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[SpokkX]

I think they do. I think they know prefectly.

And they are baiting you all. There's a reason they did this. They know their public and they are playing everyone like a fiddle. The reaction this caracter causes its intentional. I'm so curious to know wheres It leads.

My prediction is that, as you meet other troopers you start piercing out nobody knows Who this McKencie Guy is. All other troopers know each other but nobody knows him. Then its finally revealed that he's Sylux secret identity and ruins the scape from Viewros plan by taking all the elements required for It to work for himself or soe things like that.

Tanabe and Retro are masters at making Metroid. They are gonna give It to you and its gonna be great.

I hope this happens

Expect a disney story though

 

[LordOcidax]

I think they do. I think they know prefectly.

And they are baiting you all. There's a reason they did this. They know their public and they are playing everyone like a fiddle. The reaction this caracter causes its intentional. I'm so curious to know wheres It leads.

My prediction is that, as you meet other troopers you start piercing out nobody knows Who this McKencie Guy is. All other troopers know each other but nobody knows him. Then its finally revealed that he's Sylux secret identity and ruins the scape from Viewros plan by taking all the elements required for It to work for himself or soe things like that.

Tanabe and Retro are masters at making Metroid. They are gonna give It to you and its gonna be great.

Your prediction is going to fail by just watching the overview video… A better one is that some of the troops are going to be infected.

 

[Oberstein]

Myles McKenzie is the key to all of this...

He's going to repeat jokes constantly and it will all make sense from beginning to end... it's like poetry, it rhymes.

 

[Moses85]

Some of you never learn…

From your lips to God's ears.

 

[Juja]

I hope the McLovin guy dies an early and brutal death. I'm not opposed the NPCs at all. The black dude looks pretty cool and gives RE2 Marvin Branagh vibes, so hopefully the first guy doesn't ruin it for everyone else.

I would really love for the game to sell the 4 million + that the hashtag is about. I liked Dread well enough, but I don't want them to think that's the direction they should take the series based on sales. It was cool, but so... Not well thought out. It was super linear, to the point when I actually tried to backtrack of my own freewill and found myself locked out of previous areas. Then you have copy and paste bosses and such. It's overall a good enough game, but it's definitely in the Fusion And Other M territory of quality.

Honestly, I would be kinda excited to play Other M HD over Dread. But yeah, I hope Prime 4 is at least good enough, even if the NPCs drag it down to worst of the Prime series level. I saw somebody on here claim the games declined in quality, but I hugely disagree. Prime 2 is the best game in the Prime series, and it's second only to Super Metroid in the overall series. I also like 3 more than 1. Prime Remastered was fantastic, but it reminded me of how basic Prime 1 was. That's what worries me most about Prime 4. It seems like they're going with the basic elemental biomes like Prime 1, whereas Prime 2 and 3 gave us awesome creative areas like Sanctuary Fortress (best) and Sky Town.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Nonsense. If Microsoft ported Halo 4 to take advantage of the Ally X in the same way Retro did between the Switch and the Switch 2, they could get it running at 4k/120. That's the whole point of the Xbox Certified Games program. You can't just take general compatibility settings and expect that they deliver hardware specialized performance.

That's not how PC works

Devs do not go back to work for resolution or FPS if these were already unlocked, nor optimize for new hardware because they have new features. In fact that kind of generation game runs as fast as can be, it's pretty much only rasterization.

 

[MagnesD3]

We have to be a little realistic here. Nintendo have developed a game and invested a lot of money, even more when you consider they had to totally re start with a new development studio. On a franchise that has sold pretty niche sales numbers at best. The biggest selling title in the series on the cube only sold around 2.84 million copies, and that was when Nintendo were still in the core console market. Corruption on the Wii only sold 1.4 million copies from a pretty decent userbase. And as I have previously stated the recent remaster has sold around 1.09 million units, on a massively popular console.

Nintendo need a game with a lot more wider appeal, which is why the Switch brand has been so successful. This is why they are changing things a little. Yes it might not sit well with everybody, but I am pretty sure will get them a game that is played by more people. And when people on YouTube and on niche forums keep shouting about what the fans really want... Who are they actually talking about?.... As in the past the franchise has never set the world alight sales wise.

I am a massive fan of the series and have loved and played all the games, but after playing the recent remaster for a short while gave up on it very quickly. Nostalgia is a very powerful drug. I just feel the franchise needs a little shake up.... And this seems to be striking the right balance. But we will have to wait an see.

Metroid does need a shake up but it needs to be an intelligent and faithful one.

This NPC is the most brain rot basic corpo whose children love marvel films idiot choice ever.

