Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You'll want to use a guide for the Chico tapes. They can be hard to find and are spread out across missions.
MGSV: Ground Zeroes - Spoilers Thread - #TeamBowie
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You'll want to use a guide for the Chico tapes. They can be hard to find and are spread out across missions.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I felt pretty bad for Paz
Yeah especially when your collecting all the tapes. I was hoping we could save her but alas.
You know a lot of peole are asking about why we never see the medic's face but I thought it was pretty simple to me, they probably hadn't modeled his face properly or simply chose not to show him because he's not important. If you notice all of the Mother Base staff where masks so as to prevent the team from having to model a unique face for every single individual. I feel like not showing the medic's face was just another way of not having to do more work as it would have probably looked weird to have a medic wearing a balaclava inside the helicopter.
In short, medic isn't important just as all the other background Mother Base staff isn't important.
In short, medic isn't important just as all the other background Mother Base staff isn't important.
Alcoholikaust
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where exactly was theI felt pretty bad for Paz
second bomb?
is this a weird play on Hideo's "Snatcher"?
is this a weird play on Hideo's "Snatcher"?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
You know where the bomb was.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
How do I put the classic Snake skin on?
Just finished all side ops, played Deja Vu like a maniac and got all the scenes recreated, 2 kills, no alarms, all in 10 mins with an S and it felt so good.
Have spent about 10 hrs on it already and still about 35% done.
And yea, poor Paz... Also, you really do know where the bomb was, that perv Koji >.<
Have spent about 10 hrs on it already and still about 35% done.
And yea, poor Paz... Also, you really do know where the bomb was, that perv Koji >.<
Razgriz-Specter
Member
At mission select, on DejaVu arrow over left or right.
So, anyone getting the vibe that Kaz and Skull Face are playing right into Zero's hand? I always thought it was odd that Kaz is portrayed as more extreme than Big Boss (to the point of alienation, maybe) in Phantom Pain but, from Zero's perspective, this is just the sort of situation that might make Snake reconsider his path. Maybe the Diamond duo find (via Ocelot?) that Zero fed false info to Skull Face that he was responsible for that character's origin story. Kaz puts aside his grudge and resigns from the business in light of what he's done for nothing. Then Zero's bridges with BB are really burned forever.
KittenMaster
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I said something along these lines (except I said they probably just didn't want to do facial mocap, but not wanting to model makes sense too) and I was brushed off. People are definitely looking too deep into things, I think. Same with the "third person" in the Phantom Pain trailer.
It was in her other stomach.
Rogue Agent
Banned
Hmm... but isn't it a goal with MGSV to capture faces to give every npc a unique face? Would have thought that would extend to your Motherbase Personnel seeing as they'll be such a big part of Phantom Pain.
monocle_wearing_hyrax
Neo Member
Isn't there a way to turn audio data into a picture? Maybe something like that.
I doubt they are gonna spend the resources to do it for every npc, just look at the attack on MB cut scene there are just way too many people in that cut-scene to model and facial capture every NPC. It's way easier to just put a mask on them and move on especially when they aren't important and will only be seen for two seconds.
Sort of OT but Donna Burke is amazing live performing Heavens Divide. I wonder if she will to TPP's theme live sometime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijGBLv-wiZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijGBLv-wiZc
Rogue Agent
Banned
If you compare the GDC trailer and the game itself nothing has been changed in the scenes in terms of injuries on Snake's model and his dry sneaking suit. Only that missing scene has them, and there's nothing to really connect in either version except for after the bomb has gone off.You know what I just realized, this scene from the MGSV trailer isn't present in GZ, I guess he cut it or chose to show Snake looking out at a different angle.
I don't think this was cut, I think we'll see this in the Phantom Pain's opening. As to why it wouldn't have been included in Ground Zeroes when it's 1975, this is just a theory but it's been confirmed that Kyle Cooper is back for this game who did the title sequence for Se7en and MGS2 & 3.
