for a videogame company. That's insane to me.
Honestly, has it ever occurred to you that maybe you'd be better off just enjoying each great game that came along and not giving a shit which system, developer or company was involved? Enjoy the finished product or don't, but don't be a fucking cheerleader for a videogame company. That's insane to me.
soundwave05
Member
Raoul Duke said:
Post of the year.
Raoul Duke said:
I can't understand that, but I can understand people not wanting certain franchises/game series to die. I think a lot of Nintendo fans are looking at what happened to Sega, and feel that it would be a far worse thing to go third party than to limp along for how many more generations and hopefully experience the last and finest games of those series.
If Iwata makes good on his threat/promise to just go all out ala DBZ and spend the war chest to stay afloat/get back in instead of going third party, then great. But if they go third-party, Nintendo will still be extremely profit-minded, and will have to let many people go as their main source of income will be gone. This means truly half-assed Mario and Zelda games. I'm not talking Wind Waker or Mario Sunshine types, I'm talking Vexx or Spyro (now).
SantaC
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AniHawk said:
exactly, That's what I am afraid. I was a HUGE Sega fan when I was a kid, I loved the Master System, I loved the Genesis, I loved Wonderboy etc. But damn SEGA is not what I remember them to be...I have a feeling that Nintendo is walking slowly the same path.
Their Mario and Zelda games have taken a small dive latley, and we don't need them to get worse. Nintendo needs to succed with their new Zelda.
I don't think Sega's turn to third-party was its downfall. Sega's games started sucking overall WAY before that happened. For all the hoopla and mindless raving about Sega's Dreamcast games, they sure did suck. Sure they were "quirky" or maybe even "innovative" to some small degree, but they weren't fun. Sega's sucky games on Dreamcast was just as much a part of the console's failure as any other component.
sega's DC games werent sucky. they just ignored solid single player action/adventures ala RE, DMC etc. i mean where was shinobi, vectorman, another deep fear styled game? consoles need these to keep ppl interested. just arcade ports wont do.
most were arcade ports, which were decent to excellent, depending on your tastes.
one f*cking rpg (sigh), which was godly. ONE!!!
and then there were the single player quirky stuff like JGR, which were again decent to excellent, depending on your tastes.
but they tried, it was a lack of 3rd party stuff that killed it ultimately.
most were arcade ports, which were decent to excellent, depending on your tastes.
one f*cking rpg (sigh), which was godly. ONE!!!
and then there were the single player quirky stuff like JGR, which were again decent to excellent, depending on your tastes.
but they tried, it was a lack of 3rd party stuff that killed it ultimately.
pffffft.AniHawk said:
they tried with one game, and it sold well. RE:CV.
rest was a bunch of arcade ports of 2D fighters, which i loved, but those aint gonna sell systems. ppl were already lining up to buy DMC and Onimusha.
kinda ironic that DMC2 sucked and Onimusha lost its huge initial sales numbers.
this gen has been one puzzlement after another. never in my life i'd have thought GTA to be the biggest gaming franchise...hell i played GTA when it was a PC exlusive and didnt think much of it!!
Duck of Death
Member
OMG he says it's a good game, but he secretly doesn't and hates NINTENDO! Time to analyze the review to the smallest grammatical mistake to retroactively justify my love for the perfect game I haven't even played yet!
Come on people, he says it's a good game. If you liked Metroid Prime, you'll probably like this one.
zombie revenge? floigan brothers? fighting vipers 2? crazy taxi 2? both of those godzilla games? and so on. there were plenty of shitty sega games on dreamcast. i maintain that their post-dreamcast output has been much better than their dreamcast output. though neither period holds up to their saturn/model 2/model 3 pomp.
I think it was a well written review. I believe he was in a camp that I do not belong too. Some of things he mentions here as flaws or hints at being flaws were in the first game, and I didn't consider them to be flaws (controls, backtracking, artifacts), etc. And he's obviously not pleased that these "flaws" weren't "corrected." But, he didn't butcher the game for still having these, uh, features.
A well written review from someone who probably greatly enjoyed Metroid Prime, but probably wasn't a gung-ho rabid addict like some of us are! ;p
A well written review from someone who probably greatly enjoyed Metroid Prime, but probably wasn't a gung-ho rabid addict like some of us are! ;p
See, I think you're missing my point.SantaCruZer said:
When I think back about older games, that's just what I think about: the games. You're apparently held up about what system they were on. I loved Phantasy Star, not the Master System and Genny. I loved Super Mario 3, not the NES. And so on.
I think you would all be a lot better off if you would just let go of your tribal system associations and enjoy the games that come out on the systems. There's certainly enough good content coming out these days.
Well, that's it for me in this thread. I rarely post in the gaming forum these days, and to be brutally honest threads like this are a large part of the reason why.
Data East.drohne said:
Visual Concepts, owned by Sega but then again not really the same as if it came from Sega of Japan.
OK, just another average Sega fighter but not terrible. Not released in the U.S. anyhow.
Hey, it wasn't that bad.
Not Sega, those were developed by General Entertainment.
That list don't qualify as plenty...