You know what you do to shake things up, make it where you can be in 3rd or 1st person at anytime put the setting in a series of smaller open areas mixed with traditional linear areas. Reinvent the reward system from being mostly just missiles to more exciting options and dont reuse older ability rewards from previous games without significant change. Evolve the suits, evolve the level design, evolve the puzzle design, evolve the backtracking but never kill the atmosphere or kill the sense of isolation.

The atmosphere of loneliness in discovering an unknown world is Metroid.

 

[Astray]

After watching a a few scenes with that Myles guy, I see this as another attempt at Retro and Nintendo trying to make the series more cinematic. Simply to draw in more of an audience. I don't blame them and I've been all for it since Prime 3.

It's probably gonna end up being their way of making the series more "adaptation-ready".

You can't make a 2hr film out of Samus scanning things and shooting them by herself, and Nintendo is clearly all-in on films as a way of brand expansion.

 

[Mozza]

Metroid dors need a shake up but it needs to be an intelligent one. This is the most brain rot basic corpo whose children love marvel films idiot choice ever. You know what you do to shake things up, make it where you can be in 3rd or 1st person at anytime put the setting in a series of smaller open areas mixed with trafitional linear areas. Reinvent the reward system from being mostly just missiles to more exciting options. Evolve the suits, evolve the level design, evolve the puzzle design, evolve the backtracking but never kill the atmosphere or kill the sense of isolation.

The atmosphere of lonliness in discovering an unknown world is Metroid.

Agree with you on many points. Unfortunately the old formula just is not lucrative enough. So I am hoping this strikes the right balance. Thus far I have very few issues, and am very hyped for this.

 

[Honey Bunny]

The gameplay looks very similar to the old games, I'll be impressed if they can get high scores

 

[Montauk]

I think they do. I think they know prefectly.

And they are baiting you all. There's a reason they did this. They know their public and they are playing everyone like a fiddle. The reaction this caracter causes its intentional. I'm so curious to know wheres It leads.

My prediction is that, as you meet other troopers you start piercing out nobody knows Who this McKencie Guy is. All other troopers know each other but nobody knows him. Then its finally revealed that he's Sylux secret identity and ruins the scape from Viewros plan by taking all the elements required for It to work for himself or soe things like that.

Tanabe and Retro are masters at making Metroid. They are gonna give It to you and its gonna be great.

In the last trailer I'm pretty sure you see him together in one shot with the other soldiers.

 

[SpokkX]

It's probably gonna end up being their way of making the series more "adaptation-ready".

You can't make a 2hr film out of Samus scanning things and shooting them by herself, and Nintendo is clearly all-in on films as a way of brand expansion.

Good point actually

Metroid in the original sense is hard to do in other media

… but that was the POINT

 

[MagnesD3]

Good point actually

Metroid in the original sense is hard to do in other media

… but that was the POINT

They want easy money like the mario movie, a 0 substance film that audiences can waste their money on because it reminds them of better days or appeals to kids and they can forget about an hour after the movie. Thats where nintendo is going im afraid. This is fine for a Mario movie because Mario's substance is just about the gameplay and the places/music you experience that gameplay, nothing deeper than that.

A good Metroid film would have to be a sci fi bounty hunter film with a lot of artistic camera work and set design. You basically would have to incorporate environmental storytelling in everything. There would be a lot of silent moments of shots and vistas. Something Marvel and empty just wont cut it.

 

[LordOcidax]

The gameplay looks very similar to the old games, be impressed if they can get high scores

That's what makes the Prime series a master piece… Also Metroid Prime Remastered got a 94 just with a visual upgrade, nothing more.

 

[Variahunter]

I think they do. I think they know prefectly.

And they are baiting you all. There's a reason they did this. They know their public and they are playing everyone like a fiddle. The reaction this caracter causes its intentional. I'm so curious to know wheres It leads.

My prediction is that, as you meet other troopers you start piercing out nobody knows Who this McKencie Guy is. All other troopers know each other but nobody knows him. Then its finally revealed that he's Sylux secret identity and ruins the scape from Viewros plan by taking all the elements required for It to work for himself or soe things like that.

Tanabe and Retro are masters at making Metroid. They are gonna give It to you and its gonna be great.

What you're saying is hard copium.

There is a video on this page where we can see the four troopers united and saying « so we are finally going to go back home ». With Mc Kenzie. This suggest it's at least in the middle of the game or towards the end.

And I'd even say that Mc Kenzie will be the one piloting the mech, as he's the one repairing it.

Also Mc Kenzie talks to himself before encountering Samus, saying idiot things, so what you're saying makes no sense.

 

[ADiTAR]

Maybe we'll get a TLOU style sex scene between Samus and McPretty.

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

I am starting to wonder if Metroid should just become an rpg or "Space Zelda".

If that would help the IP grow.

 

[Variahunter]

That's what makes the Prime series a master piece… Also Metroid Prime Remastered got a 94 just with a visual upgrade, nothing more.