In some tv shows and movies they have what is called a cold open, it's usually something that happened before the real story begins and it ends with something dramatic (in this case, Snake blacking out and falling into his coma) just before the title sequence. Then after the title sequence, it would follow on 9 years later with him waking from the coma. They did something similar when they ended the Virtuous Mission with the nuke going off before the Snake Eater opening played, but in this case Ground Zeroes isn't seamlessly integrated into The Phantom Pain so maybe they needed to cut to black early for that reason.
If I'm right I don't know how Kojima will explain the chopper being in one piece after that cliffhanger, but then it is Kojima. Nanomachines, son.
I keep checking back to see if anyone's done this yet. Surely it has to mean something?
AuthenticM
Member
In her uterus.
Problem is that BB is supposed to be in a coma following the helicopter crash so that scene can't take place after the GZ mission.
On another note, I may be coming around more to the idea that Huey could be a spy/traitor for XOF. I mean there is that reference by Skullface and then there is teh fact that according to Kaz, Huey stated "I've got bigger problems to worry about" after Strangelove left. Maybe Skullface has something on Huey?
Dark Octave
Banned
Just finished it today. So was Paz trying to tell Snake that they put the other bomb in her vagina?
Edit: Just read above. God damn...
I need to play Peace Walker now.
Edit: Just read above. God damn...
I need to play Peace Walker now.
Callibretto
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well as far as big boss and kaz concerned, they're probably the last survivor of the motherbase attck, so when later in Phantom Pain they found out Huey is still alive and well, they might start be suspicious of Huey.
Horrible what happened to Paz but she was dead already, apparently only having 24 hours to live. What a shame, I really wanted to see her in PP. As for Chico given he caused much of the mess to begin with BB should have him thrown into the Caribbean along with the remnants of Mother Base.
I'm convinced Huey is the spy given what Skullface said, along with him being conveniently gone missing once MB is overrun by XOF. The mechanical prostethics seen in the PP trailer could have been his reward for betraying Big Boss and MSF.
AuthenticM
Member
In one of the tapes, Skullface mentions "the scientist" as being his inside man...
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Whether or not Huey is the spy, he was the direct cause of this just by going against Big Boss and Kaz and allowing the inspection.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Any chance to see Big Boss recruiting the bosses from Metal Gear Solid in TPP or thats way ahead of the original Metal Gear? Would be cool to see him meeting Sniper Wolf and the other guys and having them as allies
Snake doesn't seem like he knows the Shadow Moses-era Fox Hound members, and he was with them long after Big Boss left. They were probably hired by Liquid.
I do like the idea of seeing the Fox Hound members in earlier days.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Big Boss definitely knew Sniper Wolf though. She joined sometime after his death though.
Any chance to see Big Boss recruiting the bosses from Metal Gear Solid in TPP or thats way ahead of the original Metal Gear? Would be cool to see him meeting Sniper Wolf and the other guys and having them as allies
Well, from other trailers, it looks like a young Mantis will at least be in the game.
Wolf will probably be too young at this point (I think she'd only be about 4 or 5 in TPP if I'm not mistaken?)
Raven is probably unlikely; he doesn't join Big Boss until after Boris Yeltsin's coup in 1993.
Liquid is obviously Eli.
We already know Ocelot is in.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Hmm you're right. It kind of blows my mind to think of the "Big Boss" they are talking about in MGS1 as the same character in 3, PW and V.
He's a kid tho'.
Don't they all call themselves the "Sons of Big Boss"? We know for sure that Liquid (obviously) and Sniper Wolf have a connection, and now we've seen that Psycho Mantis is in Phantom Pain. It'd make sense to "introduce" them in some way in Phantom Pain.
I'm still really, really hopeful that Chico is Decoy Octopus. That would be too awesome.
I'm sure your thread-shitting makes your mother proud.
I went back and watched the Phantom Pain's original trailer and it makes more sense now.
