I might need a hint here: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAADAAADV44eQac7VQ
And I'm still jealous of that awesome European steelbook.
And I'm still jealous of that awesome European steelbook.
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Metroid: Samus Returns |OT| What's past is prologue.
- Thread starter TheMoon
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You need jump ball iirc
Phillips455
Member
Well, they did it for 1 steelbook, the fire emblem fates one. But it was written the opposite way every other game case had the text written.
I'm not a respectable speedrunner by any means, but in the back of my head I've been keeping an eye on possible sequence breaks (non-glitch ones anyway).
If you look at Super Metroid, there was an element of verticality that could be heavily exploited with the infinite wall jump and other techniques. Here, because you get the Spider morph ball so soon, I feel like those vertical sequence breaking exploits are no longer as viable. Because the devs have factored in your ability to climb various walls, essentially as high as you want in a lot of circumstances.
I'm assuming the bizarrely prevalent fans and air currents will have an exploit. I tried a few times to set up some kind of bypass by positioning the bomb just enough to see if I can blow up the obstacles from the opposite side, but so far no luck.
No Varia Suit while speedrunning through certain high-temp sections is an obvious possibility, but honestly you get the Varia Suit so painlessly that you might as well just go for it.
The most likely exploit is probably going to be bypassing the Metroids altogether and somehow activating the various elevators without hunting them all down.
I do feel, at least so far, that the level design is a bit less interconnected than Super Metroid, and more potential sequence-breaks have been considered and mitigated by MercurySteam. We'll see when people really start breaking the game down, though.
The Main Event
Member
Just got the Varia suit too. Was getting a bit disappointed with the low-key ambient soundtrack but the Norfair track just kicked in and I'm in euphoria. Sooo good.
CloudyTuba
Member
I'm amused to discover that in a few instances so far, the devs have taken precautions to stop me from abusing bomb jumping too badly. They knew.
Not always though.
Not always though.
Shift Breaker
Member
The amount of times I've infinite bomb jumped to a place where the Spider Ball won't let you go only to find a door that's locked I can count on more than one hand. There might be an exploit here or there I've yet to see, but as it stands this game is definitely closer to Fusion on the linearity spectrum than Zero Mission or Super Metroid.
Still fun, though.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Damn. I forgot how much I loved bomb jumping. <3
entremet
Member
I had no issues. I did do in-store pick up, though.
Green Mamba
Member
Area 4 complete, just dipped my toes into Area 5. I really liked how different Area 4 was from 3. A good change of pace--Area 3 has few upgrades but a ton of Metroids, while Area 4 has few Metroids but it's split into two levels with more upgrades to find. First Zeta Metroid leveled me in no time.
And I really wish I had paid attention to the Grapple Beam description when you first get it--I didn't realize it automatically switched to the Grapple Beam if you aim at a Grapple point, I've been manually switching this whole time...
And I really wish I had paid attention to the Grapple Beam description when you first get it--I didn't realize it automatically switched to the Grapple Beam if you aim at a Grapple point, I've been manually switching this whole time...
Inspectah_Deck
Member
removed due to piracy concerns
TheMoon
Member
change up encounter environment, make player switch up tactics.
piracy essentially. I'd delete that...
might as well link game ROMs.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
This is a save editor, has nothing to do with piracy.
TheMoon
Member
to enable content only accessible via amiibo which is a purchase-lock for content.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Incredibly impressed with this game. Definitely not breaking the Metroid mold, but it's a very comfy experience, and the new touches to the combat feel ace.
Yea, I'm getting my butt kicked. I may not even try Fusion Mode lol
Well I am liking this quite a bit. Currently working my way through Area 2, and damn this place is big, and sounds like Area 3 is even bigger heh. This game seems to be structure and linear in a sense that you are going area to area, defeating the amount of metroid in each area to access the next (unless this changes up later on), and I like the concept of going deeper and deeper into the planet.
I finished it today in 10.5 hours gametime, and then 100% it an hour later. I thought it was excellent, with only a few minor issues that mostly stem from the original game. The difficulty was just right but maybe a bit extreme in places, although the QOL updates like the boss checkpoints mean that you can learn the patterns quickly and keep frustration from building. I didn't think the one of the new bosses telegraphed it's attacks very well, but apart from that the combat was great.
I was initially disappointed that they went with 3D instead of 2D sprites, but it wasn't long before the interesting, diverse backgrounds won me over. I'd love for this team to have the chance to make a new original entry on the Switch.
Is there any detailed information about Hard and Fusion mode? Are there any unlockables tied to completion time?
I was initially disappointed that they went with 3D instead of 2D sprites, but it wasn't long before the interesting, diverse backgrounds won me over. I'd love for this team to have the chance to make a new original entry on the Switch.
Is there any detailed information about Hard and Fusion mode? Are there any unlockables tied to completion time?
forknknife
Banned
The OG 3DS battery life is atrocious ugh
Retro Edge
Member
Man, the 3D mode is really good. Feels so deep specially when the camera turns around.
But I'm probably the only one who still likes 3DS games in 3D here. ^^
I always play them at least in the lowest setting cause it looks sharper.
But I'm probably the only one who still likes 3DS games in 3D here. ^^
I always play them at least in the lowest setting cause it looks sharper.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
You are not alone.
Game looks incredible with 3D crancked all the way up and stays easy on the eyes.
Best 3D implementation since ALBW.
For all the people with sore hands, I can´t recommend enough the Cyber Gadget grips:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013JDH8J0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OTEMTD4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have the one for the XL and it transforms the handheld into a proper controller.
Do these work with the Original 3DS/XL?
Inspectah_Deck
Member
There are older revisions for O3DS/XL:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008ZXBYJU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0051SODKO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Don´t know how good the O3DS one is, but the XL one is nice.
You think that's bad? One Finnish retailer is selling the Amiibos for 47 each and the Legacy Edition for 145.
Meh too expensive now.
I spent my evening playing this game and finally finishing AM2R, and the more I play the 3DS version the less I like it. The game doesn't have the claustrophobic feel of the original and all the environments feel similar, as well as the enemies.
It doesn't feel like Metroid 2 at all and I wish they would have rebranded the game and called it something else.
It doesn't feel like Metroid 2 at all and I wish they would have rebranded the game and called it something else.
TheMoon
Member
as usual, you unlock hard mode after beating it.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
N3DS 3d is great. OG 3d is garbage.
Yeah, the lack of sprites is my biggest disappointment with this game. The claustrophobia and general sense of darkness are just gone.
BottleFlip
Banned
That price for the regular sized new 3ds is insane. I found an alternative for a lot less if anyone is interested.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WU8EEAC/?tag=neogaf0e-20
3DS might just have the worst control setup of any Nintendo product.
I'm having no troubles with this at all, but my hands are still cramping due to the L/R buttons. Those things have never been very ergonomic for me, and this game requires them a lot.
LQX
Member
Yeah, I wont stop playing.
drangleic tourism
Member
So, the Samus edition new 3DS is really slick. It actually didn't look that great in the promo pics, but up close it really is a nice looking piece of work. Metroid console + Metroid theme + Samus Returns...I'm very happy right now!