Let's be honest. I love the first one, but reviewers had the game in the same time than players, they saw the graphical upgrade, played it a bit and called it a day.

They knew this was one of the best reviewed game of all time in 2002, and didn't want the backlash of fans. So easy review is to give a 9 or 10 because nothing had changed aside from graphics. Most of them probably didn't even get the Varia suit lol.

It's like remaking Zelda OoT, if it's just a graphical upgrade, every reviewer will fear fans backlash if they say the game has aged or is not up to nowadays standards, and will give it 9 or 10. Even if I think the game is still great.

 

[LordOcidax]

Let's be honest. I love the first one, but reviewers had the game in the same time than players, they saw the graphical upgrade, played it a bit and called it a day.

They knew this was one of the best reviewed game of all time in 2002, and didn't want the backlash of fans. So easy review is to give a 9 or 10 because nothing had changed aside from graphics. Most of them probably didn't even get the Varia suit lol.

It's like remaking Zelda OoT, if it's just a graphical upgrade, every reviewer will fear fans backlash if they say the game has aged or is not up to nowadays standards, and will give it 9 or 10. Even if I think the game is still great.

Thats your argument? Really… BTW… Why the Galaxy collection didn't receive a 97 in the MC? By your logic that should be the score.

 

[KU_]

It's probably gonna end up being their way of making the series more "adaptation-ready".

You can't make a 2hr film out of Samus scanning things and shooting them by herself, and Nintendo is clearly all-in on films as a way of brand expansion.

That's what I thought when watching the gameplay as well. Seems as if they're attempting to appeal to a broader audience. I have no issues with it personally.

 

[LordOcidax]

That's what I thought when watching the gameplay as well. Seems as if they're attempting to appeal to a broader audience. I have no issues with it personally.

Looks like the tutorial part was made specifically for the God of War creator .

 

[Variahunter]

Thats your argument? Really… BTW… Why the Galaxy collection didn't receive a 97 in the MC? By your logic that should be the score.

Because there was almost zero work (aside from some textures changes) for the overpriced Galaxy collection ? Don't you think it has to be taken into account, that for the same price than Metroid Prime remastered, you just get Galaxy 1 with just some minor texture work ? Duh.

Plus, do those 2 games separately have the same score ? No. So impossible to give a collection the same score.

It's like you don't even think about that silly comparison you're making beforehand.

 

[daclynk]

If you HAD ANY WORRIES just watch this video

This might be the BEST looking Switch 1 game.

 

[fallingdove]

That's not how PC works

Devs do not go back to work for resolution or FPS if these were already unlocked, nor optimize for new hardware because they have new features. In fact that kind of generation game runs as fast as can be, it's pretty much only rasterization.

Huh? Of course a dev isn't going to forever work on a title like MCC to constantly try and wring out additional pixels or frames per second on the latest devices. I never suggested they would. But based on what Halo 4 and MP4 are doing on screen, I can't see how a ground up build of Halo 4 for a device like the Ally X wouldn't net the same results we are seeing with MP4 on the Switch 2.

 

[Mister Wolf]

If you HAD ANY WORRIES just watch this video

This might be the BEST looking Switch 1 game.

Too many spoilers.

 

[daclynk]

Too many spoilers.

But We NEED more Eyes to see to CHANGE MINDS.

#PRIME4OVER4MILLION

 

[Mister Wolf]

But We NEED more Eyes to see to CHANGE MINDS.

#PRIME4OVER4MILLION

Their minds won't change. At its core they want isolation in Metroid. There is a contingent of us older Metroid fans that never cared about that in the first place. I remember this same conversation playing out with Prime 3. Hopefully all the new youth gamers who didnt even grow up with the Prime games like this more chracter focused storytelling. This is the route Retro clearly wanted to go after Prime 3.

 

[Doomtrain]

Unfortunately the old formula just is not lucrative enough.

I agree that Nintendo may feel that way, but I'd argue they should look at Silksong or look back at what happened when Souls got popular. There is absolutely an audience for darker, more complex material, and I find it strange that publishers keep forgetting that.

 

[base_two]

The gameplay looks very similar to the old games, I'll be impressed if they can get high scores

Some of the top rated games of the year was a sequel that had largely the same gameplay (Hades II and Silksong).

 

[Chan]

I agree that Nintendo may feel that way, but I'd argue they should look at Silksong or look back at what happened when Souls got popular. There is absolutely an audience for darker, more complex material, and I find it strange that publishers keep forgetting that.

Apart from that, not every single franchise needs to be a multi-million blockbuster success. Prestige is almost equally important for companies/IP owners. It's perfectly fine to "just" recoup your money and earn something on top of that. You will earn people's respect. Metroid never had the success of something like animal crossing, but it's mindshare and significance can't be overstated.