XOF is attacking the hospital to kill Big Boss and Psycho Mantis(Cipher?) is trying to stop them.
(The reverse could also be true. Cipher trying to kill Big Boss and XOF trying to save him for some reason)
Mantis' motives can be questioned up until the end of the trailer where we see an XOF soldier about to kill Snake, then Mantis floats over the soldier.
We know Snake escaped the hospital, so obviously mantis took over the soldiers mind and stopped him.
God, I can't wait for TPP.
It's the only possible explanation. Guessing the chopper is an XOF one and he takes it down via telekinesis. Don't know if the whale is 'actually' there though, might be in BB's mind.
I'd wager that all the crazy shit you see in the hospital is Mantis' doing. Including Volgin.
XOF is attacking the hospital to kill Big Boss and Psycho Mantis(Cipher?) is trying to stop them.
(The reverse could also be true. Cipher trying to kill Big Boss and XOF trying to save him for some reason)
Mantis' motives can be questioned up until the end of the trailer where we see an XOF soldier about to kill Snake, then Mantis floats over the soldier.
We know Snake escaped the hospital, so obviously mantis took over the soldiers mind and stopped him.
God, I can't wait for TPP.
It's the only possible explanation. Guessing the chopper is an XOF one and he takes it down via telekinesis. Don't know if the whale is 'actually' there though, might be in BB's mind.
I'd wager that all the crazy shit you see in the hospital is Mantis' doing. Including Volgin.
So the giant fire whale is Mantis' doing?
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Sometimes I say silly things too.
Point is, this "60 minute game" has generated a lot of speculation and discussion.
I can't imagine it being anything else, honestly. The supernatural stuff in Metal Gear almost always has some kind of explanation (in a "this guy was doing it with his powers" kind of way) - considering all the crazy shit starts happening after Mantis shows himself for the first time I'd imagine that's what happened.
If Kojima shits in a bucket and posts a picture, we'd be here speculating.
That all makes sense besides a conjuring of Volgin. If Mantis is there to help BB, why bring in a major baddie from his past?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Not quite. Huey wanted a UN nuclear inspection because it would give MSF more international street cred. In the context of that tape I believe Skullface was merely saying that he was the one who bought the load of bull hook, line, and sinker. In the actual I don't think he uses the word "inside man" but something more like "we was our way in". Inside man suggests deliberate collusion which hasn't been proved yet.
Of course, according to the Phantom Pain trailer, both Miller and Ocelot DO believe he was working under the table for XOF.
To scare him away from going down a corridor full of XOF soldiers perhaps. Maybe Mantis was luring BB away from danger.
The same reason The Boss' horse is there and why Volgin is riding the horse.
Mantis is in Big Boss' mind as well, he probably had to dive into his mind to be sure it was him. I guess a side effect of this is that the things Mantis is seeing (Volgin, The Boss' horse) are being projected.
Yeah, that's exactly what he's trying to do.
Is this all operating under the assumption that Ishmael isn't an illusion? Because Ishmael is the one who leads Snake to the elevator. Wouldn't make much sense for a Mantis illusion to lead him to another Mantis illusion designed to scare him in another direction.
I also don't understand why Mantis would use explosive force like he did to steer Snake. The guy is out of a coma for minutes and you knock him on his ass with an explosion? Doesn't seem like the way to go if you're trying to help.
The Silver
Member
He's a kid tho'.
Dumb ass thought this was a shounen anime where he can do the impossible save the girl with the power of love, not today Chico.
I don't think Mantis is the delicate type.
Ishmael could be Big Boss' psyche. If you get what I mean, it's a visual representation of what he's thinking. 'Ishmael' leads him to the elevator because Big Boss chose to go to the elevator as he couldn't walk.
Mantis could have used explosive force as the corridor was about to be swarmed with XOF soldiers and he wanted to buy Snake some time.
But doesn't Ismael give BB an injection to help him walk? A mere hallucination of some kind wouldn't have been able to do this?