 

[Sticks]

Looks like the tutorial part was made specifically for the God of War creator .

 

[Doomtrain]

Apart from that, not every single franchise needs to be a multi-million blockbuster success. Prestige is almost equally important for companies/IP owners. It's perfectly fine to "just" recoup your money and earn something on top of that. You will earn people's respect. Metroid never had the success of something like animal crossing, but it's mindshare and significance can't be overstated.

It feels a little like what Square is doing with Final Fantasy these days, where they seem vaguely ashamed of the RPG roots of the series and they keep trying to turn it into literally anything else, making comments about how only action games sell, etc. -- and then games like Expedition 33 and Baldur's Gate 3 blow them out of the water. Not everything needs to be sanitized down to the lowest common denominator.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

Hopefully the federation soldiers really are just in the opening section. I don't want another Other M situation to cause the series to be put on ice again.

 

[Varteras]

This looked a lot better than previous showings. I'm not sold but it's an improvement.

 

[Generic]

It feels a little like what Square is doing with Final Fantasy these days, where they seem vaguely ashamed of the RPG roots of the series and they keep trying to turn it into literally anything else, making comments about how only action games sell, etc. -- and then games like Expedition 33 and Baldur's Gate 3 blow them out of the water. Not everything needs to be sanitized down to the lowest common denominator.

Final Fantasy 16 started development in 2016, back then the big boys were Fallout 4 and Witcher 3, Square had a reason to believe that only action sells. The market is always changing of course.

 

[amigastar]

I wonder if this Bike Section in Metroid Prime 4 is what the Dragon sections are for Doom The Dark Ages.

 

[Montauk]

That's what makes the Prime series a master piece… Also Metroid Prime Remastered got a 94 just with a visual upgrade, nothing more.

We should expect more. I DO expect more.

 

[Astray]

That's what I thought when watching the gameplay as well. Seems as if they're attempting to appeal to a broader audience. I have no issues with it personally.

Most normal people won't. Only the crowd that hates on other games for things like that is tying themselves up in knots.

My bigger doubt is the desert bike areas, not sure what they're aiming for there.

 

[daclynk]

2D Metroid is the place for isolation and horror for Metroid fans now.

The tonality of 3D Metroid should be different. It's not like people ran out in droves and purchased Prime Remastered.

Retro is opening up with Prime 4 and trying to expand the franchise in many senses of the word.

 

[Montauk]

Most normal people won't. Only the crowd that hates on other games for things like that is tying themselves up in knots.

My bigger doubt is the desert bike areas, not sure what they're aiming for there.

Ah, right, so the people who don't share your views aren't normal. Very convenient.

 

[Astray]

Ah, right, so the people who don't share your views aren't normal. Very convenient.

I mean I genuinely don't see the issue here, and at the same time I'm seeing everyone lose their shit over it.

How is losing your shit over video games normal?

 

[DragoonKain]

 

[Montauk]

I mean I genuinely don't see the issue here, and at the same time I'm seeing everyone lose their shit over it.

Are you new to the concept of opinions?

 

[Montauk]

Yeah, watched this earlier. Another preview that doesn't like the NPC companion stuff and the writing for it.

Sensing a theme here amongst the previews.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Hopefully the federation soldiers really are just in the opening section. I don't want another Other M situation to cause the series to be put on ice again.

Every area she will be meeting one of these soldiers and gaining new abilities in her time interacting with them. If anything, its more involved than Other M.

 

[Astray]

Are you new to the concept of opinions?

I am new to the concept of people losing their shit over video games, and now apparently over forum posts too.

Learn something new everyday.

 

[Doomtrain]

I mean I genuinely don't see the issue here, and at the same time I'm seeing everyone lose their shit over it.

How is losing your shit over video games normal?

Conflating people expressing opinions over a video game with them "losing their shit" is incredibly loaded.

 

[Montauk]

I am new to the concept of people losing their shit over video games, and now apparently over forum posts too.

Learn something new everyday.

What are you defining as losing one's shit over this? Can you point us to some posts?

I've agreed along with others that I don't like this idea of having NPC companions, the apparent amount of that in this, nor the writing for it.

Have I lost my shit? Who has? Where?

 

[Astray]

Conflating people expressing opinions over a video game with them "losing their shit" is incredibly loaded.

I mean did you see how bad the Metroid reddit sub meltdown is? The funniest part is they will all end up buying it anyways.

 

[Montauk]

My bigger doubt is the desert bike areas, not sure what they're aiming for there.

Are you losing your shit here? Are you abnormal? Or is it just other people than you expressing their opinions that are abnormal?

Just curious. Perhaps you can educate us so we can all look for signs of not being normal like you.